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On February 27 2012 04:37 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:32 Bagration wrote:On February 27 2012 02:49 Gator wrote:
definitely think that HuK should not get a Code S seed for at least 1 season after his terrible showing in GSL. maybe Stephano or Nani i guess MMA got a Code S seed from MLG right after he was knocked into Code B. Same with MC. Code A is a very unforgiving tournament, and losing one Bo3 should not be an instant disqualification. Look at the number of times Naniwa and Sase were given in Code A even though they were repeatedly knocked out in the first round (by the way, I do hope the two of them continue to participate in the GSL). Only Sase was invited once. Naniwa qualified through the MLG Exchange numerous times and Sase qualified through MLG and the Swedish "Road to Korea" tournament.
Sase received 2 seeds. He played in GSL August and October. Unless you meant he got one seed through Road to Korea and then was invited once without winning it directly by coming in second at CPL to Marineking
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I doubt HuK or Polt will get a seed because they just fell out of code A. I'm thinking viOLet will probably get one but I don't know about the other one.
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I really think Polt should have a seed. I don't know who else acually deserves it though i would like to see Naniwa in Code S
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On February 27 2012 06:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 04:37 00Visor wrote:On February 27 2012 03:32 Bagration wrote:On February 27 2012 02:49 Gator wrote:
definitely think that HuK should not get a Code S seed for at least 1 season after his terrible showing in GSL. maybe Stephano or Nani i guess MMA got a Code S seed from MLG right after he was knocked into Code B. Same with MC. Code A is a very unforgiving tournament, and losing one Bo3 should not be an instant disqualification. Look at the number of times Naniwa and Sase were given in Code A even though they were repeatedly knocked out in the first round (by the way, I do hope the two of them continue to participate in the GSL). Only Sase was invited once. Naniwa qualified through the MLG Exchange numerous times and Sase qualified through MLG and the Swedish "Road to Korea" tournament. Sase received 2 seeds. He played in GSL August and October. Unless you meant he got one seed through Road to Korea and then was invited once without winning it directly by coming in second at CPL to Marineking
Sase got 3 seeds. One was an invite due to CPL.
The other 2 were qualifications through MLG and Road to Korea.
GOM isnt just deliberately giving seeds to Naniwa and Sase. Despite one invite for Sase they qualified.
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Stephano is definitively receiving one of these two spots. I have the feeling HuK might get the other one due to his 3rd place finish.
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Violet should get one seed he has a major tourney win and a strong showing at mlg arena second could go to any number of players I would say it will be Ret huk or polt. I would think one will go to a foreigner and gom might want a new face rather then give huk his seed right back
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give it to polt!!!! he is the most deserving and has the best shot in code S. also looks better than everyone else mentioned, and looks matter more than anything else here
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Since seeds aren't just for foreigners any longer I think Polt and Naniwa (Even though HuK made it further than him at MLG, I personally was more impressed with Nanis run).
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I feel that demuslim's run should earn him a code a spot at least.
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It will be really disappointing if Polt doesn't get it. Look at his run through Assembly, IPL4 & NASL qualifiers and the players he beat to get there. Inca, Hero x2, Creator, TheStC, Bomber, Taeja, Lucky, Slush, Catz, and Stephano. I don't think anyone else up for the seed has qualifications the same as his.
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I still think it should go to a foreigner, for marketing purposes.
Nobody is going to watch for Polt or Violet; it wouldn't be decisive of your choice whether or not to watch.
On the other hand, some foreigners may find having Kas there or some other hardworking foreigner as enough reason to watch the GSL instead of some other fun thing.
Which players add viewers? That's the important question.
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I do definitely think Polt should get one. Since there's not a clear number two, I'd say give it to Stephano. When he declines, they can give it to anyone else without criticism. Make that person Naniwa to make up for their terrible communication in the Blizzard Cup incident, and they'll be swimming in goodwill.
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Violet for sure and Huk would be my second guess. Polt also but it feels weird giving him a seed. Rightt Stephano might be an option too, even ahead of Huk, though I don't think he'd take it.
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There's not a lot of downside to inviting Stephano. If he doesn't accept, there are other equally-deserving players. If he does, you have easily the highest-profile foreign player you could have in the GSL.
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On February 26 2012 20:29 Yaki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 20:29 Grovbolle wrote:
To pull in some foreigner money I guess that Stephano for instance (2nd in ROG and lots of good performances) could be a candidate
And fan favorites like Ret (did well in WB in MLG, vs MVP and other great players)..
I think giving HuK a seed would be a bit anticlimax as he has just lost his. As far as I know, Stephano isn't willing to return to korea.
This, same for White-Ra. People need to stop mentioning them alrdy.
On February 27 2012 10:05 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
There's not a lot of downside to inviting Stephano. If he doesn't accept, there are other equally-deserving players. If he does, you have easily the highest-profile foreign player you could have in the GSL.
Lol worthy indeed. Not saying Idra or HuK or better, but they are definitely more well known than Stephano. Heck Incontrol is more well known.
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Polt's ROG run:
(Group stage)
2-0 Phoenix
2-1 TLO
0-2 BlinG
(Bracket)
2-1 Taeja
2-0 HerO
3-1 Lucky
4-1 Stephano
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... Yeah. If this guy doesn't deserve a seed, I don't know who does.
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On February 27 2012 10:05 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 20:29 Yaki wrote:On February 26 2012 20:29 Grovbolle wrote:
To pull in some foreigner money I guess that Stephano for instance (2nd in ROG and lots of good performances) could be a candidate
And fan favorites like Ret (did well in WB in MLG, vs MVP and other great players)..
I think giving HuK a seed would be a bit anticlimax as he has just lost his. As far as I know, Stephano isn't willing to return to korea. This, same for White-Ra. People need to stop mentioning them alrdy. Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:05 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
There's not a lot of downside to inviting Stephano. If he doesn't accept, there are other equally-deserving players. If he does, you have easily the highest-profile foreign player you could have in the GSL. Lol worthy indeed. Not saying Idra or HuK or better, but they are definitely more well known than Stephano. Heck Incontrol is more well known.
Stephano not accepting could be a good thing, depending on how Gom wants to handle the situation.
Think about it; if he accepts, they get a high-profile foreign player. If he doesn't, they have the opportunity to offer to that to whoever they want with the cover of 'Stephano declined and we had to find a replacement.' That justification can be used to invite damn near anyone.
Edit to cover your edit:
You misunderstand. It's not about being well-known. Huk and Idra have been in GSL before. They've had runs, they've gotten knocked out early... it's fair to say they have a lot of history with that particular tournament.
Stephano, though... He's clearly very skilled. He's also not especially respectful of Korea's place as the pinnacle of Starcraft. He's on record saying that he's not interested in going back there because he learned everything he could and can learn more in Europe. He comes across as a pretty arrogant guy (IMO) and that's an angle that can create a TON of drama and hype for GSL. He'd be new, he'd be the bad boy, the guy every Korean wants to take out, and he's the best foreign player who hasn't already competed and lost. That's a situation that creates drama and hype, which will turn into viewership.
And again. If he declines, then GSL can invite Taeja (or whoever) and when everyone goes "OMG TAEJA? WHY TAEJA?", they can say "well, Stephano declined and we had to find a substitute on short notice. That meant we had to invite a Korean and Taeja was the best choice." Or whatever justification for whoever they need. Could be used to provide cover for a potentially controversial invite.
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I wish Grubby would go to Korea.
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Some combination of Polt, Violet and MKP is really the only acceptable answer now.
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