EPTI wouldn't pay $10 for it, but I might pay $5.
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
I wouldn't pay $10 for it, but I might pay $5. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
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talontromper
United States258 Posts
As a result of paying for the gold ticket for 30$ if nothing else that money should go toward the PPV. This is only if the members so choose, if they (and myself) don't like the idea possibly Sundance could return a portion of the money. Either way I shall most likely be buying a ticket because i want to see the players that I cheer for play. P.S. Thanks for all you do Sundance, I wanna see E-sports continue as a business and a lifestyle. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On February 15 2012 06:42 Brootalbro wrote: I guess EG isn't so Evil after all  Yeah. its funny. Its time for Evil Liquid. There was no info about Tl and the Mlg referal system... kind of make me wonder what is tl official stance on it. The unofficial is Tyler posting that Gsl is a joke and everyone should watch mlg arena in the other thread | ||
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ParkwayDrive
United States328 Posts
either sundance mans up and actually makes a quality product or he goes out of business forever | ||
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coolcor
520 Posts
EG’s been getting a lot of questions about the situation, and I’d like to clarify our stance on some of the issues. Why isn’t EG part of the MLG referral program for the Winter Arena? Who are all these people asking questions and how do they know what you are doing with the referral program? We haven't had the time to see anybody do anything as part of the program. Do you have a list of who is part of it and who is not? Before going into why we declined, I’d actually like to applaud Sundance, Lee, and everyone at MLG for a moment, because they took action and proactively composed a revenue-sharing program of sorts, which is the kind of thing that we desperately need to exist between teams and tournaments in this industry. But if the tournaments are struggling so much wouldn't the industry desperately need the revenue share to go from the teams to the tournaments not the other way around? It is in your own best interest to not let them fail even if you have to sacrifice some of your own revenue because if they do you will lose at lot more right? Are the big teams successful enough that they could afford this or are they all unsustainable as well? (LordJerith saying you make 2 million a year implies that they are successful enough but who knows) | ||
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esotericc
449 Posts
On February 15 2012 08:15 ParkwayDrive wrote: this poll shows not that the sc2 community is cheap (it may be, it doesnt show that its not cheap i will say) all it shows is that mlg delivers one of the poorest products on the market and having an economics degree i for one would love to see this community get together and make one of two things happen by not giving into this greed either sundance mans up and actually makes a quality product or he goes out of business forever I have 20$, hell I just odered a 25$ lunch for when I get my break at work, the fact is I just don't think starcraft 2 and MLG are worth it and I don't want to support them on this. I don't think this is helping esports grow at all and I don't want to support the business model of ludacris PPV prices that will slowly go up if people just blindly accept it. I think most people fall under the boat of just not wanting to support this time of pay model for whatever reason. | ||
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Trealador
United States207 Posts
On February 15 2012 08:19 esotericc wrote: I have 20$, hell I just odered a 25$ lunch for when I get my break at work, the fact is I just don't think starcraft 2 and MLG are worth it and I don't want to support them on this. I don't think this is helping esports grow at all and I don't want to support the business model of ludacris PPV prices that will slowly go up if people just blindly accept it. I think most people fall under the boat of just not wanting to support this time of pay model for whatever reason. I said it from day 1. As soon as MLG gets a board of directors, Sundance will be out the door so fast. This is just further evidence that proves my position. I 100% agree with 20$ being within my means, but way too expensive for is it still one tournament? Give out some sick packages for the year. 30-45$ for the entire year of MLG in high quality. Considering you could still get 2-3 months of entertainment from an MMO for around 40$ (which people play daily) I honestly don't see this as a crazy price range. If you say you need to charge 20$ per event to cover the costs and barely make a profit, then perhaps its time to take a step back and re-examine the fact that esports isn't ready for what you are offering. I watch Starcraft to improve and find it entertaining at the same time, I can get this from streams or watching Day9 or other such commentators (all free). How do you justify this? Maybe this another play out of Blizzards playbook? Charge and obsene price (Lets nerf ghosts snipe to 25) so that when we suggest 10$ (ok, snipe is 50 -20 to massive) we all accept it as a fair enough compromise. This is quite simply bad business. | ||
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ddrddrddrddr
1344 Posts
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Impulzer
United States2 Posts
I don't really care about paying 10$ for an event, but the thing that gets me mad is that they changed gold member ship on me. When I bought gold, during MLG Championship, I thought I would get the full six event next year. At the time there wasn't news about the new format. Now with the announcement I only get 4 events and have to pay an extra 15$ for each other event. They don't even let the gold members view the first arena for free, and then the next event charge them 10$ for the pass. I think MLG could really improve business and make everyone happy if they lowered the price to 10$ and fixed their membership system were we didn't have to buy a pass each event instead it would be added into a monthly or yearly price. This is better than what they're doing now. | ||
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FoeHamr
United States489 Posts
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BrahCJ
Australia659 Posts
If MLG were to drop their price to $10, they would be at least $6000+ richer for it, not to mention the more revenue they would bring in from sponsors. I hope the polls get more and more votes to make it more clear. $20 for 3 days hold very little value. More so considering that most games happen between 10pm and 10am. In the past I have gone to bed early, set the alarm for 4am, and watched half of each day. For me to do that, AND pay $20? Nope nope nope. MLG have always prided themselves on VIEWER EXPERIENCE, and for good reason. Their events are amazing. What would I want to see in order to get $20 from me? 1) Viewer sync. Allow unique web addresses so I can share a code with a friend, and whatever time-line I'm watching on the PVR stream, my friend gets auto sync'd up. This should work in conjunction with...... 2) A "Skip to next game/match" button. A "Spoiler free skip" would mean I would be able to watch the 10pm - 10am games IN FULL from 4am - 10pm. 3) An app for the playstation store, or a Samsung Apps app, that'll work straight on my TV. If I am paying top-dollar I think it is only fair to expect the bar to be raised. If Assembly can offer me great players and HD for free, I want something for that $20 that other people just can't give. | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
$20 bucks is also too high. NASL offers months of content for the same price. GSL's AoL which lasts approximately as long as MLG Arena costs a quarter of that amount (4.99). Granted, it has fewer players and games, though. I think $10, like Alex suggests, is a great price point. 20 is too high. | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
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Defury
Germany206 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:17 KevinIX wrote: I really like the freemium model as well. SC2 has traditionally been Free to watch. Every tournament in the world has a Free stream. Because SC2 was built ground up via the Freemium model, suddenly turning it into a PPV model is going to severely cut into the viewership numbers. That's my biggest concern.. $20 bucks is also too high. NASL offers months of content for the same price. GSL's AoL which lasts approximately as long as MLG Arena costs a quarter of that amount (4.99). Granted, it has fewer players and games, though. I think $10, like Alex suggests, is a great price point. 20 is too high. This is true as well, I don't play Sc2 so if they start removing free streams I will just watch league of legends instead. I will gladly pay a small amount to support a tournament ONLY if they offer a free stream as well, then I am helping the tournament and the scene grow, once they remove that free low quality stream I feel they are doing nothing to grow the sport and instead are 100% concerned with their own bottom line and esports just is not in a place for that type of business policy. | ||
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
Now I'm just pissed and I will definitely not be spending any money at all ever again for MLG. There're just enough good/better tournaments out there with much better cost efficiancy. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:35 Defury wrote: This is true as well, I don't play Sc2 so if they start removing free streams I will just watch league of legends instead. I will gladly pay a small amount to support a tournament ONLY if they offer a free stream as well, then I am helping the tournament and the scene grow, once they remove that free low quality stream I feel they are doing nothing to grow the sport and instead are 100% concerned with their own bottom line and esports just is not in a place for that type of business policy. The bottom line is relevant in EVERY business. The millions invested in MLG weren't for charity. Regardless, as stated before, I think twenty is friggin' ridiculous. | ||
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
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Kar98
Australia924 Posts
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