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Knock off the SC2 vs BW vs LoL vs whatever crap please.
KoreanFisherman
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 11:08:07
March 25 2012 11:03 GMT
#621
u gotta see what will happen
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KoreanFisherman
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 11:19:00
March 25 2012 11:07 GMT
#622
Ojahh// only 3 former A-teamers in BW among who switched to sc2. u newbies lol

forgg started in AUGUST and hyun started in NOVEMBER so u gotta still watch, but IMMvp who switched earier was for sure dominating for long time in sc2(not now though but he can come back anytime) July and Nada are old schools and had no chance in BW recently

yeah it is true that 99% of korean sc2 players from bw were B-teamers in BW
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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
March 25 2012 11:13 GMT
#623
I doubt many BW pros will even switch over... depends on their situation outside of starcraft.
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Smileforyouandme
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany11 Posts
March 25 2012 11:15 GMT
#624
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
March 25 2012 11:21 GMT
#625
is it too farfetched to hope bw pros boycott sc2 until blizzard promises the return of spinning buildings? i dont care for viking flower...spinning buildings and stuff were my favorite part of the game.
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NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
March 25 2012 11:22 GMT
#626
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
March 25 2012 11:25 GMT
#627
On March 25 2012 20:22 NeonFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.


Starcraft 2 "purists" are as annoying as brood war ones
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Marddox
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom108 Posts
March 25 2012 11:26 GMT
#628
On March 25 2012 15:23 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 15:22 IoDefault wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:18 lottopk wrote:
Its inevitable. Everything must progress and bw is getting old.

User was warned for this post


So why was he warned for that?


Because Sc2 is not a progression of BW, it's just completely different, and happens to be in the same genre.

'progress' to sc2 would really just be change for the sake of change.


sc2 is a progression of BW in terms of lore, graphics and gameplay (last one is my opinion).
We didn't have no "4 gates" back in the probe drought, no sir! we only had 1 gate, chrono and probes to defend!
KoreanFisherman
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 11:28:57
March 25 2012 11:26 GMT
#629
In my opinion, SC2 is better game for playing, but I think it is true and the reality that there are nobody that are better than Korean top BW pros

even current sc2 korean pros should practice hard all day, if they don't want to be catched by those monsters, but still sc2 is easier for everybody, so there not might be that huge gap as in BW and I don't think Flash will easily get more than 80% of win ratio in sc2
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 11:31:17
March 25 2012 11:29 GMT
#630
On March 25 2012 20:22 NeonFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.


i mean, logically, bw has more potential for the better player to shine. and i'm certain, without proof, that majority of long time players, casual/enthusiasts and pros alike will side with "bw is better" or "sc2 needs improvement".
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SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 11:40:22
March 25 2012 11:39 GMT
#631
On March 25 2012 20:29 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 20:22 NeonFox wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.


i mean, logically, bw has more potential for the better player to shine. and i'm certain, without proof, that majority of long time players, casual/enthusiasts and pros alike will side with "bw is better"


You're out of your mind if you believe that both BW/War 3 weren't nearly dead in Europe and USA before Sc2 release.
Competition wise, no one were playing the game anymore, and each year, fewer were watching (until 2007 and the announcement of Starcraft 2).

The problem with Starcraft 2 is that we compare this imbalanced 1.5 year old game with no expansion to an over 10 year game which is perfectly balanced and has all his expansions out.
The dishonesty in such a comparison is really sad.

It's glaringly obvious that with new expansion units such as the viper, and new tech such as easily accessible mass recall, HOTS will be far more interesting to watch than Starcraft 2 vanilla, and will be far more skill intensive...
This is actually the point of expansions, correcting the defaults of the original.

If you want to compare Starcraft 2 to something, compare the state of Starcraft 2 to Starcraft 1 vanilla, 1 year after its release.

Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
lottopk
Profile Joined February 2012
Korea (North)33 Posts
March 25 2012 11:56 GMT
#632
On March 25 2012 20:39 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 20:29 jinorazi wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:22 NeonFox wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.


i mean, logically, bw has more potential for the better player to shine. and i'm certain, without proof, that majority of long time players, casual/enthusiasts and pros alike will side with "bw is better"


You're out of your mind if you believe that both BW/War 3 weren't nearly dead in Europe and USA before Sc2 release.
Competition wise, no one were playing the game anymore, and each year, fewer were watching (until 2007 and the announcement of Starcraft 2).

The problem with Starcraft 2 is that we compare this imbalanced 1.5 year old game with no expansion to an over 10 year game which is perfectly balanced and has all his expansions out.
The dishonesty in such a comparison is really sad.

It's glaringly obvious that with new expansion units such as the viper, and new tech such as easily accessible mass recall, HOTS will be far more interesting to watch than Starcraft 2 vanilla, and will be far more skill intensive...
This is actually the point of expansions, correcting the defaults of the original.

If you want to compare Starcraft 2 to something, compare the state of Starcraft 2 to Starcraft 1 vanilla, 1 year after its release.



Nailed it.

P.S kinda disappointed how couple of moderators took part in this thread.
For the Emporor
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
March 25 2012 12:11 GMT
#633
Well, I'm glad that the "unsubstantiated" part of the OP was removed and not certain yet. I haven't watched much BW in the past two years, but I hope it can continue on to some degree since there are still such talented players and dedicated fans. It'd be a shame if the BW scene ended while there's still such passion behind it -- thankfully that doesn't seem to be happening yet.

I also think this is good for SC2 -- Korea is still producing the best SC2 players, and having another tournament, with possibly some new blood in the player pool, should help it develop and push the current skill level higher. I also think Gom needs some competition -- the GSL is definitely the best and most prestigious tournament in the world imo, but some things that Gom does still seems kind of odd. Some poor maps staying in the pool, terrible stream quality and GomPlayer being fussy (to be fair, I'm on a Mac, which Gom basically ignored until a few months ago -- PC is probably smoother).

Interested to see how this works out -- I know you can never make everyone happy, but keeping my fingers crossed that they can work something out that doesn't piss off either BW or SC2 fan bases.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
March 25 2012 12:16 GMT
#634
On March 25 2012 20:22 NeonFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.

The issue with sc2 people even attempting to compare the games is as follows: The absolute vast majority of sc2 people have never actually played bw, and the absolute vast majority of bw people have played sc2. I don't think proponents of sc2 actually understand how fundamentally stupid it is to attempt to make objective judgements on something that you don't know anything about. Compare it to this: I've never played racquetball or squash, but I've played badminton and tennis extensively. Now I go around telling everyone I know that "badminton is actually a better game than both racquetball and squash, because it's so much nicer to watch and easier to play, even though i've never played squash" I'd be the laughingstock of the entire place, and justly.

I 100% guarantee you that amongst people who have played both games (I'm not talking about downloading bw and playing 2 games vs the ai like most sc2 people did to attempt to add credibility, I'm talking about actual players who've played a lot in an attempt to improve and understand the game) the consensus is that bw is a far better and more satisfying game. It's not even a debate amongst these people, which is why threads like these are so frustrating.

In addition, there's so much pressure on the bw community to "switch and join this century lolololol," where there's absolutely no pressure in the reverse direction. I have no idea why everyone thinks that bw needs to die in order for sc2 to succeed, if sc2 can prove itself as a viable and long lasting esport, then cool let it exist. Speaking as someone who vastly prefers watching brood war to sc2, even though I still watch both, there's a huge double standard in that respect. BW players and fans would be completely satisfied to just have their game continue to exist and thrive in korea, and I'm incredibly sad to see this movement on kespa's part to include sc2 in proleague. Let both people have their fun for crying out loud, and don't force sc2 on people who don't want it!

I can't think of any other way to speak about this inherent double standard when the two scenes of sc2 and bw collide.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
March 25 2012 12:31 GMT
#635
On March 25 2012 20:25 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 20:22 NeonFox wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.


Starcraft 2 "purists" are as annoying as brood war ones

There's nothing about SC2 that makes it spawn purists the way BW does.
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
March 25 2012 12:32 GMT
#636
Well that's exciting. More StarCraft is good for everybody.

Glad the unsubstantiated part that was causing a frenzy got removed from the OP.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
March 25 2012 12:35 GMT
#637
On March 25 2012 21:31 howLiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 20:25 Linwelin wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:22 NeonFox wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.


Starcraft 2 "purists" are as annoying as brood war ones

There's nothing about SC2 that makes it spawn purists the way BW does.


lolol old game switch to new century shiny graphics lolol
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
March 25 2012 12:35 GMT
#638
On March 25 2012 21:31 howLiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 20:25 Linwelin wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:22 NeonFox wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.


Starcraft 2 "purists" are as annoying as brood war ones

There's nothing about SC2 that makes it spawn purists the way BW does.


Of course not. It's the sequel. It's the new thing, not the old thing, it can't have purists. When HotS is out there can be WoL purists, and when StarCraft 3 comes out there can be SC2 purists, but currently there is no such thing as an SC2 purist. Heh. Admittedly I prefer SC2 to Brood War both as a player and as a spectator, and I find the back and forth bickering about which game is better to be frustrating. I respect BW as a good game, it's just not my game, not sure why some other people can't do the same. Conversely I'm not sure why some people can't seem to accept that SC2 is a great game as well but it's just not their game like BW is. *shrug*
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
March 25 2012 12:36 GMT
#639
On March 25 2012 21:35 MVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 21:31 howLiN wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:25 Linwelin wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:22 NeonFox wrote:
On March 25 2012 20:15 Smileforyouandme wrote:
hmm just one more weirdo idea, just coming up while reading tons of posts here... maybe kespa programmers create scbw game with better graphics out of sc2...i know theres that mod floating around yet, but i am sure that kespa dudes could do much much more with some funding etc... would make everyone happy? the sc2 guys get their graphics and the better skilldisplaying mechanics... further: idra finally can win games :-D


Why do people keep bringing up stuff like this. It's not about graphics or whatnot, Brood War is not a "better game" than Sc2 for everyone out there.

Brood war "purists" are so incredibly annoying when all they can say is how BW is such a better game, accept the fact that some people don't agree with you, and (oh the blasphemy!) some even think Sc2 is better.


Starcraft 2 "purists" are as annoying as brood war ones

There's nothing about SC2 that makes it spawn purists the way BW does.


Of course not. It's the sequel. It's the new thing, not the old thing, it can't have purists. When HotS is out there can be WoL purists, and when StarCraft 3 comes out there can be SC2 purists, but currently there is no such thing as an SC2 purist. Heh. Admittedly I prefer SC2 to Brood War both as a player and as a spectator, and I find the back and forth bickering about which game is better to be frustrating. I respect BW as a good game, it's just not my game, not sure why some other people can't do the same. Conversely I'm not sure why some people can't seem to accept that SC2 is a great game as well but it's just not their game like BW is. *shrug*


Okay i shouldn't have used the word purist. Let me change it to fanboys
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
March 25 2012 12:40 GMT
#640
On March 25 2012 20:13 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
I doubt many BW pros will even switch over... depends on their situation outside of starcraft.


Yeah it would be interesting what they would do for living.
But most of them have no education at all, so they are pretty much forced to stay ProGamers
or atleast stay in the business.
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