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Profile Joined March 2009
United States196 Posts
March 05 2012 04:34 GMT
#61
This makes me sad Good luck to Fruitdealer though!
#1 Fruitdealer fan!
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 04:35:53
March 05 2012 04:34 GMT
#62
On March 05 2012 13:30 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 13:27 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:24 Navillus wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:18 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:14 FinestHour wrote:
The LoL scene is growing at such a frightening fast pace, will definitely not be surprised to see it become as big as starcraft in korea...which made me start practicing it

thing is from what ive heard LoL doesnt have much long term viability, i think its mainly the makers who are sponsoring the tournys while Blizz has pretty much washed its hands off supporting SC2 after NASL

also with MLGs winter arena tournaments are starting to figure out how to turn a profit, Sundance has said that the winter arena is a sustainable bussiness without any sponsors (whicch i beleive is the only event in SC2 history) so to sponsors theyll look at LoL and see viewers and an industry that is gobbling up money and theyll look at SC2 and see a scene that is starting to become sustainable and start spending money over there

also i wouldnt be surprised if LoL teams are mainly springing up becuase they see big tourny prises and less that theres a huge giant viewrbase but i dont have access to any numbers here and just guessing


This is really wishful thinking, LoL has a base larger viewer base than SCII just because it's F2P, if SCII manages to ever find a model that is sustainable LoL will too and will have it better, if we don't... they still might, but if they fail with the support their getting and the much higher viewer count (and that's really what matters, the viewer count is what's going to decide how much money tournies make and whether they'll be able to float) then you can be sure that Starcraft will fail too.

lol is F2P which alot of people point at

oh look becuase its free alot of people paly it and watch it

MLG found out how to sustainable with PPV, how many people are gonna say "well if im not even willing to pay to paly the game why would i pay to watch it?"

SC2 viewerbase is growing fast, not jsut people who play the game but alot of people who dont, youll never walk into a bar and see LoL on the screen anytime soon

I find LoL a headache and a bore to watch and play, but it does have a bigger playerbase and a bigger viewership base, primarily because the playerbase is so huge. I doubt SC2 will catch up anytime soon. Blizzard had its chance, but they crushed it (esp. in Korea).


I like watching LoL because it isn't like SC2 where it becomes a 30+ minute farmfest then one big fight GG or a cheese game that takes around 8 minutes. Plus its a team game, whereas SC2 is purely a solo game. Even as a teamleague. Seeing team synergy in LoL is kind of thrilling~

If you haven't noticed LoL is getting EVERY popular in Korea now, OGN is hosting tournaments and hosting them on TV. In PC cafes I believe is it on the top 10 list and SC2 isn't even on there... which is odd
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 04:37:21
March 05 2012 04:35 GMT
#63
On March 05 2012 13:27 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 13:24 Navillus wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:18 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:14 FinestHour wrote:
The LoL scene is growing at such a frightening fast pace, will definitely not be surprised to see it become as big as starcraft in korea...which made me start practicing it

thing is from what ive heard LoL doesnt have much long term viability, i think its mainly the makers who are sponsoring the tournys while Blizz has pretty much washed its hands off supporting SC2 after NASL

also with MLGs winter arena tournaments are starting to figure out how to turn a profit, Sundance has said that the winter arena is a sustainable bussiness without any sponsors (whicch i beleive is the only event in SC2 history) so to sponsors theyll look at LoL and see viewers and an industry that is gobbling up money and theyll look at SC2 and see a scene that is starting to become sustainable and start spending money over there

also i wouldnt be surprised if LoL teams are mainly springing up becuase they see big tourny prises and less that theres a huge giant viewrbase but i dont have access to any numbers here and just guessing


This is really wishful thinking, LoL has a base larger viewer base than SCII just because it's F2P, if SCII manages to ever find a model that is sustainable LoL will too and will have it better, if we don't... they still might, but if they fail with the support their getting and the much higher viewer count (and that's really what matters, the viewer count is what's going to decide how much money tournies make and whether they'll be able to float) then you can be sure that Starcraft will fail too.

lol is F2P which alot of people point at

oh look becuase its free alot of people paly it and watch it

MLG found out how to sustainable with PPV, how many people are gonna say "well if im not even willing to pay to paly the game why would i pay to watch it?"

SC2 viewerbase is growing fast, not jsut people who play the game but alot of people who dont, youll never walk into a bar and see LoL on the screen anytime soon


Um SC2's viewerbase has actually shrunk considerably.
And LoL has already started working on several barcrafts
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=12923085

Please don't make up stuff, I don't like LoL that much either, but to shit on it or to lie about it isn't cool.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
March 05 2012 04:37 GMT
#64
He can deal fruits much better in LoL...
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
March 05 2012 04:37 GMT
#65
On March 05 2012 13:02 Neurosis wrote:
From bw to sc2 to LoL. I can't think of an easier "esport" so this has to be it for him I guess -_-


What happens if solitaire becomes an esport :o
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
March 05 2012 04:38 GMT
#66
I feel bad for him because he couldn't play at a competetive level anymore. But, at least he has found some way to keep on. Gl Fruitdealer
phANT1m
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
South Africa535 Posts
March 05 2012 04:38 GMT
#67
Guess he got to earn money somehow. Though i wonder how SC2 translates to LoL.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11602 Posts
March 05 2012 04:38 GMT
#68
On March 05 2012 13:26 eviltomahawk wrote:
First (Z)YellOw, now (Z)FruitDealer?

Makes me sad, but best of wishes to both of them.


Not only that, but Kim Carrier will be casting for LoL. I don't know, it's nice to see them continue on in and as MOBA is such a new esport, some old BW hands will bring some welcome experience.
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pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
March 05 2012 04:40 GMT
#69
On March 05 2012 13:19 Fusa wrote:
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On March 05 2012 13:08 pt wrote:
guess ill be the first to say it. in lol, you control 1 character and you have teammates. coaching would be like playing starcraft ^^


I don't understand people when they say you don't need a coach because it is a "team " sport??

everyone has a coach, professional counter strike teams/ halo teams / hockey teams, and in this context everything still applies to individual sports (swimming / badminton / ping-pong / sc2 )


i was making a joke..
EG-TL!
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
March 05 2012 04:42 GMT
#70
On March 05 2012 13:26 eviltomahawk wrote:
First (Z)YellOw, now (Z)FruitDealer?

Makes me sad, but best of wishes to both of them.


LoL, the easy alternative to code A.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 05 2012 04:42 GMT
#71
On March 05 2012 13:08 pt wrote:
guess ill be the first to say it. in lol, you control 1 character and you have teammates. coaching would be like playing starcraft ^^

Thats why the team needs a coach. Just read your sentence yourself again. You have "teammates" thats the problem. You are not 1v1, its 5v5.
Lets say you are beast-mode, killing people left and right but the other four on your team are doing some stupid shit. You still lose.

Many people on this thread seems to really look down upon LoL. Its not hard to play, I can eat my breakfast, watch some TV while play LoL. But you still needs alot of practice and skill in teamwork and decision making.

What I heard from a Korean friend, LoL is on fire in Korea right now after Riot establish KR server just a few month back. So goodluck to FD!!!
Terran
orangesunglasses
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States110 Posts
March 05 2012 04:43 GMT
#72
yeh i gota be honest i cant see a LoL coach being needed. the way the game is played everyone knows everything about everything or else you cant be good at that genre of game. its true with wow arena and basically any pvp rpg. its nice to see he found work but eh..
How you win is the only thing that matters
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
March 05 2012 04:44 GMT
#73
On March 05 2012 13:08 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 13:01 publicenemies wrote:
Those who can't play, coach.


then what team coach are you ?


Ohhhhh snap!
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 05 2012 04:44 GMT
#74
On March 05 2012 13:38 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 13:26 eviltomahawk wrote:
First (Z)YellOw, now (Z)FruitDealer?

Makes me sad, but best of wishes to both of them.


Not only that, but Kim Carrier will be casting for LoL. I don't know, it's nice to see them continue on in and as MOBA is such a new esport, some old BW hands will bring some welcome experience.

MOBAs are new to esports? I'm guessing you haven't heard of DotA then. It has been, and still is, an esport (mainly in China now, but lets be honest now they can pretty much fuel any esport they want with the resources they have).
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 04:47:50
March 05 2012 04:47 GMT
#75
On March 05 2012 13:44 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 13:38 Falling wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:26 eviltomahawk wrote:
First (Z)YellOw, now (Z)FruitDealer?

Makes me sad, but best of wishes to both of them.


Not only that, but Kim Carrier will be casting for LoL. I don't know, it's nice to see them continue on in and as MOBA is such a new esport, some old BW hands will bring some welcome experience.

MOBAs are new to esports? I'm guessing you haven't heard of DotA then. It has been, and still is, an esport (mainly in China now, but lets be honest now they can pretty much fuel any esport they want with the resources they have).


Mainstream MOBA popularity and growth is new to E-Sports. To say that DOTA has recieved anywhere near as much exposure as either DOTA2 or LoL is wrong.

It's nice that ESports can actually act as complementary goods. SC2 fans can watch LoL at tournaments, visa vi.

On topic: Grats to FruitDealer! I'll look forward to seeing his team on the pro circuit.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
March 05 2012 04:48 GMT
#76
lets see FD vs yellow!
esports
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
March 05 2012 04:49 GMT
#77
This is depressing to hear.... ... gl to Fruitdealer!
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 05 2012 04:49 GMT
#78
Let's say I wanted to be a pro at some PC game. Would LoL be a better choice than SC2? Kinda off topic but whatever.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 05 2012 04:50 GMT
#79
On March 05 2012 13:43 orangesunglasses wrote:
yeh i gota be honest i cant see a LoL coach being needed. the way the game is played everyone knows everything about everything or else you cant be good at that genre of game. its true with wow arena and basically any pvp rpg. its nice to see he found work but eh..


I don't think the coaches will focus too much on gameplay and stuff like that. Maybe a bit of strategy planning and scouting, but mainly the logistics behind the team. They have to make sure the players are organized enough to practice (scrims) and get everyone together for the offline tournaments (OGN). They're also there to calm the players down between matches since they have more stage experience (think Tyler/Huk at DH?)
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 05:01:08
March 05 2012 04:52 GMT
#80
On March 05 2012 13:35 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 13:27 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:24 Navillus wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:18 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:14 FinestHour wrote:
The LoL scene is growing at such a frightening fast pace, will definitely not be surprised to see it become as big as starcraft in korea...which made me start practicing it

thing is from what ive heard LoL doesnt have much long term viability, i think its mainly the makers who are sponsoring the tournys while Blizz has pretty much washed its hands off supporting SC2 after NASL

also with MLGs winter arena tournaments are starting to figure out how to turn a profit, Sundance has said that the winter arena is a sustainable bussiness without any sponsors (whicch i beleive is the only event in SC2 history) so to sponsors theyll look at LoL and see viewers and an industry that is gobbling up money and theyll look at SC2 and see a scene that is starting to become sustainable and start spending money over there

also i wouldnt be surprised if LoL teams are mainly springing up becuase they see big tourny prises and less that theres a huge giant viewrbase but i dont have access to any numbers here and just guessing


This is really wishful thinking, LoL has a base larger viewer base than SCII just because it's F2P, if SCII manages to ever find a model that is sustainable LoL will too and will have it better, if we don't... they still might, but if they fail with the support their getting and the much higher viewer count (and that's really what matters, the viewer count is what's going to decide how much money tournies make and whether they'll be able to float) then you can be sure that Starcraft will fail too.

lol is F2P which alot of people point at

oh look becuase its free alot of people paly it and watch it

MLG found out how to sustainable with PPV, how many people are gonna say "well if im not even willing to pay to paly the game why would i pay to watch it?"

SC2 viewerbase is growing fast, not jsut people who play the game but alot of people who dont, youll never walk into a bar and see LoL on the screen anytime soon


Um SC2's viewerbase has actually shrunk considerably.
And LoL has already started working on several barcrafts
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=12923085

Please don't make up stuff, I don't like LoL that much either, but to shit on it or to lie about it isn't cool.

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