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Indifferent_century
32 Posts
On March 05 2012 13:21 bokeevboke wrote: if you never played it, how can you judge it? Prejuduice? hes just asking a question hes not looking to mock it, sure he could of worded it better but still. | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On March 05 2012 13:12 Forikorder wrote: ya im sure BoxeR gave up his life to be a succesful SC player, i mean if he did something worthwhile he might be famous world wide made tons of money and had a hot GF and Polt, i mean he could ahve gone to a high level university or something He's talking about the 98%+ who don't make it anywhere. That said, even as a pro, very, very, very few of them actually get to the status of Boxer. On top of that, it only really matters in Korea since pro SC players are akin to professional football (soccer) players there. WhiteRa surely isn't a guy that every Ukrainian person knows and loves and looks up to. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
Fruitdealer to coach, LOL! | ||
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gladsheim
Australia676 Posts
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
On March 05 2012 13:18 Forikorder wrote: thing is from what ive heard LoL doesnt have much long term viability, i think its mainly the makers who are sponsoring the tournys while Blizz has pretty much washed its hands off supporting SC2 after NASL also with MLGs winter arena tournaments are starting to figure out how to turn a profit, Sundance has said that the winter arena is a sustainable bussiness without any sponsors (whicch i beleive is the only event in SC2 history) so to sponsors theyll look at LoL and see viewers and an industry that is gobbling up money and theyll look at SC2 and see a scene that is starting to become sustainable and start spending money over there also i wouldnt be surprised if LoL teams are mainly springing up becuase they see big tourny prises and less that theres a huge giant viewrbase but i dont have access to any numbers here and just guessing This is really wishful thinking, LoL has a base larger viewer base than SCII just because it's F2P, if SCII manages to ever find a model that is sustainable LoL will too and will have it better, if we don't... they still might, but if they fail with the support their getting and the much higher viewer count (and that's really what matters, the viewer count is what's going to decide how much money tournies make and whether they'll be able to float) then you can be sure that Starcraft will fail too. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 05 2012 13:21 bokeevboke wrote: if you never played it, how can you judge it? Prejuduice? hell coach the same way you coach SC2 you point of aprts of a palyers play you think he should improve, maybe a player is too defensive or too offensive maybe he should use a different hero or get a different item build you set your team up with practice schedules and watch them to make sure they follow through set up drills and practices show them areas they need to improve teach them to handle stress at critical moments show them ways to widen there awareness and make sure there in good physical shape | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
makes me sad inside =[ and here i was getting ready for rooting for FD at IEM WC | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
 YellOw, now FruitDealer?Makes me sad, but best of wishes to both of them. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
GL in his new endeavor, he can excel easily at MOBAs as he did in RTS. If anything, I'd say he was slightly bored with SC2, not that it was in any way "difficult" for him. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 05 2012 13:24 Navillus wrote: This is really wishful thinking, LoL has a base larger viewer base than SCII just because it's F2P, if SCII manages to ever find a model that is sustainable LoL will too and will have it better, if we don't... they still might, but if they fail with the support their getting and the much higher viewer count (and that's really what matters, the viewer count is what's going to decide how much money tournies make and whether they'll be able to float) then you can be sure that Starcraft will fail too. lol is F2P which alot of people point at oh look becuase its free alot of people paly it and watch it MLG found out how to sustainable with PPV, how many people are gonna say "well if im not even willing to pay to paly the game why would i pay to watch it?" SC2 viewerbase is growing fast, not jsut people who play the game but alot of people who dont, youll never walk into a bar and see LoL on the screen anytime soon | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
On March 05 2012 13:21 Forikorder wrote: your acting like SC2 is a dead end profession, it isnt you can win enough money to transition out of it if you really badly want to or you can go into coaching or commentating the only difference between a SC2 player and any other sport player except Chess i guess is theres less money in the SC2 community for now but with the salaries palyers make from there teams theres nothing stopping them from pursuing tertiary education There are some interviews of pro players who say that you need to invest a lot of time and effort in order to keep up with others, and still, it doesn't guarantee you get enough money for living. Polt example is kind miracle, but I think part of it is "luck". Besides, sc2 scene doesn't get many sponsors lately. And viewership is kinda going down compared to other e-sport games. That's why you see PTV tournament. Coaching/commentating might be good, but there are already people doing it. All in all, I don't think there are any incentives to stay in sc2 if you don't have enough time or you're super talented. | ||
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MegaFonzie
Australia1084 Posts
On March 05 2012 13:21 Forikorder wrote: your acting like SC2 is a dead end profession, it isnt you can win enough money to transition out of it if you really badly want to or you can go into coaching or commentating the only difference between a SC2 player and any other sport player except Chess i guess is theres less money in the SC2 community for now but with the salaries palyers make from there teams theres nothing stopping them from pursuing tertiary education It's depressing, but what they're saying is the truth. For the larger majority, sc2 is a dead end profession, mainly because there is so little money to be had for those who aren't at the very top. You don't seem to understand that for Korean pro gaming teams, there isn't a salary. They get food, accommodation, and a place to practice. That's it. They don't get money, they don't get education, they don't get anything that will give them any kind of leg up when their starcraft career is over. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On March 05 2012 13:27 Forikorder wrote: lol is F2P which alot of people point at oh look becuase its free alot of people paly it and watch it MLG found out how to sustainable with PPV, how many people are gonna say "well if im not even willing to pay to paly the game why would i pay to watch it?" SC2 viewerbase is growing fast, not jsut people who play the game but alot of people who dont, youll never walk into a bar and see LoL on the screen anytime soon I find LoL a headache and a bore to watch and play, but it does have a bigger playerbase and a bigger viewership base, primarily because the playerbase is so huge. I doubt SC2 will catch up anytime soon. Blizzard had its chance, but they crushed it (esp. in Korea). | ||
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scarper65
1560 Posts
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therockmanxx
Peru1174 Posts
Esport is changing so fast xD | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
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sour_eraser
Canada932 Posts
On March 05 2012 13:31 therockmanxx wrote: Ok so LoLis killing Bw and now LoL is killing sc2 Esport is changing so fast xD Fixed it for you. SC2 barely had impact on Korean scene. On the other hand, LoL is on fire | ||
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