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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:21 xsnac wrote: this . + starcraft 2 will overtake League of Legends in korea no doubt . p.s. only flash can do good in sc2 if you ask me You shouldn't post something like this. It's a flambait. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On March 18 2012 05:58 discomatt wrote: It's their product. They keep it maintained. If it wasn't for them, how could organizations like KeSPA exist? Is it really the unreasonable for them to ask for a share of the profits KeSPA makes because of this product? Should the movie industry allow theatres to buy a consumer DVD, and charge viewers $5/ticket to see it? I am sorry for making that remark, I have already stated my opinions on this in several threads where it was on topic (and I will doubtlessly do it again, when it pops again  - it would be a big derail here. Just for the record, the "analogy" is totally flawed. Spin me a PM if you are up for an endless discussion. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:21 xsnac wrote: this . + starcraft 2 will overtake League of Legends in korea no doubt . p.s. only flash can do good in sc2 if you ask me If a 30-year-old 2v2 BW failure can become the best in SC2 I'm sure most every current A-team BW pro can as well. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:22 1Eris1 wrote: Purchasing merchandise/spreading the word/bringing in new viewers/visiting it live/etc doesn't count as support now? Shit. I guess I've never really supported anything but myself then 99% of the foreign BW scene is just watching Nanashin's stream, which KeSPA makes $0 from. | ||
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Pelopidas
Canada225 Posts
On March 18 2012 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote: game play mechanics evolve over time. Pierce stated Starcraft2 was part of a 10 year eSports plan. so i expect its "eSports life cycle" to be about 10 years. i'm satisfied with that. Why is it necessary for gameplay mechanics to change? Millions of people still enjoy playing and watching Brood War. New strategies are developed all the time. Something that works so well doesn't need to be changed. Starcraft doesn't need marauders, roaches, and balling up just like basketball doesn't need its ball to be made out of silly putty, and a bull released onto the court in the 4th quarter. Esports having a ten year life cycle is ridiculous. That means that all achievements in the current game will be thrown out just so Blizzard can cash in. Professional games shouldn't be forced to change into a new version just because some corporate hack decided that would be good for the bottom line. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:26 Ribbon wrote: 99% of the foreign BW scene is just watching Nanashin's stream, which KeSPA makes $0 from. Yeah not really. Great job making up statistics though. Really solid arguement too, especially considering that they're aren't any SC2 fans doing stuff like that.... | ||
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Anyx
Slovakia36 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:21 xsnac wrote: this . + starcraft 2 will overtake League of Legends in korea no doubt . p.s. only flash can do good in sc2 if you ask me Your opinion is serious ... i mean serious laughtable | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:26 Ribbon wrote: 99% of the foreign BW scene is just watching Nanashin's stream, which KeSPA makes $0 from. To be fair, there was never an alternative. That's changed now with ESportsTV so people need to start using that over restreams. | ||
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:14 Dodgin wrote: Let's be serious now, if it was so integrated there would still be an MBC game and the OSL would have started months ago. BW was more popular a couple of years ago yes, but it’s still on prime time TV (compared to random internet streams) and the teams are sponsored by huge companies. More importantly, it’s not like Flash is first popular player in the scene, I even doubt that he has much more fans than Bisu/Jaedong. It used to be, It's not anymore. Just look at how easily League of Legends is becoming popular. Is that integrated into Korean culture now too? It is too early to tell how successful LoL will become and for how long it can remain interesting to the viewers. At least it’s doing way better than SC2 at the moment. | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
"Mike Morhaime signed a contract with KESPA to kill bw over the next 6 months, and force every bw star players to switch to sc2, using violence if required" Bw has a lot more Korean viewers than sc2, it will probably have as much impact on bw pros as lol being part of ogn broadcasts | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:33 pPingu wrote: Seriously, where did people read "Mike Morhaime signed a contract with KESPA to kill bw over the next 6 months, and force every bw star players to switch to sc2, using violence if required" Bw has a lot more Korean viewers than sc2, it will probably have as much impact on bw pros as lol being part of ogn broadcasts The only difference is that instead of having really deep BW rosters, the corporate teams will likely have B-teamers switch to SC2. There will be player losses in that regard, unless they're gonna recruit a ton more just for SC2, which I find quite unlikely. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
By consolidating the BW scene and the SC2 scene they are fortifying their position. Admittedly I don't want BW to end, it is all I watched when I had OGN on my TV network plan when I first got to Korea, but it has to find a way to make itself fresh to a new audience. BW's popularity is waining, and this is an attempt to try and recapture an audience. I would love for KESPA to find a way that both BW and SC2 can live happily together on the Korean pro scene, and I actually think they will. But strengthening the defences (KespA stand to make a tonne of money this way, as they will now have the foreign followers which is something I doubt they are used to.) However, I will miss going to the esports festival they had in some random ass city, which was attatched to a dance festival, and seeing young kids, and old people playing BW, Sudden and other korean 'esports'. that was awesome | ||
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justsayinbro
307 Posts
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:39 Forikorder wrote: has anyone considered BW pros want to switch over to SC2 to make more money? Nestea, Puma, MC, MVP, MMA etc. were probably thinking along those lines. But I find it less likely that well paid A-teamers would switch to earn less money. | ||
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K-Na
Canada86 Posts
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discomatt
113 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:39 Forikorder wrote: has anyone considered BW pros want to switch over to SC2 to make more money? Why do you think players are moving over to LoL? Riot injects so much money into the competitive scene. For many talented multi-taking RTS players, LoL is potentially easy money. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:39 Forikorder wrote: has anyone considered BW pros want to switch over to SC2 to make more money? Then they can switch, nothing is stopping them (and in fact some b-teamers did move last year). What does that have to do with this? The players that are playing pro bW right now are doing so because they want to. If they didn't want to they would retire/move to sc2. | ||
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Taiki
Norway57 Posts
I have the impression that KeSPA is tasked with finding huge sponsors for BW events like OSL hence names, for example Jin Air Starleague. These events are also sent on TV by OGN. So exactly where in this process does KeSPAs money come from? | ||
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