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Mike Morhaime "SC2 Proleague will open this year" - Page 57

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peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
March 21 2012 07:33 GMT
#1121
Hope they dont charge big bucks to watch this...
the throws never bothered me anyway
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 21 2012 07:40 GMT
#1122
On March 21 2012 00:09 saritenite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 15:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I hope there will be a BW proleague too.

IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS


SCBW: Nostalgia League

If Blizzard would make BW a free download/disk with every purchase of SC2 HOTS, I see hope for both scenes.


Blizzard shouldn't even be that restrictive. Broodwar needs to go free2play.
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
March 21 2012 09:25 GMT
#1123
This is amazing, cannot wait to see this progress!!

I feel like a kid on the night before christmas
Kurbz
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia88 Posts
March 21 2012 09:39 GMT
#1124
Can't wait to see what happens, but will they be able to play at top teir sc1 and sc2 thou since there are only so many hours in a day
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
March 21 2012 16:21 GMT
#1125
On March 21 2012 16:40 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 00:09 saritenite wrote:
On March 17 2012 15:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I hope there will be a BW proleague too.

IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS


SCBW: Nostalgia League

If Blizzard would make BW a free download/disk with every purchase of SC2 HOTS, I see hope for both scenes.


Blizzard shouldn't even be that restrictive. Broodwar needs to go free2play.

Ideally with a microtransaction-based reskin store. I demand paper plane wraiths and cow ultralisks!
. . . nevermore
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50592 Posts
March 21 2012 16:22 GMT
#1126
On March 22 2012 01:21 QuothTheRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 16:40 Zzoram wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:09 saritenite wrote:
On March 17 2012 15:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I hope there will be a BW proleague too.

IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS


SCBW: Nostalgia League

If Blizzard would make BW a free download/disk with every purchase of SC2 HOTS, I see hope for both scenes.


Blizzard shouldn't even be that restrictive. Broodwar needs to go free2play.

Ideally with a microtransaction-based reskin store. I demand paper plane wraiths and cow ultralisks!


and cattlebruisers.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
March 21 2012 18:53 GMT
#1127
Hell... its about time.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
March 21 2012 19:00 GMT
#1128
Also capped zerglings and wheelchair riding dragoons.
Brood War is forever
An2quamaraN
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland379 Posts
March 21 2012 19:21 GMT
#1129
Am i dreaming...?

I don't want to know. I love this dream. Can't wait for it to develop...
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
March 22 2012 00:35 GMT
#1130
On March 21 2012 00:57 Lorch wrote:
As much as I wish BW could go on forever, I'd rather see this happen asap, if bw is the sacrifice we have to make to make sure LoL doesn't take over I'm willing to make it. The prime esport in korea shouldn't go from the most skilled game of all time to the shittiest casual magnet of all time, atleast sc2 is still one of the hardest games of all time.
As much as I'd rather not see kespa get involved in the sc2 scene and what not, sc2 needs a pro league and a OSL, and even more important korean sc2 needs flash, jaedong, bisu etc. pp.


That's such a strange set of priorities. The fact that OGN is already hosting a large LoL tournament must make you so mad.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 22 2012 00:40 GMT
#1131
On March 22 2012 01:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 01:21 QuothTheRaven wrote:
On March 21 2012 16:40 Zzoram wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:09 saritenite wrote:
On March 17 2012 15:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I hope there will be a BW proleague too.

IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS


SCBW: Nostalgia League

If Blizzard would make BW a free download/disk with every purchase of SC2 HOTS, I see hope for both scenes.


Blizzard shouldn't even be that restrictive. Broodwar needs to go free2play.

Ideally with a microtransaction-based reskin store. I demand paper plane wraiths and cow ultralisks!


and cattlebruisers.


and frigging sharks with lasers on their heads. Is that too much to ask?
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
March 22 2012 01:26 GMT
#1132
On March 22 2012 01:21 QuothTheRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 16:40 Zzoram wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:09 saritenite wrote:
On March 17 2012 15:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I hope there will be a BW proleague too.

IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS


SCBW: Nostalgia League

If Blizzard would make BW a free download/disk with every purchase of SC2 HOTS, I see hope for both scenes.


Blizzard shouldn't even be that restrictive. Broodwar needs to go free2play.

Ideally with a microtransaction-based reskin store. I demand paper plane wraiths and cow ultralisks!


Bisu-DT Skins. Vultures with Fantasy portraits, lings with Jaedong's face
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 10:40:33
March 22 2012 10:37 GMT
#1133
On March 19 2012 18:13 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:04 sheaRZerg wrote:
Just dont kill BW, Kespa...I suspect you will be sorry a few years from now if you do.


BW isn't what KeSPA cared about, its the revenue it could obtain. BW needs to be reinvigorated from the community stand point so viewership increases and KeSPA can responsibly allocate resources without risking peoples jobs and stuff. They have no fanboy loyalty.


Seriously. What?

There was a CJ fan here at TL a long time ago. Who would argue day in and day out that CJ is the most deserving among the PL teams. He was the epitome of BW Fanboyism.

Koreans have these kinds of fanboyism and fangirlism and much more rabid, much more cunning, much more .. .. .... Passionate. So, I don't know where you got the idea that KeSPA games didn't have Fanboy/girl Loyalty.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 22 2012 10:44 GMT
#1134
On March 22 2012 10:26 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 01:21 QuothTheRaven wrote:
On March 21 2012 16:40 Zzoram wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:09 saritenite wrote:
On March 17 2012 15:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I hope there will be a BW proleague too.

IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS


SCBW: Nostalgia League

If Blizzard would make BW a free download/disk with every purchase of SC2 HOTS, I see hope for both scenes.


Blizzard shouldn't even be that restrictive. Broodwar needs to go free2play.

Ideally with a microtransaction-based reskin store. I demand paper plane wraiths and cow ultralisks!


Bisu-DT Skins. Vultures with Fantasy portraits, lings with Jaedong's face

Dropships and Bunkers with BoxeR's face.
Carriers with Stork glasses.

And if you get 70+% winrate at the highest rank, you might get a Flash portrait.

In all seriousness, after seeing Moletrap and Torch cast LoL for OGN's English stream, I wouldn't be surprised if OGN decides to invest in English casters and an English stream for whatever SC2 venture they end up doing. SC2 outside of Korea is pretty big compared to it inside Korea, and an English SC2 stream would be much more viable than an English BW stream due to the difference in foreign fan numbers.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 10:57:14
March 22 2012 10:55 GMT
#1135
On March 22 2012 19:37 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:13 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On March 19 2012 18:04 sheaRZerg wrote:
Just dont kill BW, Kespa...I suspect you will be sorry a few years from now if you do.


BW isn't what KeSPA cared about, its the revenue it could obtain. BW needs to be reinvigorated from the community stand point so viewership increases and KeSPA can responsibly allocate resources without risking peoples jobs and stuff. They have no fanboy loyalty.


Seriously. What?

There was a CJ fan here at TL a long time ago. Who would argue day in and day out that CJ is the most deserving among the PL teams. He was the epitome of BW Fanboyism.

Koreans have these kinds of fanboyism and fangirlism and much more rabid, much more cunning, much more .. .. .... Passionate. So, I don't know where you got the idea that KeSPA games didn't have Fanboy/girl Loyalty.

Its not about favoring fanboyism per se, its about the fact that almost everyone is already accustomed to BW Korea. SC2 is way different than BW, i would not be suprised if Asian viewer count would drop severely even if ALL progamers switched. BW Jin Air OSL Finals got something about 9million viewers(not confirmed) from China, where BW is still going strong playerbase wise.

So in case of business, going into sc2 would be going for foreign western scene same as GOM move, but on a slightly bigger scale. There is no way that SC2 will bring more Asian viewers. It will be less daily product more niche-specific product so expect Blizzard/Razer/Hardware global manufacturers instead of ABC marts and Telecoms. Niche luxury product rather than almost "daily life" event.
Stork[gm]
KuKri
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany168 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 18:33:57
March 22 2012 18:33 GMT
#1136
This is probably true, SC2 seems to be quite unpopular in Asia. But, WHY is it unpopular? BW fans say, 'it takes not skill', but I've never read about any specific reason. To me it seems Blizzard has made a good job. It has a better interface, like automining and selecting as many units as you like, they copied the trademark units like marines, tanks, zealots etc. and replaced some with clever ideas that add excitement to the gameplay, e.g. banelings.
What should they have done better? Making workers NOT automine? That would require more apm, but the less apm you need, the more important your strategies become...
Anyway, I like watching Broodwar matches, and if it becomes f2p I'd give it a shot.

And, I'm happy to see new tournaments arising for SC2 in Korea.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5690 Posts
March 22 2012 18:55 GMT
#1137
On March 22 2012 19:37 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:13 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On March 19 2012 18:04 sheaRZerg wrote:
Just dont kill BW, Kespa...I suspect you will be sorry a few years from now if you do.


BW isn't what KeSPA cared about, its the revenue it could obtain. BW needs to be reinvigorated from the community stand point so viewership increases and KeSPA can responsibly allocate resources without risking peoples jobs and stuff. They have no fanboy loyalty.


Seriously. What?

There was a CJ fan here at TL a long time ago. Who would argue day in and day out that CJ is the most deserving among the PL teams. He was the epitome of BW Fanboyism.

Koreans have these kinds of fanboyism and fangirlism and much more rabid, much more cunning, much more .. .. .... Passionate. So, I don't know where you got the idea that KeSPA games didn't have Fanboy/girl Loyalty.


He meant that KeSPA did not care about BW out of fanboyism, but rather was there to benefit from it.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 19:00:18
March 22 2012 18:58 GMT
#1138
On March 23 2012 03:33 KuKri wrote:
This is probably true, SC2 seems to be quite unpopular in Asia. But, WHY is it unpopular? BW fans say, 'it takes not skill', but I've never read about any specific reason. To me it seems Blizzard has made a good job. It has a better interface, like automining and selecting as many units as you like, they copied the trademark units like marines, tanks, zealots etc. and replaced some with clever ideas that add excitement to the gameplay, e.g. banelings.
What should they have done better? Making workers NOT automine? That would require more apm, but the less apm you need, the more important your strategies become...
Anyway, I like watching Broodwar matches, and if it becomes f2p I'd give it a shot.

And, I'm happy to see new tournaments arising for SC2 in Korea.


It is free to play. Go on ICCUP or any other private server.


We've been saying the same shit over and over in this thread. I'm not going to write another list.

ffs people are lazy asses.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 22 2012 19:01 GMT
#1139
On March 22 2012 10:26 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 01:21 QuothTheRaven wrote:
On March 21 2012 16:40 Zzoram wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:09 saritenite wrote:
On March 17 2012 15:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I hope there will be a BW proleague too.

IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS


SCBW: Nostalgia League

If Blizzard would make BW a free download/disk with every purchase of SC2 HOTS, I see hope for both scenes.


Blizzard shouldn't even be that restrictive. Broodwar needs to go free2play.

Ideally with a microtransaction-based reskin store. I demand paper plane wraiths and cow ultralisks!


Bisu-DT Skins. Vultures with Fantasy portraits, lings with Jaedong's face


I think people have missed the most obvious:

HATS! Don't care what on, but HATS! I demand HATS!
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6260 Posts
March 22 2012 19:06 GMT
#1140
On March 23 2012 03:58 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 03:33 KuKri wrote:
This is probably true, SC2 seems to be quite unpopular in Asia. But, WHY is it unpopular? BW fans say, 'it takes not skill', but I've never read about any specific reason. To me it seems Blizzard has made a good job. It has a better interface, like automining and selecting as many units as you like, they copied the trademark units like marines, tanks, zealots etc. and replaced some with clever ideas that add excitement to the gameplay, e.g. banelings.
What should they have done better? Making workers NOT automine? That would require more apm, but the less apm you need, the more important your strategies become...
Anyway, I like watching Broodwar matches, and if it becomes f2p I'd give it a shot.

And, I'm happy to see new tournaments arising for SC2 in Korea.


It is free to play. Go on ICCUP or any other private server.


We've been saying the same shit over and over in this thread. I'm not going to write another list.

ffs people are lazy asses.


But someone who has never heard of sc bw before don't know it's f2p. So it becomming free could be a huge boost to their numbers in the foreign scene.
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