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farside604
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada127 Posts
February 27 2012 03:58 GMT
#21
I only caught a couple matches on the last day but had I known about MLG I think 20 dollars would have been a bit much even for the whole thing.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 27 2012 03:59 GMT
#22
Maybe if I can't get it free. Couple other things wrong though.

Casting I am becoming less and less impressed with the tastosis combo compared to more professional people arriving on the scene. I'm 19 and think they are too juvenile and bias, somethings wrong with that. Artosis analysis is still top notch and nicks like your cool uncle with the raspy voice, but seriously there are things they can improve upon.

Live Audiance. Players looked like they where in a funeral home to me. Live Audience get me hyped and them hyped.

Couple things right you missed. Format. I think it's the best format around and unique. Losing one set and you still get a second chance to prove your worth, abeit crippled. That's okay and fair. Great merit based pre qualification system.
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ckunkel1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States181 Posts
February 27 2012 04:01 GMT
#23
Well worth the 20 dollars. I don't think anyone can question that. It was the 32 of the top 50 players in the world. Very good quality, great games, great content, and great casters. Cannot wait for the next one and big ups to Sundance for having the balls to do this and knowing that the community would rip him to shreds. It in the end it was the right thing to do imo, for the growth of esports.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
February 27 2012 04:04 GMT
#24
On February 27 2012 12:41 Jibba wrote:
I'll be waiting for the caster information before deciding. It just didn't live up to my expectations. On the whole, I thought Assembly's casting was much better. Much of the casting added very little to the games, and some of it made the games annoying to watch. I used mute more than I usually do.

The production quality was very good, but I wouldn't say it was excellent. The cast of players was incredible, but it actually seemed like there was less player coverage than usual. I think there was just one and sometimes two interviews for many (not all) of the players, which is a lot less extra coverage than I expected, given it took place in MLG's office and they had extra streams all the time.

The streaming interface and JTV definitely had issues as well, although I'm not sure how strongly that factors into my decision.


This has already been the biggest issue for me - amateur casting. I have complete respect and support for community casters learning the ropes and testing their wings in free streams. But MLG needs to have a standard when it is part of the 'product' they're selling.

I don't want to watch bronze league players, I don't want to listen to bronze league casters.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 27 2012 04:14 GMT
#25
You know I could pick apart the casters one by one, but I'm not going to do that. They all have their weaknesses and strengths. You can never please everyone. If they ever want feedback or pointers. I'll just throw them a PM.

To answer the other question.

1) Barcraft.
2) No, the games were great and other than the nice layout I had a lot of other tech issues.
3) Too many alternatives.

But, hey if they can find success with it more power to them. I'm still reserved on calling it success until I find out their actual buyrate.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
February 27 2012 04:16 GMT
#26
I subscribed this time but won`t next time because there will be even more arena events and I can`t keep paying 20 each time...way too costly and apparently you can watch it for free.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7230 Posts
February 27 2012 04:18 GMT
#27
I wouldn't subscribe to the next Arena event. The people who paid for this event essentially got ripped off since the stream was available for free because of technical difficulties.
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
February 27 2012 04:19 GMT
#28
too much money! I subscribed this time tho.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 27 2012 04:20 GMT
#29
On February 27 2012 12:47 Angel_ wrote:
Yes, if it's not $20.

If we're moving into a model where e-sports charges for the event/season/whatever, MLG has definitely demonstrated that their product is worth paying for (and still needs improvement, always), however...it's not worth $20.


This. From what I saw friday it was nice and I would pay but not 20$.
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GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
February 27 2012 04:20 GMT
#30
On February 27 2012 13:18 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I wouldn't subscribe to the next Arena event. The people who paid for this event essentially got ripped off since the stream was available for free because of technical difficulties.


I don't feel ripped off when I buy a game or a movie when I could have pirated it, and I don't feel I got ripped off just because some people were able to watch the Arena for free.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
February 27 2012 04:20 GMT
#31
On February 27 2012 13:14 StarStruck wrote:
You know I could pick apart the casters one by one, but I'm not going to do that. They all have their weaknesses and strengths. You can never please everyone. If they ever want feedback or pointers. I'll just throw them a PM.

To answer the other question.

1) Barcraft.
2) No, the games were great and other than the nice layout I had a lot of other tech issues.
3) Too many alternatives.

But, hey if they can find success with it more power to them. I'm still reserved on calling it success until I find out their actual buyrate.

Based on this thread and the 'how did you watch thread' it seems about 40% of TLers who watched actually paid to do so. There was about 30k max watching MLG when you take the total people watching SC2 streams minus the amount watching other SC2 streams(there were 150 SC2 streams, but only 30 or so had more then 10 viewers). Right after the crash that seemed to reset the login screen for a lot of people who were watching for free, it seemed to settle at 20k.

You can make a lot of assumptions about how many casuals found the stream and it just happened to work and how the crash affected them, but I think it's more reasonable to just say they probably had between 8,000 and 12,000 subscriptions.
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xShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada52 Posts
February 27 2012 04:20 GMT
#32
No. It was easy to watch for free, so I don't see why I would bother paying for it.
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how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
February 27 2012 04:21 GMT
#33
On February 27 2012 13:20 xShade wrote:
No. It was easy to watch for free, so I don't see why I would bother paying for it.


I wonder if you're one of the nerds that complain about DRM being unnecessary.
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
February 27 2012 04:22 GMT
#34
So now we have a precedent for PPV tournaments. Thank you MLG! Ill never buy a subscription.
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Amaterasu1234
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
February 27 2012 04:26 GMT
#35
Didn't have money this time around...but next time...I'm going to watch most of mlg!
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
February 27 2012 04:28 GMT
#36
The Arena should take more of a Homestory cup setup b.c it is located in the MLG office. Half the casters were annoying simply because of there lack of knowledge about basic opening or extremely common all-ins. If they lower the price to $10 then 100% ill buy the next one- other wise no- not at all
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Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
February 27 2012 04:28 GMT
#37
No, I will not be subscribing to the next MLG Arena for $20, and yes, I did watch Winter 2012 through MLG's site for free. I personally find $20 to be too much. That's my personal opinion. I support the growth of e-sports but I find MLG's decision to implement this PPV system for that particular price isn't worth for me.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 04:30:06
February 27 2012 04:29 GMT
#38
On February 27 2012 12:33 KadaverBB wrote:
Definately, best 20 bucks i ever spent


You've apparently never bought GSL.

No I will never pay $20 for an Arena event. They need to at least equal Gom's price in games/dollar for me to even consider it. Since GSL has well over twice the games that would be like 5.00 maybe a little more.
xShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada52 Posts
February 27 2012 04:37 GMT
#39
On February 27 2012 13:21 how2TL wrote:

I wonder if you're one of the nerds that complain about DRM being unnecessary.


I don't even know what DRM stands for, so I'm probably not
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 27 2012 04:38 GMT
#40
I would for $5-$10 but $20 is too much imo.
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