EPTI would watch a BW proleague (and I am).
I'm not watching a mix.
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Knock off the SC2 vs BW vs LoL vs whatever crap please. | ||
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thezanursic
5478 Posts
I would watch a BW proleague (and I am). I'm not watching a mix. | ||
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thezanursic
5478 Posts
On March 25 2012 20:25 Linwelin wrote: Starcraft 2 "purists" are as annoying as brood war ones Any kind of fanatics or purists are annoying if not worse. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On March 25 2012 21:31 howLiN wrote: There's nothing about SC2 that makes it spawn purists the way BW does. You should check out the LoL is number 1 in korea thread. It's hilarious. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On March 25 2012 21:44 ShadeR wrote: You should check out the LoL is number 1 in korea thread. It's hilarious. I was laughing the whole way through. Seeing the SC2 Elitists on full display was a glorious sight. | ||
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archonOOid
1983 Posts
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On March 25 2012 21:35 Linwelin wrote: lolol old game switch to new century shiny graphics lolol That's not a purist. You know what "purist" means? | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On March 25 2012 21:16 HyperionDreamer wrote: The issue with sc2 people even attempting to compare the games is as follows: The absolute vast majority of sc2 people have never actually played bw, and the absolute vast majority of bw people have played sc2. I don't think proponents of sc2 actually understand how fundamentally stupid it is to attempt to make objective judgements on something that you don't know anything about. Compare it to this: I've never played racquetball or squash, but I've played badminton and tennis extensively. Now I go around telling everyone I know that "badminton is actually a better game than both racquetball and squash, because it's so much nicer to watch and easier to play, even though i've never played squash" I'd be the laughingstock of the entire place, and justly. I 100% guarantee you that amongst people who have played both games (I'm not talking about downloading bw and playing 2 games vs the ai like most sc2 people did to attempt to add credibility, I'm talking about actual players who've played a lot in an attempt to improve and understand the game) the consensus is that bw is a far better and more satisfying game. It's not even a debate amongst these people, which is why threads like these are so frustrating. In addition, there's so much pressure on the bw community to "switch and join this century lolololol," where there's absolutely no pressure in the reverse direction. I have no idea why everyone thinks that bw needs to die in order for sc2 to succeed, if sc2 can prove itself as a viable and long lasting esport, then cool let it exist. Speaking as someone who vastly prefers watching brood war to sc2, even though I still watch both, there's a huge double standard in that respect. BW players and fans would be completely satisfied to just have their game continue to exist and thrive in korea, and I'm incredibly sad to see this movement on kespa's part to include sc2 in proleague. Let both people have their fun for crying out loud, and don't force sc2 on people who don't want it! I can't think of any other way to speak about this inherent double standard when the two scenes of sc2 and bw collide. You have to be careful now. Is BW a more satisfying game to watch or to play? Personally, SC2 is a far more satisfying game to play than BW is since I'm not a pro player (~master's and was C level in BW). Also, SC2 with good English commentary (GOM) is actually more satisfying to watch for me than the average ProLeague game in BW. However, I would watch BW ProLeague over SC2 ProLeague simply because there's so much more history with the BW players that I could identify with. I disagree that there's a double-standard here. | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On March 25 2012 22:36 howLiN wrote: That's not a purist. You know what "purist" means? Read my other post Or are "purists" your only problem and not fanboys | ||
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ChiXoo
Germany37 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
It seems like the best of both worlds and a good way to start transitioning all the teams over to SC2. It lets Broodwar go out with more eyes on it than ever as SC2 fans will watch it and gain an appreciation for the game that started it all. The combined Proleague would also give people who never watched Broodwar a sense of who the super stars are before they make the transition. For all we know, the options on the table are Starcraft combined Proleague or simply just a Starcraft 2 Proleague and an abrupt end to Broodwar after OSL 2012. It seems quite clear that Broodwar is now struggling to get the sponsors required to keep going. Team 8 has no sponsors and OSL has no sponsors. A divided Starcraft scene is not good for business. Starcraft Proleague will be an opportunity to merge the viewer and fan bases into a more economically viable larger whole that can draw more sponsorships and keep the super stars from Broodwar employed. | ||
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MrMatt
Canada225 Posts
On March 25 2012 21:40 thezanursic wrote: I would watch a SC 2 proleague. I would watch a BW proleague (and I am). I'm not watching a mix. I agree with this. I think the problem with all this fighting is that it seems people think one should replace the other. If each draws enough fans I think both should be able to survive and keep going. I don't think players should be forced to play both games, but I don't mind if there is a proleague for sc2 and it is shown along with the bw one. | ||
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Marddox
United Kingdom108 Posts
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Sanz
150 Posts
those threads really are as annoying as the elephant in the room thing. It starts out exciting an then comes the arguments. I feel like im not interested anymore. This topic brings out the worst this community has to offer. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On March 25 2012 23:00 MrMatt wrote: I agree with this. I think the problem with all this fighting is that it seems people think one should replace the other. If each draws enough fans I think both should be able to survive and keep going. I don't think players should be forced to play both games, but I don't mind if there is a proleague for sc2 and it is shown along with the bw one. The problem is that the money isn't there to support both games as esports right now. Broodwar is hurting and SC2 is still weak in Korea. Only by combining the super stars and the fans will they be able to sell the larger combined audience to sponsors again. They have no choice. It would be great if Broodwar could last forever but it's simply running out of money. The way I see it, another season of Broodwar Proleague probably isn't possible. They are bleeding money. The combined Proleague seems to be their way to stretch out Broodwar as long as possible. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
If you're happy watching both leagues separately why aren't you happy watching both combined? I see people still don't get it. How about you try reading the actual thread before chiming in or at least understand the ramifications of such a league. As for the whole SC2 purists versus BW purists. The real issue is pure competition. Having two games affect the results of a tournament eschews the net results. They would be better off having showmatches or do a full switch. Some people are spewing out shit on which they know not of. Just like the guy up above me. | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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reki-
Netherlands327 Posts
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Ender985
Spain910 Posts
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On March 25 2012 23:10 StarStruck wrote: Having two games affect the results of a tournament eschews the net results. They would be better off having showmatches or do a full switch. Um, what? I never interpreted anything posted in this thread to suggest that BW and SC2 would be part of the same tournament. The original OP sounded like it was saying that there might be two parallel OGN tournaments, one for each. As for mashing them together into one tournament, I don't even know how you'd do that. | ||
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MegaFonzie
Australia1084 Posts
On March 25 2012 23:17 Lysenko wrote: Um, what? I never interpreted anything posted in this thread to suggest that BW and SC2 would be part of the same tournament. The original OP sounded like it was saying that there might be two parallel OGN tournaments, one for each. As for mashing them together into one tournament, I don't even know how you'd do that. It hasn't been posted in this thread, but this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323013 has talked all about it. It's only rumours at this point but apparently the 2 games being rotated in the odd and even sets is a high possibility | ||
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