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DrNebula
United States16 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:20 blade55555 wrote: This. From what I saw friday it was nice and I would pay but not 20$. well what would you be willing to pay?? a whole dollar? holy crap 20 bucks is not that much, next time call me and i'll pay for you. | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:37 xShade wrote: I don't even know what DRM stands for, so I'm probably not He means copyright / anti pirate measures (aka the reason why you always have to be logged into Bnet to play sc2, why sc2 has no lan, etc etc.) | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:41 DrNebula wrote: well what would you be willing to pay?? a whole dollar? holy crap 20 bucks is not that much, next time call me and i'll pay for you. #? Oops, double post. Well I might as well add some content to this so here goes: I paid for the weekend ($20) after watching the preview on friday. There were some technical fuck ups, but much less than I was expecting considering they don't host events on this scale at their home offices regularly. I honestly liked having adebisi and tumba, jp + wheat, and tastosis as casters. They provided 3 different levels of entertainment/analysis. People have complained about the casting but TBH this lineup was amazing. Is every event going to have Tastetosis, Bitterdam, and DayWHEAT? No, so quit bitching about it. And yes the casters did misread builds a couple of times. It's an experienced based part of casting (if you don't know exactly what they're doing you just observe - comment instead of predict-comment). The quad view was amazing. Stream quality was excellent. The low budget backdrop/background design was apparent but did not take away from the tournament at all. Little creative lighting (not expected since this is... an office). The set design and lighting design are what I would honestly want to be improved the most when they move into their new studios. However since the next arena will be their debut in that space I will probably not worry about it (for the next arena). There were only a few problems with the sound design, which I mainly noticed as an echo on the Tumba - Adebisi cast occasionally. P.S. Catz is hilarious | ||
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DrNebula
United States16 Posts
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:42 DrNebula wrote: 8675309 wait is your name Jenny | ||
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DrNebula
United States16 Posts
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:41 DrNebula wrote: well what would you be willing to pay?? a whole dollar? holy crap 20 bucks is not that much, next time call me and i'll pay for you. Add up the total amount of games a GSL season will have. Divide $15 by that number and then multiply the new number by the number of games an Arena will have. That is how much I am willing to pay. That would be between 5-6$ I believe. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:20 Myles wrote: Based on this thread and the 'how did you watch thread' it seems about 40% of TLers who watched actually paid to do so. There was about 30k max watching MLG when you take the total people watching SC2 streams minus the amount watching other SC2 streams(there were 150 SC2 streams, but only 30 or so had more then 10 viewers). Right after the crash that seemed to reset the login screen for a lot of people who were watching for free, it seemed to settle at 20k. You can make a lot of assumptions about how many casuals found the stream and it just happened to work and how the crash affected them, but I think it's more reasonable to just say they probably had between 8,000 and 12,000 subscriptions. I wouldn't consider these polls to be good samples as SD pointed out. It means shit. Lots of people found ways around it. Still I'll wait on the buyrate to come in because the unique viewers and cap are very, very unreliable in this scenario. | ||
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Moosy
Canada396 Posts
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DrNebula
United States16 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:44 JJH777 wrote: Add up the total amount of games a GSL season will have. Divide that by $15 and then multiply it by the number of games an Arena will have. That is how much I am willing to pay. That would be between 5-6$ I believe. i don't know what you're career is but i'm sure you would appreciate making a decent amount of money, Sundance is putting all the money he makes back into mlg so by paying 20 bucks your helping keep mlg around, if that's not worth not getting a good game per dollar ratio then that's fine by me, but i will still be paying 20 dollars. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:41 DrNebula wrote: well what would you be willing to pay?? a whole dollar? holy crap 20 bucks is not that much, next time call me and i'll pay for you. Will do whats your number? I'm willing to pay 10$ for 3 days but not 20. Not everyone has a super awesome make 30 grand a year job or more (which isn't even that awesome). Hell pay for my account and PM me the info, I wouldn't mind saving 20$ that can go to gas or something else if I need it. Thanks in advance! | ||
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:48 DrNebula wrote: i don't know what you're career is but i'm sure you would appreciate making a decent amount of money, Sundance is putting all the money he makes back into mlg so by paying 20 bucks your helping keep mlg around, if that's not worth not getting a good game per dollar ratio then that's fine by me, but i will still be paying 20 dollars. Paying because you felt bad for him is terrible for E-Sports. No one pays for the HD Sports channels because they feel bad for the NFL. Same with UFC or literally anything else people pay for. A business cannot work like that and honestly the fact they went for that angle when advertising the pass and during the interview with him kind of makes me not want to buy the next pass event if they do try to compare to GSL's game/dollar ratio. | ||
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steelcurtain09
United States87 Posts
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tetsuo9
Chile62 Posts
For some reason the only thing that worked great for me was vods. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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DrNebula
United States16 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:52 JJH777 wrote: Paying because you felt bad for him is terrible for E-Sports. No one pays for the HD Sports channels because they feel bad for the NFL. Same with UFC or literally anything else people pay for. A business cannot work like that and honestly the fact they went for that angle when advertising the pass and during the interview with him kind of makes me not want to buy the next pass event if they do try to compare to GSL's game/dollar ratio. wait let me re-read my post to check if i ever said i felt bad for him or mlg, nope i didn't. how come 20 bucks is 1/4 of your life savings to everyone? it's seriously less than you would spend going to a sit down restaurant or to a movie with your girlfriend | ||
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DrNebula
United States16 Posts
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:56 DrNebula wrote: wait let me re-read my post to check if i ever said i felt bad for him or mlg, nope i didn't. how come 20 bucks is 1/4 of your life savings to everyone? it's seriously less than you would spend going to a sit down restaurant or to a movie with your girlfriend I like how you don't understand why people don't wanna pay $20, and you berate people cause you think $20 is probably too much money for them. $20 isn't much at all. It's the product that you're buying with it, people don't think it's worth it. There are so many other tournaments out there and every one of them has a free stream option. What about MLG is special that it can charge $20, for less games than the GSL? | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:44 JJH777 wrote: Add up the total amount of games a GSL season will have. Divide $15 by that number and then multiply the new number by the number of games an Arena will have. That is how much I am willing to pay. That would be between 5-6$ I believe. are you going to stop paying for GSL when they raise their prices? | ||
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Big_Pete1999
United States22 Posts
I didn't and won't pay for MLG because it is too laggy, too much downtime, too cheesy (like they just want to end things ASAP), etc. While I support E-Sports (such as paying for GSL, buying other merchandise, I'm not sure I'll ever pay for MLG. Hell, even GSL lets you watch it for free if you catch it live. I know it costs money for MLG, but that's where sponsors and tickets to attend come into play. Just like other sports (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, Soccer, etc...), they are aired on tv for free, you have to buy a ticket to attend, and they make their money because of sponsors. I know MLG's stance for a PPV event was to be taken more "seriously", but honestly, I think they took 2 steps back because of the obvious alienation of their fanbase. People who don't attend live events are use to watching for free, so if they want E-Sports to be taken as seriously as other sports, they need to follow their recipe for success (sponsors, paid admission, free stream). It makes more sense to have people pay for VODs than it does to pay to stream it live. I'll continue to subscribe to GSL because I can't watch it live, therefor, relying on VODs, just like I'll continue to pay for my NFL season tickets, but I don't think I'll ever pay for MLG to watch it stream live. That recipe just doesn't make any sense. | ||
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