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Activision Blizzard Q4 2011 Conference Call - Page 5

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Updated mod note with feedback from Blizzard in the OP.
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
February 09 2012 21:59 GMT
#81
seems like everything is about call of duty for activation now
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 21:59:54
February 09 2012 21:59 GMT
#82
On February 10 2012 06:57 Denda Reloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 06:55 NewK wrote:
OMG! So frustrating... I can't get it to work! I click on media player and a white window just pops up and nothing happens...
has anything else been said other than hots being pushed to 2k13?


who cares, if they're right we are more than a year away from it, so we all better don't give a fuck about it. better things to do than wait 2 and a half year for some 30, oh no sry, 20 missions with bad storyline...


All of them Zergs want burrowed baneling movement.
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skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
February 09 2012 21:59 GMT
#83
On February 10 2012 06:56 -_- wrote:
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On February 10 2012 06:45 dsousa wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:38 Zdrastochye wrote:
WoW STILL has 10.2 million subs? Holy cow.


I think this may be misleading. It says as of 12/31/11 whereas the numbers they gave for Modern Warfare were from 1/31/12... a month later. (1.5M elite subscribers)

As a shareholder, at first I was glad to see the number was still at 10.2, but then i noticed the older report date and was a little suspicious. The number does seem to have stopped falling though since last quarter though.

SWTOR came out 12/20... so if you played WoW up until then, you didn't cancel until after 12/31.

WoW is the gaming industry crown jewel, without it ATVI has a hard time commanding its current market cap. 10 million monthly re-occurring revenue customers is a phenomena not yet repeated in gaming.


Take this FWIW, but my brother (who's way into the MMO scene) always says the number of paying subscribers is closer to half that number. He says they inflate it with free offers, counting accounts which aren't currently paying, and a bunch of other tricks. However, I'd love to hear more informed people talk on the subject.


As a person in a guild of 150+ members, I'd say that the numbers probably are stable(at whatever the ACTUAL number is). I can only count a few people that stopped playing and we had MANY people start playing SWTOR... but they still never canceled their wow subs and play both actively. So, at least from my own personal small sample size... 150-member guild... 3 people have quit and we've even picked up a couple members who started playing again(re-subscribers). WoW players are a dedicated bunch.. lol
zag
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia60 Posts
February 09 2012 22:00 GMT
#84
"starting the evolution of a new bungee universe..." acha
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Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
February 09 2012 22:00 GMT
#85
On February 10 2012 06:58 oxxo wrote:
?? Did they even say 2013? It sounds like people are just assuming things.


No, they didn't, they just said that they're expecting 2 new releases for blizz in 2012. One of them is Diablo 3, the other is speculated to likely be the WoW expansion or blizzard Dota instead of HotS
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:01:50
February 09 2012 22:00 GMT
#86
On February 10 2012 06:58 Reason.SC2 wrote:
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On February 10 2012 06:55 Sverigevader wrote:
Did I just hear "no front line releases in the first quarter of 2012"?


Yes, but they were talking about the activision franchises, not blizz.


They ment both, they also mentioned Blizz revenue would be down vs Q1 last year because of the release of Cataclysm and lower subscriber numbers.

Nothing in the coming quarter unless a MW map pack for xbox floats your boat.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 09 2012 22:01 GMT
#87
On February 10 2012 06:56 Bagi wrote:
What the fuck, how can they possibly justify a delay to 2013? How hard can it be to whip out a silly little campaign?

They had a lot to show back at Blizzcon, its half a year later and they say one year isn't enough to release it? Jesus...

Cause they realized just how broken every unit they demoed was and now have to completely redesign them to not destroy what little balance there is
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jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
February 09 2012 22:02 GMT
#88
On February 10 2012 07:01 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 06:56 Bagi wrote:
What the fuck, how can they possibly justify a delay to 2013? How hard can it be to whip out a silly little campaign?

They had a lot to show back at Blizzcon, its half a year later and they say one year isn't enough to release it? Jesus...

Cause they realized just how broken every unit they demoed was and now have to completely redesign them to not destroy what little balance there is


"what little balance there is" nice joke? wings of liberty is quite balanced.
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
February 09 2012 22:03 GMT
#89
no news about hots???!?!??????!
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
February 09 2012 22:03 GMT
#90
free to play, microtransaction call of duty game for china? wtf lol
Sverigevader
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden388 Posts
February 09 2012 22:03 GMT
#91
On February 10 2012 06:58 Reason.SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 06:55 Sverigevader wrote:
Did I just hear "no front line releases in the first quarter of 2012"?


Yes, but they were talking about the activision franchises, not blizz.


Yeah I suspected that. But wasn't sure so I thought that it's better to ask than to spread stupid shit
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gnatinator
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada169 Posts
February 09 2012 22:03 GMT
#92
The conference call is very difficult to listen to... I'm allergic to corporate bullshit.

Activision is currently pumping up how "great" Call of Duty is and how it's the savoir of the industry.
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Teddyman
Profile Joined October 2008
Finland362 Posts
February 09 2012 22:04 GMT
#93
I'd expect D3 during Q2, HotS during Q3 and Pandas in december or pushed to 2013. So far the WoW expansions have been pretty close to 2 years apart and cataclysm came in december 2010. At least their pace in creating patch content hasn't increased so I wouldn't expect an expansion to come any faster either. So D3, HotS during 2012 with possibly Pandaria coming too.
"Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
February 09 2012 22:04 GMT
#94
holy crap stop crying people who are not listening it's activision talk right now
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Hibzy
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom445 Posts
February 09 2012 22:04 GMT
#95
I love listening to these calls, they give me an idea of how i should write my over the top assignment breifs :D

Taking a guess i'd say HOTS beta will come in 2012 but it probably wont release until 2013 TT
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noodlesinsoup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:05:45
February 09 2012 22:05 GMT
#96
On February 10 2012 07:03 gnatinator wrote:
The conference call is very difficult to listen to... I'm allergic to corporate bullshit.

Activision is currently pumping up how "great" Call of Duty is and how it's the savoir of the industry.

The conference call isn't for you, it's for shareholders. Shareholders couldn't care less about the quality of games, just the bottom line. Sad but true
Timerly
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany511 Posts
February 09 2012 22:05 GMT
#97
I think Kotick will have to learn a lesson there. He's been holding two cash cows after his merger went through and his approach to never create new franchises except if he sees annual sequel potential means he'll be more than challenged when coming up with the next one after WoW dies in the next 1-2 years (at least in NA/EU). CoD alone can't carry everything and will eventually have to be retired, too. Kotick wanted to take the fun out of making games and he seems to have succeeded in many ways...that's not how you get the young, hungry, innovative talent my boy. Play your own games for once...
Mystgun
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong311 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:07:14
February 09 2012 22:05 GMT
#98
There are several reasons to delay the game, one of them being that the multiplayer portion of the game is simply not ready to be deployed. Another good reason is that with the release of Diablo 3 and presumably Mists of Pandaria in 2012, Blizzard risks cannibalizing their own products by having too many releases at once. I don't see a strong pipeline for them in 2013 unless a D3 expansion or LotV is already in the works so that's justification for them to hold back a release.

You guys do realize that an earnings call is to report on a company's financial performance and to the extent that it's relevant, their upcoming products, not to cater to the demands of gamers per se. Don't expect any major release dates or entertainment value here.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
February 09 2012 22:05 GMT
#99
Wouldn't it make more sense for HOTS to come out in 2012 and Diablo 3 to be released in 2013 if there's only two? I mean, SC2 is just adding content and balancing it while Diablo is actually constructing a game from the bottom up. o_O
1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
February 09 2012 22:05 GMT
#100
On February 10 2012 07:04 Teddyman wrote:
I'd expect D3 during Q2, HotS during Q3 and Pandas in december or pushed to 2013. So far the WoW expansions have been pretty close to 2 years apart and cataclysm came in december 2010. At least their pace in creating patch content hasn't increased so I wouldn't expect an expansion to come any faster either. So D3, HotS during 2012 with possibly Pandaria coming too.

Dragon Soul is the last raid of Cata

Blizz wont leave them alone with that content for a whole year
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