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hotsuma
Brazil56 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:42 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote: Mutas will get completly wrecked by phenix, but yeah,,... and T stop whining, The mule was oficially broken on gold and every1 above plat could see that snipe was way to good. Ok dude, stick with 1a mass lings strong tech switch without a good counter. | ||
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lardlord
United States22 Posts
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:46 Azhrei16 wrote: I know I just edited my post, brain fart moment ^_^ Sorry Happens.  On a more serious note though.. I actually think that snipe needed a change, but not off that kind. They should've not touched it at all, but make it deal less damage to massive units. Cut the damage by half, what kind of a change is that? "My car doesnt work with three wheels" - "okay, lets make it 14 then". So far in the game i actually believe that changes of that magnitude are way to harsh. | ||
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Roynalf
Finland886 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:45 Haustka wrote: so what counters phoenix now, if muta isnt the answer? Corruptors obviously, why you would expect to counter something what does extra damage against light units with mass light units? | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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Jedclark
United Kingdom903 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
Now it's looking bad for them because they were kinda spoiled with lots of candies, and now blizzard is talking them back since the other races didn't have them. So the terrans feel that they come short in sweets but it's actually getting more even between the brother races. | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:49 Roynalf wrote: Corruptors obviously, why you would expect to counter something what does extra damage against light units with mass light units? Infestors work too! | ||
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jonhy-
Slovakia167 Posts
 damn i liked to use ghost in tvt to sniper marines early | ||
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
I just realized. The warp prism is psionic. SO! Now! Terran have a way to deal with protoss drops!! | ||
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Ventor
United States336 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:30 Empire.Beastyqt wrote: I love how blizzard always boosts strongest race and keeps nerfing terran no matter the balance in game. On top of terran nerfs they keep pushing terrans to micro even more and dumbing out other 2 races. Having problems in microing phoenix vs muta? its fine we'll boost it so you can do it now for sure because its pretty imbalanced having to micro your units With what is terran supposed to kill broodlords now? Every terran and zerg in GSL that gave interview they said playing vs protoss is super hard and that protoss should always win in PvZ and the only strat that worked for Z gets nerfed? More and more terran players keep quiting their race and this will not help it at all, I agree with mule nerf, but if you already want to nerf ghosts can you give us less useless raven abilities or something to deal with broodlords? For ultras you can make marauders, emp infestors and kite. This isnt rage post, its a whine post and when terran is in worst shape since start of the game they nerf the only unit that could keep terran late game alive vs other 2 races with already having terrible macro abilities (larva/warpgates). So bro, where were you during the months of terran dominance in the GSL? Or is it not okay for protoss to win games? It seems to me that you want to be able to hard counter everything with a unit and without having to adapt your play style. The fact that terrans are whining makes me sick. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3691 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:45 Haustka wrote: so what counters phoenix now, if muta isnt the answer? Phoenix is supposed to be the counter to muta not the other way around. You counter phoenix with spore, corrupter, queen, hydra and infestor. Also reading some of this thread fills me with joy, terran whinning is so beautiful, the best part is that they are still the strongest race and still have a above 50% winratio in every matchup. Also lol at using gsl to prove terran is bad now, when protoss bitched about terran being op when ro16 was like 14 terrans, nestea and killer, terran just said "well in korea most play terran, they are better players, everywhere else protoss does fine bla bla bla". | ||
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Azhrei16
United States284 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:49 m4inbrain wrote: Happens. On a more serious note though.. I actually think that snipe needed a change, but not off that kind. They should've not touched it at all, but make it deal less damage to massive units. Cut the damage by half, what kind of a change is that? "My car doesnt work with three wheels" - "okay, lets make it 14 then". So far in the game i actually believe that changes of that magnitude are way to harsh. I thought they should have just increased the energy cost to 50 or something. No need to mess with the damage really. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
the only concern i have is that they arent addressing the lategame tvp imbalance. however, i agree with the sentiment that this means a rather late HotS release. | ||
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Vehemus
United States586 Posts
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:50 Angel_ wrote: Wait wait wait! I just realized. The warp prism is psionic. SO! Now! Terran have a way to deal with protoss drops!! Oh its biological as well? You know, otherwise you cant snipe it? .......... | ||
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:32 Jisall wrote: As far as the ghost change is concerned. This doesn't break terran late game. Rauder, Ghost, Medivac, Viking, Tank seems to be the best composition. Vs Infestor Brood -> Ghost snipe infestors to keep vikings alive to kill broodlords and fight corruptors. Vs Ultra Ling -> Rauder's take out ultra's with medivac support. Ghosts take out lings with +light. Tanks for zone control in each situation. Not to breaking. Mules on gold, we can see gold base's again. Snipe gets a buff to HT's. So you can snipe HT's almost as quick as they can feedback you. Seems fairer Pheonix range is expensive, but it is helpful so no more Destiny Vs. Mana on Tal Darim Altar games where mana can't do anything for the entire game. Pretty decent patch if i must say so myself. What happnes if a terran does hold with that compsition and zerg remasses with mutas? | ||
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Burgath
Hungary26 Posts
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Roynalf
Finland886 Posts
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
thats some huge changes. don't really know how i feel about the ghost changes | ||
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