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On March 05 2012 13:09 bokchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:07 Forikorder wrote: whats with all the SC players going to LoL coachs...? they basically gave-up their youth, education, and lives to play video games.. not a lot going for them
That's very depressing but true. I don't think some people really know how much time and dedication being a pro gamer takes.
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On March 05 2012 13:09 bokchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:07 Forikorder wrote: whats with all the SC players going to LoL coachs...? they basically gave-up their youth, education, and lives to play video games.. not a lot going for them ya im sure BoxeR gave up his life to be a succesful SC player, i mean if he did something worthwhile he might be famous world wide made tons of money and had a hot GF
and Polt, i mean he could ahve gone to a high level university or something
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would love to see some korean ownage in dota 2 or even hon, but unfortunately, it seems like LoL is taking over there. anyways, gl hf FD
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its a wise choice considering stagnation of sc2 scene. also, I think LoL will be much bigger than sc2/dota2 in near future.
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On March 05 2012 13:12 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:09 bokchoi wrote:On March 05 2012 13:07 Forikorder wrote: whats with all the SC players going to LoL coachs...? they basically gave-up their youth, education, and lives to play video games.. not a lot going for them ya im sure BoxeR gave up his life to be a succesful SC player, i mean if he did something worthwhile he might be famous world wide made tons of money and had a hot GF and Polt, i mean he could ahve gone to a high level university or something
he's talking about the ones that didnt make it.
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The LoL scene is growing at such a frightening fast pace, will definitely not be surprised to see it become as big as starcraft in korea...which made me start practicing it
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On March 05 2012 13:12 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:09 bokchoi wrote:On March 05 2012 13:07 Forikorder wrote: whats with all the SC players going to LoL coachs...? they basically gave-up their youth, education, and lives to play video games.. not a lot going for them ya im sure BoxeR gave up his life to be a succesful SC player, i mean if he did something worthwhile he might be famous world wide made tons of money and had a hot GF and Polt, i mean he could ahve gone to a high level university or something There are those that burn out and have nothing left- the people you can't name off the top of your head. And while Polt is a nice example, he's an exception. There's a reason why you singled him out and only him- there are so few SC players in University that those that are are known for it.
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LOL
User was warned for this post
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On March 05 2012 13:14 FinestHour wrote:The LoL scene is growing at such a frightening fast pace, will definitely not be surprised to see it become as big as starcraft in korea...which made me start practicing it  thing is from what ive heard LoL doesnt have much long term viability, i think its mainly the makers who are sponsoring the tournys while Blizz has pretty much washed its hands off supporting SC2 after NASL
also with MLGs winter arena tournaments are starting to figure out how to turn a profit, Sundance has said that the winter arena is a sustainable bussiness without any sponsors (whicch i beleive is the only event in SC2 history) so to sponsors theyll look at LoL and see viewers and an industry that is gobbling up money and theyll look at SC2 and see a scene that is starting to become sustainable and start spending money over there
also i wouldnt be surprised if LoL teams are mainly springing up becuase they see big tourny prises and less that theres a huge giant viewrbase but i dont have access to any numbers here and just guessing
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On March 05 2012 13:08 pt wrote: guess ill be the first to say it. in lol, you control 1 character and you have teammates. coaching would be like playing starcraft ^^
I don't understand people when they say you don't need a coach because it is a "team " sport??
everyone has a coach, professional counter strike teams/ halo teams / hockey teams, and in this context everything still applies to individual sports (swimming / badminton / ping-pong / sc2 )
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On March 05 2012 13:05 Rinrun wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:03 dongus wrote: I don't understand. What's there to coach in LoL? It's a team sport? There is coordination? Plays? I know what you're trying to say though lol.
Oh the mods think I'm trolling because its my first post -.-
I was just being curious on what is there to coach at LoL
Because I never get to play MOBAs and don't see any necessary things to coach
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This is sad, but can you really blame him?? LoL is where the money is at and he is obviously not doing well in sc2 so this is a perfectly wise career decision.
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On March 05 2012 12:55 Shellshock1122 wrote: No surprise. His sc2 career has pretty much been over since iem NY
Yep. But it was crazy how he was 1 game from winning IEM NY, but also qualifying for the Blizzcup. Pity we couldn't see him at IEM WC.
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On March 05 2012 13:18 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:14 FinestHour wrote:The LoL scene is growing at such a frightening fast pace, will definitely not be surprised to see it become as big as starcraft in korea...which made me start practicing it  thing is from what ive heard LoL doesnt have much long term viability, i think its mainly the makers who are sponsoring the tournys while Blizz has pretty much washed its hands off supporting SC2 after NASL also with MLGs winter arena tournaments are starting to figure out how to turn a profit, Sundance has said that the winter arena is a sustainable bussiness without any sponsors (whicch i beleive is the only event in SC2 history) so to sponsors theyll look at LoL and see viewers and an industry that is gobbling up money and theyll look at SC2 and see a scene that is starting to become sustainable and start spending money over there also i wouldnt be surprised if LoL teams are mainly springing up becuase they see big tourny prises and less that theres a huge giant viewrbase but i dont have access to any numbers here and just guessing
LoL viewerbase is bigger than SC2s in basically every way, even the top top streamers double the top sc2 streamers most of the time, some can average around 11k viewers. Major LoL tournaments regularly have 100k+ people watching.
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On March 05 2012 13:18 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:14 FinestHour wrote:The LoL scene is growing at such a frightening fast pace, will definitely not be surprised to see it become as big as starcraft in korea...which made me start practicing it  thing is from what ive heard LoL doesnt have much long term viability, i think its mainly the makers who are sponsoring the tournys while Blizz has pretty much washed its hands off supporting SC2 after NASL also with MLGs winter arena tournaments are starting to figure out how to turn a profit, Sundance has said that the winter arena is a sustainable bussiness without any sponsors (whicch i beleive is the only event in SC2 history) so to sponsors theyll look at LoL and see viewers and an industry that is gobbling up money and theyll look at SC2 and see a scene that is starting to become sustainable and start spending money over there also i wouldnt be surprised if LoL teams are mainly springing up becuase they see big tourny prises and less that theres a huge giant viewrbase but i dont have access to any numbers here and just guessing
SC2 isn't very sustainable at the moment, very few tournaments are actually making a lot of money. And LoL has a much much larger fanbase at the moment. At all of the tournaments where it was SC2+LoL+etc, LoL always had 2-4 times as many viewers as SC2
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On March 05 2012 13:12 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:09 bokchoi wrote:On March 05 2012 13:07 Forikorder wrote: whats with all the SC players going to LoL coachs...? they basically gave-up their youth, education, and lives to play video games.. not a lot going for them ya im sure BoxeR gave up his life to be a succesful SC player, i mean if he did something worthwhile he might be famous world wide made tons of money and had a hot GF and Polt, i mean he could ahve gone to a high level university or something
People have already mentioned this but nice job picking the best SC player ever and a huge exception to the rule in Polt, the fact is for every Polt there are a dozen B-teamers that we never see who are giving up years of their lives that could go to classes or jobs to play a video game that just by the numbers the majority of them won't be stars in, that's how being a star works. And right now the SCII scene isn't big enough or strong enough to give real prospects to non-stars, hell even some of the most successful players see this, look at Stephano if anyone can make it just on Starcraft he could but he still would rather retire early and start into something else.
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On March 05 2012 13:15 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:12 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2012 13:09 bokchoi wrote:On March 05 2012 13:07 Forikorder wrote: whats with all the SC players going to LoL coachs...? they basically gave-up their youth, education, and lives to play video games.. not a lot going for them ya im sure BoxeR gave up his life to be a succesful SC player, i mean if he did something worthwhile he might be famous world wide made tons of money and had a hot GF and Polt, i mean he could ahve gone to a high level university or something There are those that burn out and have nothing left- the people you can't name off the top of your head. And while Polt is a nice example, he's an exception. There's a reason why you singled him out and only him- there are so few SC players in University that those that are are known for it. your acting like SC2 is a dead end profession, it isnt you can win enough money to transition out of it if you really badly want to or you can go into coaching or commentating
the only difference between a SC2 player and any other sport player except Chess i guess is theres less money in the SC2 community for now but with the salaries palyers make from there teams theres nothing stopping them from pursuing tertiary education
People have already mentioned this but nice job picking the best SC player ever and a huge exception to the rule in Polt, the fact is for every Polt there are a dozen B-teamers that we never see who are giving up years of their lives that could go to classes or jobs to play a video game that just by the numbers the majority of them won't be stars in, that's how being a star works. And right now the SCII scene isn't big enough or strong enough to give real prospects to non-stars, hell even some of the most successful players see this, look at Stephano if anyone can make it just on Starcraft he could but he still would rather retire early and start into something else.
i say stephano is talking out of both sides of his mouth with one
hes trying to pretend he doesnt care about starcraft at all and that he only practices a couple hours a day and only cares about the money, then he throws away free money by forfeiting a tournament so he doesnt show bad games, he obviously cares alot more about the game then he lets on no way hell retire early
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following in the footsteps of yellow =D cant say i approve, but whatever makes his boat float...
I LOVED YOU LIKE MY BROTHER
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
T_T
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On March 05 2012 13:19 dongus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:05 Rinrun wrote:On March 05 2012 13:03 dongus wrote: I don't understand. What's there to coach in LoL? It's a team sport? There is coordination? Plays? I know what you're trying to say though lol. Oh the mods think I'm trolling because its my first post -.- I was just being curious on what is there to coach at LoL Because I never get to play MOBAs and don't see any necessary things to coach
if you never played it, how can you judge it? Prejuduice?
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Well, lets be honest...
this fits FruitDealer. LoL is an easier, more relaxed game, and that seems to fit FruitDealer's style far more than StarCraft does.
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