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RogerChillingworth
2975 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:54 architecture wrote: Do you understand what math is? What is the difference between the two? well the current change makes it worse vs banes, but tht's about it. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:54 sAsImre wrote: you 2shot infest /w 2ghosts and a brain. it's something totally retarded and random like most things blizz do balance wise. Yes, but now it's much easier/you can pull it off with just one ghost. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:49 ceaRshaf wrote: Do you guys realize how much prize money terrans got prior to all these patches with the maybe op race? Now it's looking bad for them because they were kinda spoiled with lots of candies, and now blizzard is talking them back since the other races didn't have them. So the terrans feel that they come short in sweets but it's actually getting more even between the brother races. Ah yes. Because certain aspects of T in the past might have been OP, T should now be nerfed into the ground so the other races can catch up on the prizemoney. That's a concept of gamebalance I'm sure we can all get behind. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:54 architecture wrote: Do you understand what math is? What is the difference between the two? Time, obviously. Try logic instead of math. | ||
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Sianos
580 Posts
Even so, the changes are ok Mules are really OP on gold expandtions. Imo they should just remove all gold expandtions from the game. I can´t understand, why the Ghost got nerfed aggain.. It was already quite hard for Non Pro Player to fight aggainst BL/Infestor. I think they should just add a way that nobody can bind casts on mousewheel. That would helped too and wouldn´t be a kick in the as for the Non pro players. The Protoss buff doesn´t concern me that much, because i´m terran  But the latest PvZ games i saw was that Protoss got better and better at defending Muta herrass. The most common mistake nearly every protoss player is doing is they attack at the wrong time and loose a lot of their army, when they aren´t maxed or at 165 supply at least. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:35 Zaixer wrote: Fuck this, im done with WoL. TvP is unwinnable late game and now TvZ is the same. I want to play macro games but blizzard does everything in its power to stop me. We might see a comeback of mech in the expansion but until then it is just useless to do anything but all in every game as terran. Warning; This post contains things that are objectively untrue. Pro scene, terran macro games, winning, not impossible. This shit is so obvious that I can't be bothered to type in full sentences. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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Mrvoodoochild1
United States1439 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:54 architecture wrote: Do you understand what math is? What is the difference between the two? What is math? Please elaborate on this concept. | ||
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3684 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:54 Everlong wrote: Gimme D3 so I can enjoy playing something worthwhile.. On February 11 2012 03:53 Zeetox wrote: Nerf Terran more. Now what.... I make Vikings to counter Brood Lords, then Zerg switches to Ultra and I'm f'd up... Looks like David Kim is playing Zerg :F On February 11 2012 03:53 Zihua wrote: Terran already has no vs Protoss late game and now it seems the vs Zerg late game has to fall aswell. Looks like I'll have to switch races now. And I really, really don't want to. On February 11 2012 03:53 Zeetox wrote: Nerf Terran more. Now what.... I make Vikings to counter Brood Lords, then Zerg switches to Ultra and I'm f'd up... Looks like David Kim is playing Zerg :F Just highlighting some highlights from this thread, this is hillarious, please guys continue. | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:54 Roxy wrote: not sure what he is talking about either. blue line is still on top http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS As the line is a moving average. Look at the bars for January | ||
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:36 Osteriet wrote: Truest post this day. But i honestly dont think it will pass the PTR. More like the most ignorant post of the day that makes you feel good as a T. How many times did he try to get phoenix out and micro vs good muta control? I bet you 0. Its not as simple as it sounds and doesnt work as intended. Every one in GSL said P is too hard and should always win? BS, some people did but not everyone. Besides, yes P just started doing well in GSL, is this a bad thing? should we always do shitty? Give it time, if P dominance sticks around there will be nerfs. Cant really comment on TvZ cause I wanna avoid making ignorant comments like he did. | ||
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
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CyDe
United States1010 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:50 Angel_ wrote: Wait wait wait! I just realized. The warp prism is psionic. SO! Now! Terran have a way to deal with protoss drops!! Not biological. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:54 RogerChillingworth wrote: make a maruader or two. you'll have 3/3 by then, to boot. And how the fuck i'm i supposed to know what exactly he is building until it hatches and in most cases too late react because its on its way to my base ? If he remaxes on pure Corruptor , BL , Infestor building even a few Marauders is a mistake. Same with Vikings when he builds Ultras. Zerg eggs look all the same so no way to know what he's building unless they change that. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:57 Trentelshark wrote: The changelists are starting to remind me of WC3:RoC where Blizzard finally admitted with FT that RoC was broken and couldn't be fixed without substantial changes. They're based on a 1-1 relationship and not looking at the overall picture. The only one I agree with is the Mule on high yield patches. PF are the real problem (as a T player) because on some maps (xel naga/antiga) we can just lock down a position and get a significant boost in eco while taking little to no risk. Just remove this high hill bullshit that prevents comebacks. | ||
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Doz
United States145 Posts
Overall I'd be okay with the snipe change if fungal growth no longer stopped units from using their special abilities. Ghosts are realistically the only hope to beating infestor/bl late game. Guess we'll see if we it makes it through ptr | ||
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werynais
Germany1780 Posts
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reikai
United States359 Posts
The ghost was the one thing allowing terran to take late game zerg head on. zergs can still use burrow tactics and neural parasite (ala destiny) to emp the terran's ghosts. Now the ghost is going to be worthless without TONS of stall time, which you can't really get. The new calculation is about 2.75 ghosts worth of energy to kill ONE?? ultra? Talk about switching the cost effectiveness around. EDIT: "Make Ghost 200/100 -> Nerf EMP -> Nerf Snipe -> Remove Ghost? -> Remove Terran?" this. | ||
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