EPTThis thread (and the sc2sea one) shows pretty clearly that both Invidea and Nvidea's target audience do confuse the two.
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VB_WhiplashJC
Australia64 Posts
This thread (and the sc2sea one) shows pretty clearly that both Invidea and Nvidea's target audience do confuse the two. | ||
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AusBox
Australia214 Posts
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Nihilnovi
Sweden696 Posts
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ions
Australia3 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On March 09 2012 17:14 Dox wrote: Should this organisation also change their name? If anything, our name implies association to vehicle customisation, not graphics processors. Please understand the origin of the word before claiming "copyright infringement."  That's silly. You're a team of people who play computer games. Your name is phonetically identical to the name of a company that is heavily invested in the computer games industry. Most of your viewers will come in contact with your team through computer game related media, and will make the connection straight away. Any number of posts in this thread prove that. You're not going to make that go away by pointing at the auto company and smirking. That's completely irrelevant. It's not even about copyright, it's about the immediate reactions of the people who see your clan name, and the fact that there's no way in the world another gaming company will sponsor you when you're representing Nvidia for free and without their permission at the same time. Just save yourselves the pain and change it. You're adamant that most people call you "Envy" anyway, so why not make that official? | ||
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fnaticNoname
India858 Posts
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IceSlipper
Australia1028 Posts
On March 09 2012 18:50 Belisarius wrote: That's silly. You're a team of people who play computer games. Your name is phonetically identical to the name of a company that is heavily invested in the computer games industry. Most of your viewers will come in contact with your team through computer game related media, and will make the connection straight away. Any number of posts in this thread prove that. You're not going to make that go away by pointing at the auto company and smirking. That's completely irrelevant. It's not even about copyright, it's about the immediate reactions of the people who see your clan name, and the fact that there's no way in the world another gaming company will sponsor you when you're representing Nvidia for free and without their permission at the same time. Just save yourselves the pain and change it. You're adamant that most people call you "Envy" anyway, so why not make that official? Pretty much agree with this.. Its all good and well to point fingers at other companys/organizations with similar/the same name, but nvidia is directly related to the industry you are in.. Its the equivilant of a racing team calling themselves 'Team Firrari' without ferrari's permission and not using ferrari cars, saying its unrelated or doesn't make a difference.. | ||
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The_Dark
South Africa222 Posts
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BBQSAC
Australia89 Posts
On March 09 2012 17:03 SwitchAUS wrote: Girt by sea, bitches :D Awesome quote lol Also nice to see KawaiiRice's comment about SEA players being under-rated. Warm fuzzy feeling from having other good foreigners notice the happenings of SEA server | ||
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AssyrianKing
Australia2121 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On March 09 2012 18:29 Nihilnovi wrote: Is this affiliated with nvidia / is it their team? That seems kind of huge if they are sponsoring a team now This is the main problem with the name imo (not copyright). It just creates confusion and 99% of people will assume it's associated with Nvidia. Most of your fans aren't going to be latin majors. | ||
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TiraMissU
Australia5 Posts
Why not use something like Envasion or E/Invysion? It can still keep the Nv name tag which i think is cool imo :3 | ||
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HuggyBear
Australia377 Posts
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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PooNinja
Australia46 Posts
On March 09 2012 18:50 Belisarius wrote: That's silly. You're a team of people who play computer games. Your name is phonetically identical to the name of a company that is heavily invested in the computer games industry. Most of your viewers will come in contact with your team through computer game related media, and will make the connection straight away. Any number of posts in this thread prove that. You're not going to make that go away by pointing at the auto company and smirking. That's completely irrelevant. It's not even about copyright, it's about the immediate reactions of the people who see your clan name, and the fact that there's no way in the world another gaming company will sponsor you when you're representing Nvidia for free and without their permission at the same time. Just save yourselves the pain and change it. You're adamant that most people call you "Envy" anyway, so why not make that official? Well said! No disrespect intended to your new team (fan of Glade here), but I'm finding it kind of hard to take you seriously Dox, when you shrug off so nonchalantly these important and valid issues that people are raising. Do you really think a judge is going to find statements like these: On March 09 2012 17:14 Dox wrote: Should this organisation also change their name? If anything, our name implies association to vehicle customisation, not graphics processors. Please understand the origin of the word before claiming "copyright infringement." and this: On March 08 2012 23:31 Dox wrote: I hope you realise the word "Invidia" has been around a loooooooot longer than the company "Nvidia." as compelling defences against litigation brought against you? Did you really not seek legal advice before entering into this setup? If not, that concerns me, because it conveys to me that the team isn't being set up and managed in a professional manner. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On March 09 2012 18:50 Belisarius wrote: That's silly. You're a team of people who play computer games. Your name is phonetically identical to the name of a company that is heavily invested in the computer games industry. Most of your viewers will come in contact with your team through computer game related media, and will make the connection straight away. Any number of posts in this thread prove that. You're not going to make that go away by pointing at the auto company and smirking. That's completely irrelevant. It's not even about copyright, it's about the immediate reactions of the people who see your clan name, and the fact that there's no way in the world another gaming company will sponsor you when you're representing Nvidia for free and without their permission at the same time. Just save yourselves the pain and change it. You're adamant that most people call you "Envy" anyway, so why not make that official? Was going to make a similar post until I read this one that sums up what I think. | ||
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
On March 10 2012 01:06 PooNinja wrote: Well said! No disrespect intended to your new team (fan of Glade here), but I'm finding it kind of hard to take you seriously Dox, when you shrug off so nonchalantly these important and valid issues that people are raising. Do you really think a judge is going to find statements like these: and this: as compelling defences against litigation brought against you? Did you really not seek legal advice before entering into this setup? If not, that concerns me, because it conveys to me that the team isn't being set up and managed in a professional manner. For the record, Nvidia is fine with it. And no, I absolutely did not seek legal advice. I'm shrugging these "issues" off nonchalantly because they're not really issues at all. | ||
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ChadMann
Australia128 Posts
On March 09 2012 17:58 PooNinja wrote: A chapter out of a book by one of Australia's best IP lawyers, SC Shane Simpson: http://www.simpsons.com.au/wp-content/uploads/music_business_3_chapter_011.pdf Before you say, "wait that book is about the music industry", just read the first 3 pages, and ignore anything that specifically relates to music. It applies to any branding, so just extract the key statements from it. Here are some particularly interesting parts: "Don’t assume that you don’t have a problem just because the other user of the name is in a different business or in another geographical area. They may well have the right to stop you from using the name." "If your searches reveal that someone else is using a name identical or even similar to the one you want to use, be careful! Don’t assume that ‘things will be all right’." "In the general law, there is an action called ‘passing off ’, which prohibits any party from misrepresenting itself (or its goods or services) as though it was another. In other words, it prohibits the false appropriation of the other’s reputation." Trade Practices Act s53 regarding false representations: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/num_act/tpa1974149/s53.html Why are you quoting the Trade Practices Act?.. LOL - Misrepresentation is about, saying a product will do X but it doesn't. Not, making a product look like another to trick you into associating the other brands reputation with the new product. Anyway, that is quite common in business. Look at how copycat brands align themselves with the industry leader next time your at the supermarket. For the record - I Study Marketing and Business Law (about 6 weeks from Graduation). There is ZERO copyright infringement involved in the team name. While it can be presumed that ATi aren't going to sponsor this team any time soon - the word being used here is Invidia - Latin for Envy... and the team abbreviation is Nv... not Nvidia - additionally the teams colours (Red and Gold) are not similar to Nvidia (Black and Green) so there is zero visual similarities. The fact that you guys are all thinking of Nvidia proves how successful their marketing brainwash has been  Perhaps you're all just envious of the awesome team Dox has put together?! Team Nvidia is going to take the world by storm! Good luck guys! >.< | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
I don't see how nobody thought this was a bad idea... Good Luck nonetheless! | ||
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idonthinksobro
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seems an odd name choice | ||
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