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On March 31 2012 10:26 hydrogg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:03 Goldfish wrote:SC2 fried my graphic cards' - Internet Cafe bosses and gamers uproar This is true and it was one of the first bugs in the game. There is no FPS cap on the menu (this was after release, I remember reading it on battle.net forums) and if you leave the game on overnight, it will probably fry your video card (since it's running everything at the max due to no FPS cap). Blizzard quickly patched it though but it was present in the release version of SC2. Now of course they did try to use that issue to scare people away from SC2 but that was an issue with SC2 in the past. @The KeSPA article - The reason why they did that was because: 1. It all started with Blizzard wanting KeSPA to switch to SC2 (and pay fees). 2. KeSPA didn't want this. 3. Basically it's tug of war between Blizzard is wrong vs KeSPA is wrong (of course it ended now after the lawsuit ended last year). Anyway Blizzard did want KeSPA to switch to SC2 or pay fees regarding BW. In Mr. Chae interview, Mr. Chae stated once HotS is released, all tournaments has to switch to the game regardless of balance. That's the same deal with KeSPA and BW apparently. KeSPA of course is now apparently switching to SC2 because: 1. Blizzard wants them to (maybe providing incentives that weren't there in the past). 2. And because the potential of more money (which is why last page I stated they'll probably welcome foreigners). They already have an official channel setup for foreigners (they're trying to obtain official English casters as well apparently). Before the lawsuit, KeSPA + Blizzard got along or were at least neutral (when SC2 was first announced, they even got Dustin Browder to go there and do interviews with them and they all seemed to get along). Didn't Blizzard state at Blizzcon that tournaments could stick with WOL and didn't have to switch to HOTS?
Well I'm not sure then, maybe that only applies to smaller tournaments?
At least for the GSL, Mr. Chae says GSL has to switch right away:
Q:Once HotS comes out, are we switching straight away or waiting for a while?
A: We will switch once the ongoing league is finished. The rules say we must use the latest version but we can’t switch mid-league.
Not sure if this applies to MLG or other tournaments but at least we know for sure it applies to GSL.
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On March 31 2012 10:29 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:26 hydrogg wrote:On March 31 2012 10:03 Goldfish wrote:SC2 fried my graphic cards' - Internet Cafe bosses and gamers uproar This is true and it was one of the first bugs in the game. There is no FPS cap on the menu (this was after release, I remember reading it on battle.net forums) and if you leave the game on overnight, it will probably fry your video card (since it's running everything at the max due to no FPS cap). Blizzard quickly patched it though but it was present in the release version of SC2. Now of course they did try to use that issue to scare people away from SC2 but that was an issue with SC2 in the past. @The KeSPA article - The reason why they did that was because: 1. It all started with Blizzard wanting KeSPA to switch to SC2 (and pay fees). 2. KeSPA didn't want this. 3. Basically it's tug of war between Blizzard is wrong vs KeSPA is wrong (of course it ended now after the lawsuit ended last year). Anyway Blizzard did want KeSPA to switch to SC2 or pay fees regarding BW. In Mr. Chae interview, Mr. Chae stated once HotS is released, all tournaments has to switch to the game regardless of balance. That's the same deal with KeSPA and BW apparently. KeSPA of course is now apparently switching to SC2 because: 1. Blizzard wants them to (maybe providing incentives that weren't there in the past). 2. And because the potential of more money (which is why last page I stated they'll probably welcome foreigners). They already have an official channel setup for foreigners (they're trying to obtain official English casters as well apparently). Before the lawsuit, KeSPA + Blizzard got along or were at least neutral (when SC2 was first announced, they even got Dustin Browder to go there and do interviews with them and they all seemed to get along). Didn't Blizzard state at Blizzcon that tournaments could stick with WOL and didn't have to switch to HOTS? Well I'm not sure then, maybe that only applies to smaller tournaments? At least for the GSL, Mr. Chae says GSL has to switch right away: Show nested quote + Q:Once HotS comes out, are we switching straight away or waiting for a while?
A: We will switch once the ongoing league is finished. The rules say we must use the latest version but we can’t switch mid-league. Not sure if this applies to MLG or other tournaments but at least we know for sure it applies to GSL.
thats probably a specific part only for Gom since Blizzard gave them exclusive broadcasting rights and would want Gom to switch to HoTS since if they staed on WoL everyone would stay on WoL
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Hopefully the Federation will be better than Kespa was.
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Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?).
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On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?).
from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable
the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join
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On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join
It depends. If EG and Dignitas or another conglomerate esports team join, then it could be a gateway to sort of organize an communitcation channel between teams, tournaments and sponors across multiple games.
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On March 31 2012 11:18 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join It depends. If EG and Dignitas or another conglomerate esports team join, then it could be a gateway to sort of organize an communitcation channel between teams, tournaments and sponors across multiple games.
what happened to E-Mail...?
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I wrote an article years ago (mid 2009) about the plausibility of a governing body for eSports. I'm not going paste the whole article, but I'll summarize some of the points from it:
Games
Organizations that are running events and tournaments tend to support different types of games all over the place, leading to some very popular eSport games, and some niche ones as well. A governing body and the organizations that enlist to be regulated can establish a base set of games that they may support, and must seek approval for any future eSport games.
This can be expanded much further with potential developer support, and a contractual basis that allows gamers some stability in having their specific game supported for a certain time frame. I could go on...
Scheduling
We all know how much we hate big tournaments going on at the same time. Not only does that reflect badly on each event, as they are losing viewers to one another, but it also suck for the fan, because one person cannot simply take in all the available content and information going on in a weekend.
A governing body would do well to keep organizations and their events separate, and have a proper calendar setup to avoid such conflicts. An added bonus would be the due diligence in keeping apprised of international events, holidays, and even extending so far as to be wary of potential players and their university/college commitments like exams.
Universality
In this notion, universality encompasses the aforementioned (stipulations surrounding games and scheduling), as well as developing the necessary rules, regulations that govern maps used in certain games, tournament formats, and other factors.
It can be extended to statistical analysis, specifications on broadcasting, and an instituted formula to achieve a proper player/team rankings throughout the year from all the events supported by the governing body. The aspect of universality and a proper number of organizations enlisted within the governing body will also lend more credibility for the interest of potential sponsors as well.
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The main issue with a governing body, and what I ended up concluding, was that it was implausible and impractical. Each business and organization involved in eSports is out for their individual gain, profit, and expansion. While positive in many areas, a governing body is more likely to collectively diminish their potential and that will be the crux of their disapproval in enlisting. As much as we'd like to think that organizations can put those issues aside and do it for the "good of eSports," it's not something I personally see happening.
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On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join
http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=F
I see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses.
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On March 31 2012 12:11 shannn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=FI see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses.
oh sorry i didnt know, so what sort of salary do they make and where can i go watch KeSPA sponsored CS events?
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On March 31 2012 12:13 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 12:11 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=FI see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses. oh sorry i didnt know, so what sort of salary do they make and where can i go watch KeSPA sponsored CS events?
It doesn't say they're broadcasting or sponsoring CS events. I'm merely pointing out that they recognize CS as an official e-sports title in which you can have attain a progaming license. <--- Does not mean KeSPA automatically runs/sponsors these e-sports titles.
Pretty sure I read from an old thread somewhere that progaming license means paying less taxes ~3% iirc in total winnings.
Not sure how much you pay without said license.
Hoping someone could link me that thread :p
On March 31 2012 12:24 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 12:19 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 12:13 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:11 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=FI see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses. oh sorry i didnt know, so what sort of salary do they make and where can i go watch KeSPA sponsored CS events? It doesn't say they're broadcasting or sponsoring CS events. I'm merely pointing out that they recognize CS as an official e-sports title in which you can have attain a progaming license. <--- Does not mean KeSPA automatically runs/sponsors these e-sports titles. oh, so they say "oh ya thats an esport" then dont actually do anything to in any way support or assist it in being an E-Sport? so in other words they only treat BW as an e-sport and let every other game pretend to be one?
Not entirely.
I clearly remember they broadcasted Sudden Attack and Kart Rider games in the Old Boy series. So it's not just BW.
Probably more (someone will have to verify this).
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On March 31 2012 12:19 shannn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 12:13 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:11 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=FI see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses. oh sorry i didnt know, so what sort of salary do they make and where can i go watch KeSPA sponsored CS events? It doesn't say they're broadcasting or sponsoring CS events. I'm merely pointing out that they recognize CS as an official e-sports title in which you can have attain a progaming license. <--- Does not mean KeSPA automatically runs/sponsors these e-sports titles.
oh, so they say "oh ya thats an esport" then dont actually do anything to in any way support or assist it in being an E-Sport? so in other words they only treat BW as an e-sport and let every other game pretend to be one?
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On March 31 2012 12:24 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 12:19 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 12:13 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:11 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=FI see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses. oh sorry i didnt know, so what sort of salary do they make and where can i go watch KeSPA sponsored CS events? It doesn't say they're broadcasting or sponsoring CS events. I'm merely pointing out that they recognize CS as an official e-sports title in which you can have attain a progaming license. <--- Does not mean KeSPA automatically runs/sponsors these e-sports titles. oh, so they say "oh ya thats an esport" then dont actually do anything to in any way support or assist it in being an E-Sport? so in other words they only treat BW as an e-sport and let every other game pretend to be one?
Sounds like eSports-Federation to me. (Making starcraft only esports)
Anyway kespa probably didnt supported it cause it wasnt popular to begin with. Right now they're having proleague for SF(clone of CS) and BW. They also support LoL
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On March 31 2012 12:24 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 12:19 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 12:13 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:11 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=FI see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses. oh sorry i didnt know, so what sort of salary do they make and where can i go watch KeSPA sponsored CS events? It doesn't say they're broadcasting or sponsoring CS events. I'm merely pointing out that they recognize CS as an official e-sports title in which you can have attain a progaming license. <--- Does not mean KeSPA automatically runs/sponsors these e-sports titles. oh, so they say "oh ya thats an esport" then dont actually do anything to in any way support or assist it in being an E-Sport? so in other words they only treat BW as an e-sport and let every other game pretend to be one?
Up until recently BW was the only game you could consider a sport.
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On March 31 2012 12:30 jidolboy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 12:24 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:19 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 12:13 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:11 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=FI see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses. oh sorry i didnt know, so what sort of salary do they make and where can i go watch KeSPA sponsored CS events? It doesn't say they're broadcasting or sponsoring CS events. I'm merely pointing out that they recognize CS as an official e-sports title in which you can have attain a progaming license. <--- Does not mean KeSPA automatically runs/sponsors these e-sports titles. oh, so they say "oh ya thats an esport" then dont actually do anything to in any way support or assist it in being an E-Sport? so in other words they only treat BW as an e-sport and let every other game pretend to be one? Sounds like eSports-Federation to me. Anyway kespa probably didnt supported it cause it wasnt popular to begin with. Right now they're having proleague for SF(clone of CS) and BW
the esports federation isnt being made to make and sponsor events, KeSPA was
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On March 31 2012 12:31 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 12:30 jidolboy wrote:On March 31 2012 12:24 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:19 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 12:13 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:11 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=FI see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses. oh sorry i didnt know, so what sort of salary do they make and where can i go watch KeSPA sponsored CS events? It doesn't say they're broadcasting or sponsoring CS events. I'm merely pointing out that they recognize CS as an official e-sports title in which you can have attain a progaming license. <--- Does not mean KeSPA automatically runs/sponsors these e-sports titles. oh, so they say "oh ya thats an esport" then dont actually do anything to in any way support or assist it in being an E-Sport? so in other words they only treat BW as an e-sport and let every other game pretend to be one? Sounds like eSports-Federation to me. Anyway kespa probably didnt supported it cause it wasnt popular to begin with. Right now they're having proleague for SF(clone of CS) and BW the esports federation isnt being made to make and sponsor events, KeSPA was
Then what is this New Federation supposed to do?
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On March 31 2012 12:33 jidolboy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 12:31 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:30 jidolboy wrote:On March 31 2012 12:24 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:19 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 12:13 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 12:11 shannn wrote:On March 31 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:On March 31 2012 10:56 domane wrote:
Hmm. Calling themselves "e-sports Federation" even though they are only involved in SC2. Then again, I think KeSPA is only involved in BW and counterstrike (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
It leaves some room for potential growth and sounds more international (thus implying greater prestige?). from what i heard KeSPA wasnt involved in CS and only bothered with BW since they thought it was profitable the federation is really only a way for teams to be able to negotiate with KeSPA so i doubt non-SC2 teams will join http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/Eng/esports_intro_20_f.kea?m_code=espor_20&item_key=FI see CS and many other games that are recognized by KeSPA for the semi/progamer licenses. oh sorry i didnt know, so what sort of salary do they make and where can i go watch KeSPA sponsored CS events? It doesn't say they're broadcasting or sponsoring CS events. I'm merely pointing out that they recognize CS as an official e-sports title in which you can have attain a progaming license. <--- Does not mean KeSPA automatically runs/sponsors these e-sports titles. oh, so they say "oh ya thats an esport" then dont actually do anything to in any way support or assist it in being an E-Sport? so in other words they only treat BW as an e-sport and let every other game pretend to be one? Sounds like eSports-Federation to me. Anyway kespa probably didnt supported it cause it wasnt popular to begin with. Right now they're having proleague for SF(clone of CS) and BW the esports federation isnt being made to make and sponsor events, KeSPA was Then what is this New Federation supposed to do?
work to rpevent KeSPa from bullying everyone by acting as the united voice of the current SC2 teams i think
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everyone who is worried that kespa has any power at all doesn't really understand the law or patenting first of all just because kespa runs a few tounaments and things like that as soon as they get on blizzards nerves there will be a court case which blizzard would win for 2 reasons. 1. blizzard has so much money and power kespa if a fuckin fly to them that wont fuckin die. 2. this is intelectual property that belongs to blizzard as soon as blizzard says you cant use it they have to stop or risk being raped for every1 penny they ever owned. In other words when blizzard wants to put KESPA in its place they will and they wont have any resistance either money can do amazing things lol and too bad for KESPA they'll be broke the minute blizzard wants it to happen.
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On March 31 2012 15:28 RIPJAWS wrote:
everyone who is worried that kespa has any power at all doesn't really understand the law or patenting first of all just because kespa runs a few tounaments and things like that as soon as they get on blizzards nerves there will be a court case which blizzard would win for 2 reasons. 1. blizzard has so much money and power kespa if a fuckin fly to them that wont fuckin die. 2. this is intelectual property that belongs to blizzard as soon as blizzard says you cant use it they have to stop or risk being raped for every1 penny they ever owned.
they treid that with SC and failed miserably
the onyl way Blizz has control over KesPA is cause Kespa has to hold there tournaments on Bnet and blizz has it set up so anyone who wants to do taht has to ask permission
if SC2 had lan then KeSPA wouldnt do anything blizz siads
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On March 31 2012 15:31 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 15:28 RIPJAWS wrote:
everyone who is worried that kespa has any power at all doesn't really understand the law or patenting first of all just because kespa runs a few tounaments and things like that as soon as they get on blizzards nerves there will be a court case which blizzard would win for 2 reasons. 1. blizzard has so much money and power kespa if a fuckin fly to them that wont fuckin die. 2. this is intelectual property that belongs to blizzard as soon as blizzard says you cant use it they have to stop or risk being raped for every1 penny they ever owned. they treid that with SC and failed miserably the onyl way Blizz has control over KesPA is cause Kespa has to hold there tournaments on Bnet and blizz has it set up so anyone who wants to do taht has to ask permission if SC2 had lan then KeSPA wouldnt do anything blizz siads
i was actually honestly not aware of that but dont u think the fact that its blizzards intelectual property and the fact that its copyrighted would mean that KESPA wont be able to use it unless blizz says so because in the end you are streaming content to a large amount of people significant enough that it would matter in a court and they are making money off of it so i think with those 2 things it might mean that they would lose the case if it ever happened
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