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Please DISCUSS the changes and the impact they will have on gameplay. Straight up whining and bitching will get you a ban, no exceptions. | ||
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archonOOid
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Vindicare605
United States16122 Posts
Other changes I guess are ok, but now I feel as though Gold bases are actually disadvantageous for Terrans in general because we cannot use our macro mechanic on it while meanwhile the other two races can continue to use their increased worker production to benefit. I dunno. I think Removing Gold bases completely would make better sense. | ||
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Unhallowed
Canada171 Posts
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:56 Derez wrote: Ah yes. Because certain aspects of T in the past might have been OP, T should now be nerfed into the ground so the other races can catch up on the prizemoney. That's a concept of gamebalance I'm sure we can all get behind. Not to mention all of that prize money was won by a few players, namely Puma who was just a big fish in a small pond in the NASLs/Dreamhacks, MVP and MMA who are almost universally regarded as the best players regardless of race (MVP's Zerg is beastly, btw). One could argue that guys like MKP and Polt wouldn't be as strong, but that's a totally weak argument that can't be supported by anything empirical or otherwise. | ||
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Gator
United States3432 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
IMO, a better change is making that range upgrade just +1 (5) and Fleet Beacon a bit cheaper. I don't agree with the ghost change at all as TvZ already felt like a race against time and ghosts had a huge role in giving terrans a late game chance to win. I guess it's time to stop playing random and just manually choose between P and Z. Bringing back the Classic APM is good. | ||
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Xova
United States342 Posts
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ApocAlypsE007
Israel1007 Posts
As for the CPM/APM, more options are always welcome, but I think the CPM is not an accurate measurement tool compared to SC2Gears EAPM. The Phoenix change is very interesting and while it helps vs mass Mutas it does require skill to pull off and it is a step in the right direction. It will be interesting how this will rebound in other directions (viable late game stargate play in PvP?? PvT Stargate play??) The MULE change is necessary for ladder, much less for tournaments where they no longer use gold patches (at least not in the GSL) | ||
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eighteen8
105 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:54 Roxy wrote: not sure what he is talking about either. blue line is still on top http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS yeah, maybe pros can deal with this...but how about casual players? terran again nerfed. :/ looking at terran distribution they are least played race already. bad move blizzard, trying to balance a game against casual players. | ||
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weiliem
2073 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8263 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:57 mvtaylor wrote: As the line is a moving average. Look at the bars for January The only reason terran isn't on top in the "summary" is because zerg has a whopping 60% winratio vs toss. If you look closely you'll see that in reality, terran still has a higher winratio vs both zerg and toss. | ||
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Solo Terran
367 Posts
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blinkingangels
105 Posts
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hotsuma
Brazil56 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:54 RogerChillingworth wrote: make a maruader or two. you'll have 3/3 by then, to boot. Hahahaha, you have some really strong marauder micro, one or 2 marauders and you will be fine? pls post some replay to teach us | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:46 mvtaylor wrote: there are plenty more "data points" if you could be bothered to use the drop down box. Every patch since 1.3.0 has had a reduction in the number of people playing Terran from the last patch in every league except Bronze and GM. If it wasn't for the fact Morrow totally lucked out with two nukes on Broodlords up to that point the game would never have reached 41 minutes. It's a bit easier to make a few ghosts and get nuke and cloak than to get mass ravens and the upgrades. What's your point? If you think that patch changes influence race distribution in leagues, then congrats on your amazing discovery, I was only talking about forum behavior. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:59 archonOOid wrote: those terrans who are mad at blizz remember that terran has never been under 50% winrate in the tvz matchup. there is still marauders against ultralisks and vikings against broodlords. With this in mind terran needs to learn to scout in the late game and choose either one of those units instead of just massing out on ghosts. You can't look into his eggs ..... , Scan is good but not that good .... | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:59 archonOOid wrote: those terrans who are mad at blizz remember that terran has never been under 50% winrate in the tvz matchup. there is still marauders against ultralisks and vikings against broodlords. With this in mind terran needs to learn to scout in the late game and choose either one of those units instead of just massing out on ghosts. Ok, I scan Greater Spier, I make Vikings -> I SOMEHOW kill Infestors/Broodlords/Corruptors -> Zerg makes 200 Ultras -> I lose.. Can you help me? | ||
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
Story of SC2 so far | ||
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:01 ApocAlypsE007 wrote: Does snipe take Armor+Shield into consideration? If not so it is actually a buff against toss as ghosts will snipe Zealots in 3 shot instead of 4. Other than that, I think it is a good change to otherwise very balanced TvZ. As for the CPM/APM, more options are always welcome, but I think the CPM is not an accurate measurement tool compared to SC2Gears EAPM. The Phoenix change is very interesting and while it helps vs mass Mutas it does require skill to pull off and it is a step in the right direction. It will be interesting how this will rebound in other directions (viable late game stargate play in PvP?? PvT Stargate play??) The MULE change is necessary for ladder, much less for tournaments where they no longer use gold patches (at least not in the GSL) Zealots aren't psionic. So right now, it takes 7 snipes to take out one zealot. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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