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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 00:43:39
March 31 2012 00:32 GMT
#421
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.





Wow...
for every person defending KeSPA...there seems to be 10 articles written to the contrary.
I am not liking where this is going...

I hope Plexa can respond to this article...seems like very damning evidence against KeSPA.
(i.e. you can see the citations from the photo)

The links still work...I can't read korean though...
http://news.nate.com/view/20100721n09605
moo...for DRG
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
March 31 2012 00:39 GMT
#422
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.



Did YOU even read it?
What makes you hate them so much? That post contained Blizz vs Kespa situation and kespa's strict rules. Not killing SC2 to make BW live longer.
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 31 2012 00:45 GMT
#423
On March 31 2012 09:39 jidolboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.



Did YOU even read it?
What makes you hate them so much? That post contained Blizz vs Kespa situation and kespa's strict rules. Not killing SC2 to make BW live longer.


Perhaps you can read this article...
http://news.nate.com/view/20100721n09605

Google translate is terrible but it seems to say that KeSPA was not in favor of SC2.
moo...for DRG
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
March 31 2012 00:45 GMT
#424
On March 31 2012 09:39 jidolboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.



Did YOU even read it?
What makes you hate them so much? That post contained Blizz vs Kespa situation and kespa's strict rules. Not killing SC2 to make BW live longer.

Actually a'lot of that was in there... but i'm not going to go out of my way and quote for you because you clearly failed to inform your self before you posted.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 31 2012 00:47 GMT
#425
On March 31 2012 09:39 jidolboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.



Did YOU even read it?
What makes you hate them so much? That post contained Blizz vs Kespa situation and kespa's strict rules. Not killing SC2 to make BW live longer.

relevant parts
28. After SC2 released, KeSPA did not allow SC players to touch the game.

32. KeSPA pays online media/journalism organisations to start making articles dissing SC2.

(lists of SC2 hating articles and funny part is the reporter/journalist is the same dude)
*Blizzard, 'Pressuring' Korea with its 'SC2' release up coming.
*[GAME] - Dissapointing reviews of SC2's early stages
*Blizzard says 'We must Destroy SC1 for SC2 to live!
*'Warning' SC2, Your computer may break down.
*'SC2 fried my graphic cards' - Internet Cafe bosses and gamers uproar
*Where has the fame of SC2 gone? After 4 weeks of sales... (they compared to food getting cold)
*NaDa Lee, Yun-Yeol moving to SC2. Once an honored gamer, now a prize money hunter.
*SC2's popularity down the sink. How Deep?

43. As soon as NaDa moved to the SC2 scene, KeSPA had 'Deleted' NaDa's database. Later they re-uploaded it due to the fan's anger and they replied back as a 'Glitch' in the system.

38. Players like NaDa and SlayerS_BoxeR were treated as 'traitors' for leaving SC contracts
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
March 31 2012 00:49 GMT
#426
On March 31 2012 09:45 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:39 jidolboy wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.



Did YOU even read it?
What makes you hate them so much? That post contained Blizz vs Kespa situation and kespa's strict rules. Not killing SC2 to make BW live longer.


Perhaps you can read this article...
http://news.nate.com/view/20100721n09605

Google translate is terrible but it seems to say that KeSPA was not in favor of SC2.


I can't believe I'm the one saying this, but that article is actually about KeSPA-biased unfounded claim about how Blizzard wants BW scene to die in order to make SC2 a success.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 00:52:48
March 31 2012 00:51 GMT
#427
To all the smart people in this thread, who has been with been following bw for atleast a few years before sc2 was released, you probably know how crazy Kespa can be, so I have a question for you:

Do you think that, if Kespa takes over sc2, like with bw and every other esport in Korea, that they'd still let gsl be running as another tournament in Korea? Or gom be involved at all?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 31 2012 00:54 GMT
#428
On March 31 2012 09:51 MadNeSs wrote:
To all the smart people in this thread, who has been with been following bw for atleast a few years before sc2 was released, you probably know how crazy Kespa can be, so I have a question for you:

Do you think that, if Kespa takes over sc2, like with bw and every other esport in Korea, that they'd still let gsl be running as another tournament in Korea? Or gom be involved at all?

they dont really have a choice in the matter, they have no way to shut down Gom and Gom is Blizzards favourite horse, they try to shut down Gom and Blizz shuts them down

this isnt like SC2, no matter how powerful KeSPA gets blizz can flip a switch and they cant paly SC2
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 00:57:08
March 31 2012 00:56 GMT
#429
Even so, I cant help but feeling that once Kespa get involved, things will change alot... Hopefully for the better.
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
March 31 2012 00:56 GMT
#430
On March 31 2012 09:47 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:39 jidolboy wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.



Did YOU even read it?
What makes you hate them so much? That post contained Blizz vs Kespa situation and kespa's strict rules. Not killing SC2 to make BW live longer.

relevant parts
Show nested quote +
28. After SC2 released, KeSPA did not allow SC players to touch the game.

Show nested quote +
32. KeSPA pays online media/journalism organisations to start making articles dissing SC2.

(lists of SC2 hating articles and funny part is the reporter/journalist is the same dude)
*Blizzard, 'Pressuring' Korea with its 'SC2' release up coming.
*[GAME] - Dissapointing reviews of SC2's early stages
*Blizzard says 'We must Destroy SC1 for SC2 to live!
*'Warning' SC2, Your computer may break down.
*'SC2 fried my graphic cards' - Internet Cafe bosses and gamers uproar
*Where has the fame of SC2 gone? After 4 weeks of sales... (they compared to food getting cold)
*NaDa Lee, Yun-Yeol moving to SC2. Once an honored gamer, now a prize money hunter.
*SC2's popularity down the sink. How Deep?

Show nested quote +
43. As soon as NaDa moved to the SC2 scene, KeSPA had 'Deleted' NaDa's database. Later they re-uploaded it due to the fan's anger and they replied back as a 'Glitch' in the system.

Show nested quote +
38. Players like NaDa and SlayerS_BoxeR were treated as 'traitors' for leaving SC contracts


I dont get it. Were all of those articles paid by kespa? Because some of them were true.
If they did then why did you think they did all of those? Tell me.
Blizz sued Kespa for an IP right thingy that they couldnt even explain.
If the case never happend then this would have never happend.
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
March 31 2012 00:57 GMT
#431
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.




This is an excellent ammunition against those ignorant KeSPA supporters.

Many thanks mate.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
March 31 2012 00:58 GMT
#432
On March 31 2012 09:56 jidolboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:47 Forikorder wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:39 jidolboy wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.



Did YOU even read it?
What makes you hate them so much? That post contained Blizz vs Kespa situation and kespa's strict rules. Not killing SC2 to make BW live longer.

relevant parts
28. After SC2 released, KeSPA did not allow SC players to touch the game.

32. KeSPA pays online media/journalism organisations to start making articles dissing SC2.

(lists of SC2 hating articles and funny part is the reporter/journalist is the same dude)
*Blizzard, 'Pressuring' Korea with its 'SC2' release up coming.
*[GAME] - Dissapointing reviews of SC2's early stages
*Blizzard says 'We must Destroy SC1 for SC2 to live!
*'Warning' SC2, Your computer may break down.
*'SC2 fried my graphic cards' - Internet Cafe bosses and gamers uproar
*Where has the fame of SC2 gone? After 4 weeks of sales... (they compared to food getting cold)
*NaDa Lee, Yun-Yeol moving to SC2. Once an honored gamer, now a prize money hunter.
*SC2's popularity down the sink. How Deep?

43. As soon as NaDa moved to the SC2 scene, KeSPA had 'Deleted' NaDa's database. Later they re-uploaded it due to the fan's anger and they replied back as a 'Glitch' in the system.

38. Players like NaDa and SlayerS_BoxeR were treated as 'traitors' for leaving SC contracts


I dont get it. Were all of those articles paid by kespa? Because some of them were true.
If they did then why did you think they did all of those? Tell me.
Blizz sued Kespa for an IP right thingy that they couldnt even explain.
If the case never happend then this would have never happend.


Blizzards case was pretty simple and they were going to win. You cant sell broadcasting rights to something that isnt yours to sell.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 31 2012 00:58 GMT
#433
On March 31 2012 09:56 jidolboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:47 Forikorder wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:39 jidolboy wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:22 FidoDido wrote:
I think this thread need to be brought back to shed some light on people who don't know much about KESPA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895

I can't believe people actually support KESPA... if it were up to me. I would never give them any rights to broadcast SC2 for what they have done to SC2 in it's early stages, they basically tried to kill it off in an attempt to cripple the SC2 scene so the BW scene would strive a bit longer.



Did YOU even read it?
What makes you hate them so much? That post contained Blizz vs Kespa situation and kespa's strict rules. Not killing SC2 to make BW live longer.

relevant parts
28. After SC2 released, KeSPA did not allow SC players to touch the game.

32. KeSPA pays online media/journalism organisations to start making articles dissing SC2.

(lists of SC2 hating articles and funny part is the reporter/journalist is the same dude)
*Blizzard, 'Pressuring' Korea with its 'SC2' release up coming.
*[GAME] - Dissapointing reviews of SC2's early stages
*Blizzard says 'We must Destroy SC1 for SC2 to live!
*'Warning' SC2, Your computer may break down.
*'SC2 fried my graphic cards' - Internet Cafe bosses and gamers uproar
*Where has the fame of SC2 gone? After 4 weeks of sales... (they compared to food getting cold)
*NaDa Lee, Yun-Yeol moving to SC2. Once an honored gamer, now a prize money hunter.
*SC2's popularity down the sink. How Deep?

43. As soon as NaDa moved to the SC2 scene, KeSPA had 'Deleted' NaDa's database. Later they re-uploaded it due to the fan's anger and they replied back as a 'Glitch' in the system.

38. Players like NaDa and SlayerS_BoxeR were treated as 'traitors' for leaving SC contracts


I dont get it. Were all of those articles paid by kespa? Because some of them were true.
If they did then why did you think they did all of those? Tell me.
Blizz sued Kespa for an IP right thingy that they couldnt even explain.
If the case never happend then this would have never happend.

none of those were true, SC2 had great reviews from the get go, and if anyone tried pressuring it was KeSPA when they tried to slap a mature label on SC2, SC2 is one of the most computer firendly games so theres no way it would cause a computer to break down or fry and SC2 didnt go down in popularity after 4 weeks it only went up

and how is insulting NaDa by calling him jsut a prize money hunter true?
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 01:03:15
March 31 2012 01:01 GMT
#434
On March 31 2012 09:56 jidolboy wrote:
I dont get it. Were all of those articles paid by kespa? Because some of them were true.
If they did then why did you think they did all of those? Tell me.
Blizz sued Kespa for an IP right thingy that they couldnt even explain.
If the case never happend then this would have never happend.


It's pretty much confirmed by industry insiders, and yes, some of them are true, but they were greatly exaggerated, and some of them even pulled faked statistics.
And the reason why they pulled this BS was because they wanted to milk the BW scene to the last drop.
And SC franchise belongs to Blizzard, period.
You can't sell related content without permission from the creators themselves, it's simple as that, basic copyright 101.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 01:10:36
March 31 2012 01:03 GMT
#435
SC2 fried my graphic cards' - Internet Cafe bosses and gamers uproar


This is true and it was one of the first bugs in the game. There is no FPS cap on the menu (this was after release, I remember reading it on battle.net forums) and if you leave the game on overnight, it will probably fry your video card (since it's running everything at the max due to no FPS cap). Blizzard quickly patched it though but it was present in the release version of SC2. Now of course they did try to use that issue to scare people away from SC2 but that was an issue with SC2 in the past.

@The KeSPA article - The reason why they did that was because:

1. It all started with Blizzard wanting KeSPA to switch to SC2 (and pay fees).

2. KeSPA didn't want this.

3. Basically it's tug of war between Blizzard is wrong vs KeSPA is wrong (of course it ended now after the lawsuit ended last year).

Anyway Blizzard did want KeSPA to switch to SC2 or pay fees regarding BW. In Mr. Chae interview, Mr. Chae stated once HotS is released, all tournaments has to switch to the game regardless of balance. That's the same deal with KeSPA and BW apparently.

KeSPA of course is now apparently switching to SC2 because:

1. Blizzard wants them to (maybe providing incentives that weren't there in the past).

2. And because the potential of more money (which is why last page I stated they'll probably welcome foreigners). They already have an official channel setup for foreigners (they're trying to obtain official English casters as well apparently).

Before the lawsuit, KeSPA + Blizzard got along or were at least neutral (when SC2 was first announced, they even got Dustin Browder to go there and do interviews with them and they all seemed to get along).
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 31 2012 01:07 GMT
#436

Ah ha, I was wondering how long it would take somebody to actually post that thread. Once again, that is only one thread and super biased. The responses are actually much better in it than the actual steam let off by the Korean.

That is only but one thread.

On March 31 2012 09:51 MadNeSs wrote:
To all the smart people in this thread, who has been with been following bw for atleast a few years before sc2 was released, you probably know how crazy Kespa can be, so I have a question for you:

Do you think that, if Kespa takes over sc2, like with bw and every other esport in Korea, that they'd still let gsl be running as another tournament in Korea? Or gom be involved at all?


It really depends on how they do the scheduling. Considering MBC is out of the hunt I don't see it being an issue. There's not much too speculate. Just have to wait and see what happens.
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
March 31 2012 01:18 GMT
#437
I feel the emergence of this organization will create segregation among the Korean SC2 community once kespa makes the switch to SC2. I'm not too familiar with the politics, but I think it will be interesting for competition. As many have already pointed out, the potential of having 2 different individual leagues and perhaps even 2 different team leagues promotes competition between the two organizations and will probably fuel the growth of SC2 in korea. As a spectator, I feel that the esports federation represents the current SC2 players, while kespa will represent the current BW players after they transition into SC2 (assuming this transition is inevitable). The thought of current SC2 players playing against former BW players is definitely something I look forward to seeing, especially in team leagues. It may even put an end to the whole "elephant in the room"
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 31 2012 01:20 GMT
#438
Nah, it won't. The elephant in the room will never go away. That article by Intrigue will always get bumped.
hydrogg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States377 Posts
March 31 2012 01:26 GMT
#439
On March 31 2012 10:03 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
SC2 fried my graphic cards' - Internet Cafe bosses and gamers uproar


This is true and it was one of the first bugs in the game. There is no FPS cap on the menu (this was after release, I remember reading it on battle.net forums) and if you leave the game on overnight, it will probably fry your video card (since it's running everything at the max due to no FPS cap). Blizzard quickly patched it though but it was present in the release version of SC2. Now of course they did try to use that issue to scare people away from SC2 but that was an issue with SC2 in the past.

@The KeSPA article - The reason why they did that was because:

1. It all started with Blizzard wanting KeSPA to switch to SC2 (and pay fees).

2. KeSPA didn't want this.

3. Basically it's tug of war between Blizzard is wrong vs KeSPA is wrong (of course it ended now after the lawsuit ended last year).

Anyway Blizzard did want KeSPA to switch to SC2 or pay fees regarding BW. In Mr. Chae interview, Mr. Chae stated once HotS is released, all tournaments has to switch to the game regardless of balance. That's the same deal with KeSPA and BW apparently.

KeSPA of course is now apparently switching to SC2 because:

1. Blizzard wants them to (maybe providing incentives that weren't there in the past).

2. And because the potential of more money (which is why last page I stated they'll probably welcome foreigners). They already have an official channel setup for foreigners (they're trying to obtain official English casters as well apparently).

Before the lawsuit, KeSPA + Blizzard got along or were at least neutral (when SC2 was first announced, they even got Dustin Browder to go there and do interviews with them and they all seemed to get along).


Didn't Blizzard state at Blizzcon that tournaments could stick with WOL and didn't have to switch to HOTS?
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
March 31 2012 01:27 GMT
#440
On March 31 2012 10:26 hydrogg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:03 Goldfish wrote:
SC2 fried my graphic cards' - Internet Cafe bosses and gamers uproar


This is true and it was one of the first bugs in the game. There is no FPS cap on the menu (this was after release, I remember reading it on battle.net forums) and if you leave the game on overnight, it will probably fry your video card (since it's running everything at the max due to no FPS cap). Blizzard quickly patched it though but it was present in the release version of SC2. Now of course they did try to use that issue to scare people away from SC2 but that was an issue with SC2 in the past.

@The KeSPA article - The reason why they did that was because:

1. It all started with Blizzard wanting KeSPA to switch to SC2 (and pay fees).

2. KeSPA didn't want this.

3. Basically it's tug of war between Blizzard is wrong vs KeSPA is wrong (of course it ended now after the lawsuit ended last year).

Anyway Blizzard did want KeSPA to switch to SC2 or pay fees regarding BW. In Mr. Chae interview, Mr. Chae stated once HotS is released, all tournaments has to switch to the game regardless of balance. That's the same deal with KeSPA and BW apparently.

KeSPA of course is now apparently switching to SC2 because:

1. Blizzard wants them to (maybe providing incentives that weren't there in the past).

2. And because the potential of more money (which is why last page I stated they'll probably welcome foreigners). They already have an official channel setup for foreigners (they're trying to obtain official English casters as well apparently).

Before the lawsuit, KeSPA + Blizzard got along or were at least neutral (when SC2 was first announced, they even got Dustin Browder to go there and do interviews with them and they all seemed to get along).


Didn't Blizzard state at Blizzcon that tournaments could stick with WOL and didn't have to switch to HOTS?


Yes, you're correct.
It's in the freaking FAQ on the official site.
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