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On March 20 2012 07:17 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 04:53 MadNeSs wrote:On March 20 2012 03:44 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On March 20 2012 00:58 MadNeSs wrote:
I bet that once Gom's license runs out, then kespa will takeover sc2, and all sc2 will be shown on ogn, and all the bw teams will takeover, because they just have more money to pay the current top sc2 players with, than the current sc2 teams. And then it'll most likely be like bw was, where they dont care much about the foreigners. And then it'll just be like bw, where kespa rules anything, and foreigners wont have a chance to compete, and korean progaming will just purely be in Korea, just like it was with bw. However we might be lucky, that kespa will recognise that how much the foreign scene loves watching korean sc2, and maybe make an english stream, and maybe use tastosis (if possible) as caster, for a stream for foreigners.
You can only hope, because I truly think, that once gom's license runs out, things will change in Korea... Alot! Idk how it is in sc2, but as far as BW goes, the only thing holding back foreign BW was how hard everyone sucked in comparison And the fact that you needed a progamer license to compete, you dont need to in sc2. And they sucked in comparison because there was no foreign scene, hell even some of the biggest foreign tourneys, with some of the biggest foreigner names didnt even have any prize money, there just wasnt any foreign scene at all, unlike in sc2, where there's so many tourneys, outside of Korea. Now a days most bw foreigners, who are sc2 progamers, has made more in sc2 than they ever did in bw. The koreans where just so far ahead, they had a huge progaming scene, they had teams with huge sponsors, houses with training facilities, everybody got a salary (yeah some didnt get much, something like 5k and some probably less per year), but they also got food and a place to stay. So to be fair foreigners didnt just suck, but it's pretty hard in any sport for amatours to compete against fulltime professionals. In SC2 there is a foreigner scene, and a pretty big one. However the foreigners are still pretty far behind, except for Stephano, who is just so damn good, even though we have that I still think that things will change alot in Korea, once kespa takes over... I mean why else do they wanna switch to sc2 now that gom's license is soon to expire? Why not earlier? WC3 had a foreign scene comparable the current foreign Sc2 scene (with the size of esports then and now taken into account). Foreigners were invited to numerous tournaments over the years. They still failed for the most part. Hell, did you see the Moon vs. ToD game where Moon used Dark Ranger, stole ToD's Peasant and beat him with Human army?
are you fuckign serious now?
The "foreigners" in wc3 that went fulltime didnt fail. they were on top with the koreans and later chinese people.
Hell do you know that ToD had like the best record vs Moon from all the other players?.
sorry but saying people like Grubby ToD , Creo , Hot , Deadman , Madfrog , Heman and many more failed is just stupid...
but yeah they invite grubby and moon for a 10k showmatch because grubby is just a scrubby foreigner and this 2 didn thave the best rivalry.
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This is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge. I'm optimistic.
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While this is awesome news, I really hope that it doesn't interfere with GSL. What I mean by this is that I hope players don't have to choose between which tournament they participate in, and can simply go from one to the next, or do both simultaneously if they so choose, depending on how the tournaments are set up.
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Anyone else just go "LOL yea right mate whatever you say" I've been hearing the same old derp for around a year now.
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It's always great to see Blizzard getting involved in eSports. I hope this means SC2 will be played alongside BW.
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On March 20 2012 12:46 ShadeR wrote:
Anyone else just go "LOL yea right mate whatever you say" I've been hearing the same old derp for around a year now.
I wouldn't call the CEO of blizzard "same old derp".
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On March 20 2012 07:44 rasers wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 07:17 maybenexttime wrote:On March 20 2012 04:53 MadNeSs wrote:On March 20 2012 03:44 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On March 20 2012 00:58 MadNeSs wrote:
I bet that once Gom's license runs out, then kespa will takeover sc2, and all sc2 will be shown on ogn, and all the bw teams will takeover, because they just have more money to pay the current top sc2 players with, than the current sc2 teams. And then it'll most likely be like bw was, where they dont care much about the foreigners. And then it'll just be like bw, where kespa rules anything, and foreigners wont have a chance to compete, and korean progaming will just purely be in Korea, just like it was with bw. However we might be lucky, that kespa will recognise that how much the foreign scene loves watching korean sc2, and maybe make an english stream, and maybe use tastosis (if possible) as caster, for a stream for foreigners.
You can only hope, because I truly think, that once gom's license runs out, things will change in Korea... Alot! Idk how it is in sc2, but as far as BW goes, the only thing holding back foreign BW was how hard everyone sucked in comparison And the fact that you needed a progamer license to compete, you dont need to in sc2. And they sucked in comparison because there was no foreign scene, hell even some of the biggest foreign tourneys, with some of the biggest foreigner names didnt even have any prize money, there just wasnt any foreign scene at all, unlike in sc2, where there's so many tourneys, outside of Korea. Now a days most bw foreigners, who are sc2 progamers, has made more in sc2 than they ever did in bw. The koreans where just so far ahead, they had a huge progaming scene, they had teams with huge sponsors, houses with training facilities, everybody got a salary (yeah some didnt get much, something like 5k and some probably less per year), but they also got food and a place to stay. So to be fair foreigners didnt just suck, but it's pretty hard in any sport for amatours to compete against fulltime professionals. In SC2 there is a foreigner scene, and a pretty big one. However the foreigners are still pretty far behind, except for Stephano, who is just so damn good, even though we have that I still think that things will change alot in Korea, once kespa takes over... I mean why else do they wanna switch to sc2 now that gom's license is soon to expire? Why not earlier? WC3 had a foreign scene comparable the current foreign Sc2 scene (with the size of esports then and now taken into account). Foreigners were invited to numerous tournaments over the years. They still failed for the most part. Hell, did you see the Moon vs. ToD game where Moon used Dark Ranger, stole ToD's Peasant and beat him with Human army? are you fuckign serious now? The "foreigners" in wc3 that went fulltime didnt fail. they were on top with the koreans and later chinese people. Hell do you know that ToD had like the best record vs Moon from all the other players?. sorry but saying people like Grubby ToD , Creo , Hot , Deadman , Madfrog , Heman and many more failed is just stupid... but yeah they invite grubby and moon for a 10k showmatch because grubby is just a scrubby foreigner and this 2 didn thave the best rivalry.
Do you seriously know what you're taking about? I'm not talking about their overall records (ToD vs. Moon) or the later time, when Koreans pretty much dumped WC3 after the map scandal. During its prime, when WC3 had leagues like Prime League, Sonokong OGN WC3 league and Clan League, foreigners didn't achieve anything in particular. Even the posterboy MadFroG.
I'm not talking the WarCraft World War times... I'm not talking about Creo, Hot or Deadman, that's way past the Korean prime at WC3.
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On March 17 2012 19:11 Onlinejaguar wrote:
I just hope they realize the foreign popularity for SC2 and have english commentators for broadcasts.
On another note if the big guns such as Flash and Jaedong, etc switch to SC2 it will have a massive impact on SC2 becoming more popular in korea i think.
That and I have a feeling Hots will be similar to what brood war did to vanilla sc1. A combination of sc1 pros switching over and HoTs re-vitalizing sc2 could make sc2 huge in Korea and everywhere else.
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On March 20 2012 15:07 Spiner wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 19:11 Onlinejaguar wrote:
I just hope they realize the foreign popularity for SC2 and have english commentators for broadcasts.
On another note if the big guns such as Flash and Jaedong, etc switch to SC2 it will have a massive impact on SC2 becoming more popular in korea i think. That and I have a feeling Hots will be similar to what brood war did to vanilla sc1. A combination of sc1 pros switching over and HoTs re-vitalizing sc2 could make sc2 huge in Korea and everywhere else.
I think it comes down to what units they choose to keep in it, I'm a little worried about the Shredder and Protoss' new units. The shredder seems to have a lot of potential for abuse, whereas the new units for Protoss just feel very gimmicky. I hope I'm proven wrong, I don't want Zerg to get all the cool units, even though I play Zerg.
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On March 20 2012 16:13 Shrewmy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 15:07 Spiner wrote:On March 17 2012 19:11 Onlinejaguar wrote:
I just hope they realize the foreign popularity for SC2 and have english commentators for broadcasts.
On another note if the big guns such as Flash and Jaedong, etc switch to SC2 it will have a massive impact on SC2 becoming more popular in korea i think. That and I have a feeling Hots will be similar to what brood war did to vanilla sc1. A combination of sc1 pros switching over and HoTs re-vitalizing sc2 could make sc2 huge in Korea and everywhere else. I think it comes down to what units they choose to keep in it, I'm a little worried about the Shredder and Protoss' new units. The shredder seems to have a lot of potential for abuse, whereas the new units for Protoss just feel very gimmicky. I hope I'm proven wrong, I don't want Zerg to get all the cool units, even though I play Zerg.
This is a bit off topic but one of the main criticisms of SC2's is the ai pathing. That certainly isn't going to change in any patch of expansion.
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On March 20 2012 14:23 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 07:44 rasers wrote:On March 20 2012 07:17 maybenexttime wrote:On March 20 2012 04:53 MadNeSs wrote:On March 20 2012 03:44 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On March 20 2012 00:58 MadNeSs wrote:
I bet that once Gom's license runs out, then kespa will takeover sc2, and all sc2 will be shown on ogn, and all the bw teams will takeover, because they just have more money to pay the current top sc2 players with, than the current sc2 teams. And then it'll most likely be like bw was, where they dont care much about the foreigners. And then it'll just be like bw, where kespa rules anything, and foreigners wont have a chance to compete, and korean progaming will just purely be in Korea, just like it was with bw. However we might be lucky, that kespa will recognise that how much the foreign scene loves watching korean sc2, and maybe make an english stream, and maybe use tastosis (if possible) as caster, for a stream for foreigners.
You can only hope, because I truly think, that once gom's license runs out, things will change in Korea... Alot! Idk how it is in sc2, but as far as BW goes, the only thing holding back foreign BW was how hard everyone sucked in comparison And the fact that you needed a progamer license to compete, you dont need to in sc2. And they sucked in comparison because there was no foreign scene, hell even some of the biggest foreign tourneys, with some of the biggest foreigner names didnt even have any prize money, there just wasnt any foreign scene at all, unlike in sc2, where there's so many tourneys, outside of Korea. Now a days most bw foreigners, who are sc2 progamers, has made more in sc2 than they ever did in bw. The koreans where just so far ahead, they had a huge progaming scene, they had teams with huge sponsors, houses with training facilities, everybody got a salary (yeah some didnt get much, something like 5k and some probably less per year), but they also got food and a place to stay. So to be fair foreigners didnt just suck, but it's pretty hard in any sport for amatours to compete against fulltime professionals. In SC2 there is a foreigner scene, and a pretty big one. However the foreigners are still pretty far behind, except for Stephano, who is just so damn good, even though we have that I still think that things will change alot in Korea, once kespa takes over... I mean why else do they wanna switch to sc2 now that gom's license is soon to expire? Why not earlier? WC3 had a foreign scene comparable the current foreign Sc2 scene (with the size of esports then and now taken into account). Foreigners were invited to numerous tournaments over the years. They still failed for the most part. Hell, did you see the Moon vs. ToD game where Moon used Dark Ranger, stole ToD's Peasant and beat him with Human army? are you fuckign serious now? The "foreigners" in wc3 that went fulltime didnt fail. they were on top with the koreans and later chinese people. Hell do you know that ToD had like the best record vs Moon from all the other players?. sorry but saying people like Grubby ToD , Creo , Hot , Deadman , Madfrog , Heman and many more failed is just stupid... but yeah they invite grubby and moon for a 10k showmatch because grubby is just a scrubby foreigner and this 2 didn thave the best rivalry. Do you seriously know what you're taking about? I'm not talking about their overall records (ToD vs. Moon) or the later time, when Koreans pretty much dumped WC3 after the map scandal. During its prime, when WC3 had leagues like Prime League, Sonokong OGN WC3 league and Clan League, foreigners didn't achieve anything in particular. Even the posterboy MadFroG. I'm not talking the WarCraft World War times... I'm not talking about Creo, Hot or Deadman, that's way past the Korean prime at WC3.
Sky (if you're talking non-Koreans)/Grubby/ToD/MadFroG were all exceptional players better than most Koreans pre-scandal. Obviously Moon is Moon but Korean dominance in WC3 is nowhere near the level it was in BW or SC2.
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BIGGER PRIZE POOOOOOOOOOOLS (:
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On March 20 2012 14:23 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 07:44 rasers wrote:On March 20 2012 07:17 maybenexttime wrote:On March 20 2012 04:53 MadNeSs wrote:On March 20 2012 03:44 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On March 20 2012 00:58 MadNeSs wrote:
I bet that once Gom's license runs out, then kespa will takeover sc2, and all sc2 will be shown on ogn, and all the bw teams will takeover, because they just have more money to pay the current top sc2 players with, than the current sc2 teams. And then it'll most likely be like bw was, where they dont care much about the foreigners. And then it'll just be like bw, where kespa rules anything, and foreigners wont have a chance to compete, and korean progaming will just purely be in Korea, just like it was with bw. However we might be lucky, that kespa will recognise that how much the foreign scene loves watching korean sc2, and maybe make an english stream, and maybe use tastosis (if possible) as caster, for a stream for foreigners.
You can only hope, because I truly think, that once gom's license runs out, things will change in Korea... Alot! Idk how it is in sc2, but as far as BW goes, the only thing holding back foreign BW was how hard everyone sucked in comparison And the fact that you needed a progamer license to compete, you dont need to in sc2. And they sucked in comparison because there was no foreign scene, hell even some of the biggest foreign tourneys, with some of the biggest foreigner names didnt even have any prize money, there just wasnt any foreign scene at all, unlike in sc2, where there's so many tourneys, outside of Korea. Now a days most bw foreigners, who are sc2 progamers, has made more in sc2 than they ever did in bw. The koreans where just so far ahead, they had a huge progaming scene, they had teams with huge sponsors, houses with training facilities, everybody got a salary (yeah some didnt get much, something like 5k and some probably less per year), but they also got food and a place to stay. So to be fair foreigners didnt just suck, but it's pretty hard in any sport for amatours to compete against fulltime professionals. In SC2 there is a foreigner scene, and a pretty big one. However the foreigners are still pretty far behind, except for Stephano, who is just so damn good, even though we have that I still think that things will change alot in Korea, once kespa takes over... I mean why else do they wanna switch to sc2 now that gom's license is soon to expire? Why not earlier? WC3 had a foreign scene comparable the current foreign Sc2 scene (with the size of esports then and now taken into account). Foreigners were invited to numerous tournaments over the years. They still failed for the most part. Hell, did you see the Moon vs. ToD game where Moon used Dark Ranger, stole ToD's Peasant and beat him with Human army? are you fuckign serious now? The "foreigners" in wc3 that went fulltime didnt fail. they were on top with the koreans and later chinese people. Hell do you know that ToD had like the best record vs Moon from all the other players?. sorry but saying people like Grubby ToD , Creo , Hot , Deadman , Madfrog , Heman and many more failed is just stupid... but yeah they invite grubby and moon for a 10k showmatch because grubby is just a scrubby foreigner and this 2 didn thave the best rivalry. Do you seriously know what you're taking about? I'm not talking about their overall records (ToD vs. Moon) or the later time, when Koreans pretty much dumped WC3 after the map scandal. During its prime, when WC3 had leagues like Prime League, Sonokong OGN WC3 league and Clan League, foreigners didn't achieve anything in particular. Even the posterboy MadFroG. I'm not talking the WarCraft World War times... I'm not talking about Creo, Hot or Deadman, that's way past the Korean prime at WC3.
mb u should say that then enxt time and not make it sound like overall.
and the foreigners that played at that time still did pretty good.
but whatever... not the topic here~~
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Good news for SC2, bad news for BW? I dont know...
more BW plix
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On March 20 2012 16:24 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 16:13 Shrewmy wrote:On March 20 2012 15:07 Spiner wrote:On March 17 2012 19:11 Onlinejaguar wrote:
I just hope they realize the foreign popularity for SC2 and have english commentators for broadcasts.
On another note if the big guns such as Flash and Jaedong, etc switch to SC2 it will have a massive impact on SC2 becoming more popular in korea i think. That and I have a feeling Hots will be similar to what brood war did to vanilla sc1. A combination of sc1 pros switching over and HoTs re-vitalizing sc2 could make sc2 huge in Korea and everywhere else. I think it comes down to what units they choose to keep in it, I'm a little worried about the Shredder and Protoss' new units. The shredder seems to have a lot of potential for abuse, whereas the new units for Protoss just feel very gimmicky. I hope I'm proven wrong, I don't want Zerg to get all the cool units, even though I play Zerg. This is a bit off topic but one of the main criticisms of SC2's is the ai pathing. That certainly isn't going to change in any patch of expansion.
The problem with discussions about AI-pathing is often the solution aims to immitate BW, but doesn't consider BW is actually a 2D sprite type set-up with only 8(?) ways to move versus and Full 3D set-up with a more dynamic range of movement. Its subtle, but its a key aspect that a lot of critics I feel over look when proposing solutions to issues with pathing.
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I hope this will help SC2 advance more into E-Sports, especially in South Korea and maybe gain more fans all over the world. There is so much room to expand for Starcraft 2 and when the expansions are out the game will be as huge as BW was/is.
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On March 20 2012 12:48 KevinIX wrote:
It's always great to see Blizzard getting involved in eSports. I hope this means SC2 will be played alongside BW.
What's so fucking great about them getting "involved"?
We've seen nothing but a nazi-like DRM and a totalitarian EULA that -demands- any tournament of a certain size get involved with Blizzard, LAN's with the go-ahead still get blocked from accessing bnet 2.0 because Blizz fucks up and in general nothing happens untill Blizzard says "ok".
Is that great? What would be great was if Blizzard released a great game and let the community and everyone who wanted to make out of if what they could. Only then would you see the greatness of Esports. As it is now Blizzard is the sole emperor and dictator of what goes on, and I think their businesspolicy have proved time and time again they're not out to further Esports, but their own and Activisions coffers.
If history has taught as anything it's that the greatest stuff has always come from places and people without restrictions and limitations.
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On March 20 2012 07:17 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 04:53 MadNeSs wrote:On March 20 2012 03:44 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On March 20 2012 00:58 MadNeSs wrote:
I bet that once Gom's license runs out, then kespa will takeover sc2, and all sc2 will be shown on ogn, and all the bw teams will takeover, because they just have more money to pay the current top sc2 players with, than the current sc2 teams. And then it'll most likely be like bw was, where they dont care much about the foreigners. And then it'll just be like bw, where kespa rules anything, and foreigners wont have a chance to compete, and korean progaming will just purely be in Korea, just like it was with bw. However we might be lucky, that kespa will recognise that how much the foreign scene loves watching korean sc2, and maybe make an english stream, and maybe use tastosis (if possible) as caster, for a stream for foreigners.
You can only hope, because I truly think, that once gom's license runs out, things will change in Korea... Alot! Idk how it is in sc2, but as far as BW goes, the only thing holding back foreign BW was how hard everyone sucked in comparison And the fact that you needed a progamer license to compete, you dont need to in sc2. And they sucked in comparison because there was no foreign scene, hell even some of the biggest foreign tourneys, with some of the biggest foreigner names didnt even have any prize money, there just wasnt any foreign scene at all, unlike in sc2, where there's so many tourneys, outside of Korea. Now a days most bw foreigners, who are sc2 progamers, has made more in sc2 than they ever did in bw. The koreans where just so far ahead, they had a huge progaming scene, they had teams with huge sponsors, houses with training facilities, everybody got a salary (yeah some didnt get much, something like 5k and some probably less per year), but they also got food and a place to stay. So to be fair foreigners didnt just suck, but it's pretty hard in any sport for amatours to compete against fulltime professionals. In SC2 there is a foreigner scene, and a pretty big one. However the foreigners are still pretty far behind, except for Stephano, who is just so damn good, even though we have that I still think that things will change alot in Korea, once kespa takes over... I mean why else do they wanna switch to sc2 now that gom's license is soon to expire? Why not earlier? WC3 had a foreign scene comparable the current foreign Sc2 scene (with the size of esports then and now taken into account). Foreigners were invited to numerous tournaments over the years. They still failed for the most part. Hell, did you see the Moon vs. ToD game where Moon used Dark Ranger, stole ToD's Peasant and beat him with Human army?
well, imo sc2 also takes much more skills than wc3 (not saying that wc3 didnt require alot of skills, because it did), in wc3 all you had to do was micro, walk around and creep, there was upkeep so you therefor didnt need to macro or go back to your base, so not much multitasking involed.
Now I didnt really follow the wc3 scene back then, but afaik in Korea the koreans didnt have team houses, where they practice all day as they do in bw/sc2 now. I might be wrong but they didnt seem to have the same practicing edge over the foreigners as in starcraft. And what I mean by this is, when sc2 was first released alot of team houses where started just because of sc2, did they do that for wc3? No, so it's much different you cant wc3 to sc2 or bw, because they got these huge teamhouses to practice in, where the live together every day, to practice. So in wc3 it would be different obv, because the koreans didnt have this huge edge on the foreigner scene, as they do in sc2, and mainly in bw. My whole point is that with the whole progamer houses, with huge sponsors, like they have in bw, things are gonna change, once kespa gets the power again.
Ogn is on tv, and everything goes through kespa (except for sc2), and they want sc2 to be shown on tv (ogn), so that it can be broadcasted to everybody, but it'll only be to the korean nation. You can say that they might change it to allow foreigners in, yeah maybe they do, but what if they get all the exclusive rights for sc2 in Korea, what will happen to gomtv? Will they coexist with sc2 proleague? Who know, but we can only help. I just have a feeling that once this happens, things are gonna change, and hopefully gsl will stay (it probably will, since it's so big), but things will be different, I am sure.
Also dont forget Kespa's history with gom, they boycutted gom's tournament in bw, and the bw teams have the means to take all the top sc2 players, or atleast all up and coming players, since not many players get a salary, so they'll have a hard time to say "no to the kespa teams. But we'll see, I'm just not a optimistic as you guys are.
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On March 20 2012 20:59 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 16:24 ShadeR wrote:On March 20 2012 16:13 Shrewmy wrote:On March 20 2012 15:07 Spiner wrote:On March 17 2012 19:11 Onlinejaguar wrote:
I just hope they realize the foreign popularity for SC2 and have english commentators for broadcasts.
On another note if the big guns such as Flash and Jaedong, etc switch to SC2 it will have a massive impact on SC2 becoming more popular in korea i think. That and I have a feeling Hots will be similar to what brood war did to vanilla sc1. A combination of sc1 pros switching over and HoTs re-vitalizing sc2 could make sc2 huge in Korea and everywhere else. I think it comes down to what units they choose to keep in it, I'm a little worried about the Shredder and Protoss' new units. The shredder seems to have a lot of potential for abuse, whereas the new units for Protoss just feel very gimmicky. I hope I'm proven wrong, I don't want Zerg to get all the cool units, even though I play Zerg. This is a bit off topic but one of the main criticisms of SC2's is the ai pathing. That certainly isn't going to change in any patch of expansion. The problem with discussions about AI-pathing is often the solution aims to immitate BW, but doesn't consider BW is actually a 2D sprite type set-up with only 8(?) ways to move versus and Full 3D set-up with a more dynamic range of movement. Its subtle, but its a key aspect that a lot of critics I feel over look when proposing solutions to issues with pathing.
I don't know what our trying to get at. Critics have identified a flaw. Unit pathing. The rest is up to Blizzard. Whether they can or can't do it is irrelevant as Browder's position is that they WILL NOT change the AI. Assuming Browder hasn't said anything to the contrary since Kennegit interview.
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On March 20 2012 21:17 MadNeSs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 07:17 maybenexttime wrote:On March 20 2012 04:53 MadNeSs wrote:On March 20 2012 03:44 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On March 20 2012 00:58 MadNeSs wrote:
I bet that once Gom's license runs out, then kespa will takeover sc2, and all sc2 will be shown on ogn, and all the bw teams will takeover, because they just have more money to pay the current top sc2 players with, than the current sc2 teams. And then it'll most likely be like bw was, where they dont care much about the foreigners. And then it'll just be like bw, where kespa rules anything, and foreigners wont have a chance to compete, and korean progaming will just purely be in Korea, just like it was with bw. However we might be lucky, that kespa will recognise that how much the foreign scene loves watching korean sc2, and maybe make an english stream, and maybe use tastosis (if possible) as caster, for a stream for foreigners.
You can only hope, because I truly think, that once gom's license runs out, things will change in Korea... Alot! Idk how it is in sc2, but as far as BW goes, the only thing holding back foreign BW was how hard everyone sucked in comparison And the fact that you needed a progamer license to compete, you dont need to in sc2. And they sucked in comparison because there was no foreign scene, hell even some of the biggest foreign tourneys, with some of the biggest foreigner names didnt even have any prize money, there just wasnt any foreign scene at all, unlike in sc2, where there's so many tourneys, outside of Korea. Now a days most bw foreigners, who are sc2 progamers, has made more in sc2 than they ever did in bw. The koreans where just so far ahead, they had a huge progaming scene, they had teams with huge sponsors, houses with training facilities, everybody got a salary (yeah some didnt get much, something like 5k and some probably less per year), but they also got food and a place to stay. So to be fair foreigners didnt just suck, but it's pretty hard in any sport for amatours to compete against fulltime professionals. In SC2 there is a foreigner scene, and a pretty big one. However the foreigners are still pretty far behind, except for Stephano, who is just so damn good, even though we have that I still think that things will change alot in Korea, once kespa takes over... I mean why else do they wanna switch to sc2 now that gom's license is soon to expire? Why not earlier? WC3 had a foreign scene comparable the current foreign Sc2 scene (with the size of esports then and now taken into account). Foreigners were invited to numerous tournaments over the years. They still failed for the most part. Hell, did you see the Moon vs. ToD game where Moon used Dark Ranger, stole ToD's Peasant and beat him with Human army? Ogn is on tv, and everything goes through kespa (except for sc2), and they want sc2 to be shown on tv (ogn), so that it can be broadcasted to everybody, but it'll only be to the korean nation. You can say that they might change it to allow foreigners in, yeah maybe they do, but what if they get all the exclusive rights for sc2 in Korea, what will happen to gomtv? Will they coexist with sc2 proleague? Who know, but we can only help. I just have a feeling that once this happens, things are gonna change, and hopefully gsl will stay (it probably will, since it's so big), but things will be different, I am sure.
KeSPA already livestreams BW and SF2 proleagues on www.youtube.com/esportstv. They also upload VODs of all proleague matches within a few hours of the match. I see no reason why they wouldn't continue to do this for SC2.
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