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Mike Morhaime "SC2 Proleague will open this year" - Page 26

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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
March 17 2012 15:48 GMT
#501
SlayerS to SKT.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 17 2012 15:48 GMT
#502
not sure how i want to feel about this. i still love the crap out of brood war and would be sad to see BW proleague disappear
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
March 17 2012 15:48 GMT
#503
As long as GOM doesn't go down, this is awesome. Why would we want OGN to rule? Less Starcraft for everyone!
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
March 17 2012 15:51 GMT
#504
On March 18 2012 00:42 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:38 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:29 Chargelot wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:28 goding wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:27 Chargelot wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:25 shadymmj wrote:
The foreign fanbase isn't invested in GOM but the players in the GSL, who would be dumb not to switch to a team sponsored by a BW company. Assuming they indeed sponsor teams in the sc2 PL scene.

It could be difficult for teams to participate in both leagues at once if a gentleman's agreement is not reached.


I'm sure KeSPA will enforce exclusivity with the PL players, and not allow them to compete in any other tournament, anywhere in the world, for any reason.


Dont you think Blizz will do anything against that because I think they will.

Blizzard has proven time and time again that they are interested in money, not ethics, not morals, not what's good for the community, just money. KeSPA is a sort of temptress that I don't trust around Blizzard.


you're making it seem like blizzard's servers run on little boy's tears somewhere in Africa
please show me how blizzard only cares about money and completely ignores ethics, morals, and the community

Because if you really think about it, blizzard has a lot more involvement with the community than a lot of other games
they have forums
community polls regarding maps, game units and other things
they sponsor events, like the GSL
they even have blizzcon
hell, they even made us wait YEARS for games such as SC2 and Diablo 3 because they are so concerned with getting a really good game out..

so please enlighten me on how blizzard is so evil


Riot Games, LLC. Enough said.

Forums is a necessity for any fucking MMO game, lets get that out of the way. It's a necessary expense.
Community polls are cute, but it doesn't cost them anything. If I offered them $100,000.00 to neglect the poll results, they'd do it.
They "sponsor" events, in the form of giving GOM a contract and collecting money. They don't "sponsor" events like Dr. Pepper sponsors MLG.
Blizzcon was canceled (was that this year?), but normally it's the worlds best marketing toy, and it earns them money.
We wait years for SC2 and Diablo 3 because a finished product sells more copies.

They don't care about you, stop pretending they're Jesus, Inc.
They care about money. It's not fucking shocking, they are a capitalist business. They're supposed to care about money.


so what you're saying is that Blizzard is evil because Riot Games puts more emphasis on their community?
oh right, I forgot that there can only be one company in the world who can care about the community
it's also important to note that riot games is a non-profit altruistic company right? making money is nowhere in their agenda and all they want to do is cherish the community
right..

There is no company in the world who doesn't have money in their agenda, and while some companies have a questionable approach. Blizzard is by no means an evil company who ignores their community, and definitely puts more emphasis on the community of their games, as well as outside of their games than A LOT of companies out there.
http://www.vivendi.com/vivendi/Employees-involvment

you're just an angry person that doesn't understand how a company functions and is 'happy' with one company. And if no other company does the same then they are immediately evil.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 17 2012 15:52 GMT
#505
On March 17 2012 15:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I hope there will be a BW proleague too.

IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS



He said "right as season two begins" which suggests there will be another season of BW Proleague
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
March 17 2012 15:53 GMT
#506
Sweeeeet!
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
March 17 2012 15:54 GMT
#507
On March 17 2012 15:54 Fionn wrote:
I want a GSTL vs. SC2 Proleague Super Bowl-like final.

Ratings. Ratings everywhere.



This would be awesome.

And also, I would like to say that I think that this is the better way to do it. Having teams compete all at the same time rather than have individual players slowly leak through to Starcraft 2 like Zergbong(Nestea) and ForGG(Fin)
Want to sport eSports? Disable adblock. P.S. En Taro Adun!!
IrOnKaL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States340 Posts
March 17 2012 15:56 GMT
#508
On March 18 2012 00:42 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:38 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:29 Chargelot wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:28 goding wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:27 Chargelot wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:25 shadymmj wrote:
The foreign fanbase isn't invested in GOM but the players in the GSL, who would be dumb not to switch to a team sponsored by a BW company. Assuming they indeed sponsor teams in the sc2 PL scene.

It could be difficult for teams to participate in both leagues at once if a gentleman's agreement is not reached.


I'm sure KeSPA will enforce exclusivity with the PL players, and not allow them to compete in any other tournament, anywhere in the world, for any reason.


Dont you think Blizz will do anything against that because I think they will.

Blizzard has proven time and time again that they are interested in money, not ethics, not morals, not what's good for the community, just money. KeSPA is a sort of temptress that I don't trust around Blizzard.


you're making it seem like blizzard's servers run on little boy's tears somewhere in Africa
please show me how blizzard only cares about money and completely ignores ethics, morals, and the community

Because if you really think about it, blizzard has a lot more involvement with the community than a lot of other games
they have forums
community polls regarding maps, game units and other things
they sponsor events, like the GSL
they even have blizzcon
hell, they even made us wait YEARS for games such as SC2 and Diablo 3 because they are so concerned with getting a really good game out..

so please enlighten me on how blizzard is so evil


Riot Games, LLC. Enough said.

Forums is a necessity for any fucking MMO game, lets get that out of the way. It's a necessary expense.
Community polls are cute, but it doesn't cost them anything. If I offered them $100,000.00 to neglect the poll results, they'd do it.
They "sponsor" events, in the form of giving GOM a contract and collecting money. They don't "sponsor" events like Dr. Pepper sponsors MLG.
Blizzcon was canceled (was that this year?), but normally it's the worlds best marketing toy, and it earns them money.
We wait years for SC2 and Diablo 3 because a finished product sells more copies.

They don't care about you, stop pretending they're Jesus, Inc.
They care about money. It's not fucking shocking, they are a capitalist business. They're supposed to care about money.

About Blizzcon, they're still holding their yearly huge tournament so I don't get what you're complaining about.
And about them not getting involved and not caring about "me"...do you not see all the GSL maps getting put in?
What you posted seems silly to me.
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
March 17 2012 15:57 GMT
#509
O_O
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
March 17 2012 16:04 GMT
#510
On March 18 2012 00:43 HejaBVB wrote:
Show nested quote +
IPL 3= LOL buys in
MLG = LOL buys in
KOREA = LOL buys in


All because of smart decisions by RIOT. Thats why LoL is so big and proably a better game with HoN isn't.

Yeah, I remember that everyone in the HoN community used to laugh at LoL for buying themselves into DreamHack and stuff, but now they probably don't even need to buy in, because the streams get so much viewers that tourneys realize that they need to have a LoL tourney. I wish that HoN had such amazing marketing. Anyway i hope DotA2 will do well, Valve is a much better company then S2 Games.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
March 17 2012 16:11 GMT
#511
If gom goes down ill be bitter for a while.

I dont care what production quality ogn has, gom is established in sc2 and i dont think ogn can really dethrome gom easily. If they can, id like an explanation as to how
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
March 17 2012 16:21 GMT
#512
Everyone will benefit if all the parties involved work together in a reasonable fashion.
davidohx
Profile Joined July 2010
United States114 Posts
March 17 2012 16:24 GMT
#513
Yeah so...its kinda like an Msl/Osl thing in a way?
"A dream is like a virus" -Leonardo Dicaprio (Inception)
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
March 17 2012 16:25 GMT
#514
This is AWESOME :D i hope it works out great :3
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 16:32:04
March 17 2012 16:25 GMT
#515
On March 18 2012 00:29 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:28 goding wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:27 Chargelot wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:25 shadymmj wrote:
The foreign fanbase isn't invested in GOM but the players in the GSL, who would be dumb not to switch to a team sponsored by a BW company. Assuming they indeed sponsor teams in the sc2 PL scene.

It could be difficult for teams to participate in both leagues at once if a gentleman's agreement is not reached.


I'm sure KeSPA will enforce exclusivity with the PL players, and not allow them to compete in any other tournament, anywhere in the world, for any reason.


Dont you think Blizz will do anything against that because I think they will.

Blizzard has proven time and time again that they are interested in money, not ethics, not morals, not what's good for the community, just money. KeSPA is a sort of temptress that I don't trust around Blizzard.

who says money and "morals and ethics" have to be conflicting motives?

with an ethical monetary system in place money is the root of all good.
with the current voodoo money system in place in hte USA money is at least sometimes the root of all good.
so your comment "money, not morals, not ethics" does not mean much.

Blizzard is a good company that cares about both morals and money.

those pieces of paper in your wallet are your statement of hope that your fellow man honours the willingness to trade the product of his effort.. for the product of your effort... your money.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
March 17 2012 16:27 GMT
#516
Well, here's to a few seasons of GSTL teams destroying the crap out of BW legends and stars until they get completely used to the game.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
March 17 2012 16:28 GMT
#517
would be cool but im not sure how this and gsl would work at the same time...
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Pelopidas
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada225 Posts
March 17 2012 16:28 GMT
#518
So I guess that a competitive scene can never exist based on a game's actual quality and popularity, and instead is merely a tool to market the next big thing. Everyone who is applauding this move should think about what will happen to Browder's game once Warcraft 4, or the next game set in the Starcraft Universe is released.

How can you expect esports to be taken seriously, when a game can be replaced on a whim, regardless of its history, or cultural impact. How can esports be taken seriously when a culturally significant game can be replaced by a vaguely related game just because it happens to be set in the same universe and have 2 at the end of its name.
Esports killed Starcraft
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 16:31:27
March 17 2012 16:30 GMT
#519
On March 18 2012 01:28 Pelopidas wrote:
So I guess that a competitive scene can never exist based on a game's actual quality and popularity, and instead is merely a tool to market the next big thing. Everyone who is applauding this move should think about what will happen to Browder's game once Warcraft 4, or the next game set in the Starcraft Universe is released.

How can you expect esports to be taken seriously, when a game can be replaced on a whim, regardless of its history, or cultural impact. How can esports be taken seriously when a culturally significant game can be replaced by a vaguely related game just because it happens to be set in the same universe and have 2 at the end of its name.


game play mechanics evolve over time.

Pierce stated Starcraft2 was part of a 10 year eSports plan.
so i expect its "eSports life cycle" to be about 10 years.
i'm satisfied with that.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
March 17 2012 16:31 GMT
#520
nice
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