So shut up and stop emailing us, retards"
Thank you, Blizzard!
God, all the "business majors" fighting blindly from the "logical" standpoint really need to learn to think from more than ONE perspective...
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
So shut up and stop emailing us, retards" Thank you, Blizzard! God, all the "business majors" fighting blindly from the "logical" standpoint really need to learn to think from more than ONE perspective... | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On January 21 2012 11:02 Falling wrote: Show nested quote + Allow you to blacklist certain players? Right, then some scrub blacklists people better than him. Great ladder then Well now that I think about it, ladder's a bit of a joke anyways. No global ranking, hidden losses and all sorts of problems with early season GM. A limited form of blacklisting wouldn't break things as much they already are... those are all arbitrary, and unrelated to it's function. ladder's first and foremost purpose is: match players who are at your skill level and try and bring you down to 50% w/l. and it's good at it. | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:50 halfies wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2012 09:12 TheTurk wrote: How can Blizzard possibly be so obtuse? Do they not understand that user streams are beneficial to Blizzard as well as the streamers? The possibility of stream sniping without ramifications is obviously going to drive players away from streaming. Could you imagine a world without streams? The volume of SC2 content on the web would drop so alarmingly. Honestly, how do we as SC2 enthusiasts get our SC2 content? 1) Big Tourneys Stuff like MLG, IEM, HSC, etc. These only come around once every few months and generally take 3-5 days, some of the smaller ones being monthly at best. GSL of course has a slightly different format, but the premise is close enough to clump together with the others. These are nice, but obviously most people are only going to watch through the VOD's once before they're stale. (That's just how this game works.) Too few and far between. Not to mention that watching players in big tourneys is much different than watching them ladder, for many reasons. 2) Showmatch/Weekly Event These, like the big tourneys, are generally sponsored heavily. Stuff that IPL puts out, Korean Weekly, occasional Twitch.tv stuff, etc. The fine production value and quality, high level gameplay, and pro casting feeds us interesting material. A little less sporadic, but the difference in strats and distinction between competitive vs ladder play is still there. 3) Third-Party Content Day[9] comes to mind, among others. Stuff that isn't really commercial or professionally produced all count. These are adequate and quite varied sources of content that one could probably find fresh every day or two. But none of these compare in volume or audience benefit to: 4) Streamers Every minute of every day, from somewhere in the world there are at least a dozen pros streaming on one of a dozen host sites. This is the Bread and Butter to the average SC2 goer. Some of us have it on 24/7. It's where we go to learn, it's where we go for entertainment, and it's where we go to kill time with something we love. It's the largest source of content in terms of volume, and that by an incredibly huge margin. If something like stream sniping disrupts this content, not volumetrically but in terms of pissing off the streamer or ruining matches, etc, that's something Blizzard should have a problem with. That huge rant aside, I also question Blizzards knowledge of what "stream sniping" actually is. There's no problem with attempting to play against a pro on the ladder by timing queues correctly. The problem lies in watching the stream to gain an unfair advantage and insight into the player's moves, strategies, and other information specific to that game. There's no reason that Blizzard should be ok with that, let alone discouraging players to stream as a solution. are you a moron? stream sniping stops almost no streams, and the good players just roll straight over deezer and combatEX even when they are cheating. all it does is teach mediocre but famous streamers how to play vs strong cheese. and blizzard banning people because they are annoying is just retarded, im pretty sure there would be like 5 players on battlenet. dragon and cella have pissed off loads of people in game with silly strats, but no one clamours for them to be banned, even though using someone elses account to play in lower leagues is clearly in breach of the EULA. blizzard aren't discouraging players from streaming, all they are saying is that if you give your opponent an opportunity to gain an advantage, dont be surprised if they take it. if you cant understand their veiwpoint, and why they cant do shit to stop it, then its not even worth my time to post this, but whatever, its written now. I guess you've never noticed oGsFin losing to Swoozy... MULTIPLE TIMES. | ||
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
On January 21 2012 11:16 ShatterZer0 wrote: "We don't want to protect our customers or our product. Because we never said we would in this particular loophole case. So shut up and stop emailing us, retards" Thank you, Blizzard! God, all the "business majors" fighting blindly from the "logical" standpoint really need to learn to think from more than ONE perspective... Yeh, they only want our money. They don't give a shit about anything else. | ||
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BoggieMan
520 Posts
twitch tv and other stream providers should just make it possible to have long delays on streams (as in around 5 minutes), allowing players to stream safely without being sniped if they want to. (this will not eliminate stream sniping, but limiting what information people will get from doing it.) | ||
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
On January 21 2012 11:16 ShatterZer0 wrote: "We don't want to protect our customers or our product. Because we never said we would in this particular loophole case. So shut up and stop emailing us, retards" Thank you, Blizzard! God, all the "business majors" fighting blindly from the "logical" standpoint really need to learn to think from more than ONE perspective... No one asked people to stream games nor make them public in anyway, therefore streamers are just exposing themselves to those people called "stream-cheaters". Blizzard makes the games and balances it. Complaining to Blizzard that people are streamcheating is the same as complaining to Blizzard that sc2gears doesn't do the proper worker count. It's just a third party program that is not prohibited by Blizzard. It's the player's responsibility to make sure that people don't snipe or streamcheat them, which is easily solved by making overlays to not show when they are searching a game or hide the game screen while playing against a streamcheater. I know those kind of things are really annoying and all, but you shouldn't blame Blizzard. | ||
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Suc
Australia1569 Posts
On January 21 2012 11:16 ShatterZer0 wrote: "We don't want to protect our customers or our product. Because we never said we would in this particular loophole case. So shut up and stop emailing us, retards" Thank you, Blizzard! God, all the "business majors" fighting blindly from the "logical" standpoint really need to learn to think from more than ONE perspective... To be perfectly honest, how is it Blizzard's problem? How did Blizzard end up being the bad guy in this situation? I don't really know why people expect Blizzard to fix this, streaming is an awesome service done by players and others, and yeah, there are some real d-bags out there who ruin the experience for the player and the viewers, but that's the reality of it. The entire nature of the service is that you get to watch someone live. I'd be open to suggestions of solutions that Blizzard could implement, but the ones I've seen so far don't really cut it imo. For example, the "blacklisting" or "downvoting" of players would be cool, yeah, but it would lead to abuse of the system whereby people just block players they don't want to vs or lose to regularly (which is probably a big deal in high gm where the targeted streamers mostly are). Even if there were a way to prevent the abuse of the above idea, how does this system work, does everyone get these rights or does Blizzard have to grant them separately? Neither are good options in my opinion, it would be too cumbersome and maybe even unfair to grant rights to people because they are being harassed via stream (although this sounds a bit more reasonable after I type it). Give people a limited number of "blocks" or "downvotes"? What if there are more than x amount of people abusing a streamer? Give them more "downvotes"? Then that just leads back to my previous paragraph. So yeah, to sum up, I personally don't believe this is Blizzard's problem at all, it's just a shame that the nature of a great service is that it can be abused by idiots. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On January 21 2012 11:16 ShatterZer0 wrote: "We don't want to protect our customers or our product. Because we never said we would in this particular loophole case. So shut up and stop emailing us, retards" Thank you, Blizzard! God, all the "business majors" fighting blindly from the "logical" standpoint really need to learn to think from more than ONE perspective... Wtf do you expect? It's a fair stance by blizzard. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On January 21 2012 11:16 ShatterZer0 wrote: "We don't want to protect our customers or our product. Because we never said we would in this particular loophole case. So shut up and stop emailing us, retards" Thank you, Blizzard! God, all the "business majors" fighting blindly from the "logical" standpoint really need to learn to think from more than ONE perspective... 1. Anyone can be logical, not just business majors. 2. What's wrong with employing logic? Seems to me that you're on the wrong side here. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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SnowSC2
United States678 Posts
On January 21 2012 11:16 ShatterZer0 wrote: "We don't want to protect our customers or our product. Because we never said we would in this particular loophole case. So shut up and stop emailing us, retards" Thank you, Blizzard! God, all the "business majors" fighting blindly from the "logical" standpoint really need to learn to think from more than ONE perspective... This is terribly ignorant, you dont need to be a business major or narrow-minded by any means to understand their stance on this even without them releasing any statements about it. | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
Personally I think the much bigger problem is hacking, and Blizzard can actually deal with that problem. They're doing alright, although they could do much better imo. Personally I wouldn't give a care about things that don't affect gameplay, like unlocking achievements, but doing things like maphacking is just f'd up. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On January 21 2012 11:16 ShatterZer0 wrote: "We don't want to protect our customers or our product. Because we never said we would in this particular loophole case. So shut up and stop emailing us, retards" Thank you, Blizzard! God, all the "business majors" fighting blindly from the "logical" standpoint really need to learn to think from more than ONE perspective... Since when is it their responsibility to protect streamers of problems they cause themselves by streaming? | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
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United States124 Posts
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United States65 Posts
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Canada709 Posts
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Canada414 Posts
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Canada809 Posts
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