EPTI would consider 10, I would watch the entire weekend's livestream and provide whatever ad revenue from me being a viewer, but 20 dollars cash on something that isn't a date or something I have to buy for life/school isn't my idea of a plan.
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
I would consider 10, I would watch the entire weekend's livestream and provide whatever ad revenue from me being a viewer, but 20 dollars cash on something that isn't a date or something I have to buy for life/school isn't my idea of a plan. | ||
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UNeeK
United States237 Posts
Not only that, but my wife would look at me like I'm crazy if i told her i was dropping 20$ to watch some guys play video games. Sure, I understand it, I have passion for it, but she has no clue what the hell that purple stuff all over the map even is... She just won't be supportive and my family and wife being happy is more important to me than some greedy esports company, to put it bluntly... The simple fact that there isn't a free or lower cost package (like LQ for 5-10$) blows my mind... I don't even watch events in HD because my bandwidth is junk most of the time... I'm sure i'm not the only one who opts for lower quality to enjoy a lagless event. MLG is making a big big mistake, I don't see this benefitting anyone but themselves. They put out a referral program, which is cool but don't take it as they're trying to help teams out - in the end they're only trying to help themselves and using teams as their salesman... Sure you'll get a cut, but the simple fact is you're just being used as a tool for MLG to make more profits. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
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baby elephant
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how2TL
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krisss
Luxembourg305 Posts
On February 14 2012 16:00 tdt wrote: I doubt I'd even pay $10. It's a terrible value proposition compared to what's out there. And my charity is reserved for those less fortunate. It's kinda sad people in business even asking for it. i agree. The only ones getting money for SC2 are GSL and Homestory Cup. Paying 20 bucks for an event held in the US at crazy times (for EU) ist just pathetic. I might watch 1-4 games max, which would be 5 dollars for 1 BO3. hahahaha forget it. gg no re. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On February 14 2012 16:05 a9arnn wrote: Well the arena isn't a Pro Circuit event, it's an offline qualifier of sorts to precede the main event of Cbus (Seeing as the event's not open to the public/etc.). This is incorrect. Check my last post above. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/the-first-details-about-the-mlg-2012-pro-circuit "The 2012 MLG Pro Circuit will be made up of four distinct Seasons, each with their own Live Championship Event." The four season represent the 2012 Pro Circuit. And the winter Qualifiers are part of the season, and thus part of the Circuit. MLG would not have changed their language regarding what Gold Members recieve had this not been the case. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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SC2.PiXL
United States35 Posts
I keep seeing this production value and stream quality complaints come up. Keep in mind, this tournament will be taking place at MLG studios, not a convention center that they have for a week. The production and stream quality should be much better for the Arena's compared to what we saw on the pro circuit due to it being in a fixed location. I totally agree:D:D good thought:D:D <3!! | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
In this interview, the MLG Winter Arena Online Qualifiers, MLG Winter Arena, and MLG Winter Championship are all referred to as part of the 2012 Pro Circuit. In all previous mentions of the Winter Arena (bar the initial mention of prize pools being separate from the Championship Events) no differentiation was made between the Winter Arena and Winter Championship as far as the Pro Circuit is concerned. I think MLG should have announced this either: a) With the announcement of the new 2012 Pro Circuit [and Arenas, since apparently they are not part of the Pro Circuit] or b) With the re-vamp of the MLG Subscription Program. Everything about this just screams "exploitation through misinformation" in my mind. | ||
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RajaF
Canada530 Posts
On February 14 2012 16:10 jmbthirteen wrote: I keep seeing this production value and stream quality complaints come up. Keep in mind, this tournament will be taking place at MLG studios, not a convention center that they have for a week. The production and stream quality should be much better for the Arena's compared to what we saw on the pro circuit due to it being in a fixed location. This also means that production costs should be way lower, which is just another argument as to why this is too expensive. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
However, when GSL is a similar price for 3 months of competition (which starts at 10pm my time, perfect for after diner till bedtime viewing) how can i justify spending 20$ over 1 weekend, especially when im not very well off at all. I echo Alex's sentiments that if they had a cheaper ticket, they would get more money. And also its not just about money, if youre making the same income off 10$ tickets, that means your viewership increased by 200% from the discounted price (and lets be honest sponsors, of MLG and teams, dont care how much MLG charges, they care how many viewers show up.) | ||
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
On February 14 2012 16:08 BronzeKnee wrote: This is incorrect. Check my last post above. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/the-first-details-about-the-mlg-2012-pro-circuit "The 2012 MLG Pro Circuit will be made up of four distinct Seasons, each with their own Live Championship Event." The four season represent the 2012 Pro Circuit. And the winter Qualifiers are part of the season, and thus part of the Circuit. MLG would not have changed their language regarding what Gold Members recieve had this not been the case. "The 2012 MLG Pro Circuit will be made up of four distinct Seasons, each with their own Live Championship Event." It states each season contains 1 live championship event, right? Nothing more, nothing less. Just the live event if I'm reading correctly. | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
On February 14 2012 16:08 BronzeKnee wrote: This is incorrect. Check my last post above. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/the-first-details-about-the-mlg-2012-pro-circuit "The 2012 MLG Pro Circuit will be made up of four distinct Seasons, each with their own Live Championship Event." The four season represent the 2012 Pro Circuit. And the winter Qualifiers are part of the season, and thus part of the Circuit. MLG would not have changed their language regarding what Gold Members recieve had this not been the case. Even if this is true encouraging people to chargeback is going to do more harm than good most likely. If a large volume of chargebacks occur on a vendor then the bank they are with is levied fines due to being associated with that vendor. The bank then usually passes those directly on to the vendor including in some cases adding a fine per chargeback that occurs afterwards. Basically if people do what you are proposing it is more likely to directly harm MLG than it is to make them change their mind on the pricing. How about you give them time to respond to feedback first? | ||
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SC2.PiXL
United States35 Posts
This also means that production costs should be way lower, which is just another argument as to why this is too expensive. But if this is better, shouldn't people pay for better production...??? **Just a thought, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing btw:D** | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
On February 14 2012 16:11 VirgilSC2 wrote: Just to put some things in perspective, I did a little digging back, and there was NOTHING that would lead anyone to believe MLG's Winter Arena was NOT part of the "2012 Pro Circuit" In this interview, the MLG Winter Arena Online Qualifiers, MLG Winter Arena, and MLG Winter Championship are all referred to as part of the 2012 Pro Circuit. In all previous mentions of the Winter Arena (bar the initial mention of prize pools being separate from the Championship Events) no differentiation was made between the Winter Arena and Winter Championship as far as the Pro Circuit is concerned. I think MLG should have announced this either: a) With the announcement of the new 2012 Pro Circuit [and Arenas, since apparently they are not part of the Pro Circuit] or b) With the re-vamp of the MLG Subscription Program. Everything about this just screams "exploitation through misinformation" in my mind. Well guess how many gold memberships they would have sold if everyone knew? Not many. There's ways to do business, let's see how this goes. | ||
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drumsetjunky
United States136 Posts
But for $20 for ONE weekend this better be the most polished SC stream ever even conceived...It better make GSL look like ****!!!! lol | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
I've also edited my post in the other thread to include a new poll if you would like to vote on that, cross-posting it here. | ||
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
On February 14 2012 15:10 Bowzer wrote: As a disgruntled gold member, I will be doing option C. For me it isn't about the 20 dollars, I spent 20 dollars on supper tonight. It's the principle of how Sundance convinced us that buying gold memberships was helping pro players and e-sports, and that we'd see big things this year depending on the amount of gold subscribers they got. Also, I don't see how going PPV at this juncture is going to grow the sport. Thanks for the support Alex! That still holds. They wanted to know how many people they could sucker into buying Gold. Now they know (ie. a lot), so they're trying something else. | ||
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