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Axslav and Strifecro part ways with EG - Page 37

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Shackadeemus
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland247 Posts
January 19 2012 14:17 GMT
#721
You know, if Incontrol wasn't such a personality they'd prob get rid of him too!
Pirate-bird ftw.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:23:10
January 19 2012 14:19 GMT
#722
On January 19 2012 23:17 Shackadeemus wrote:
You know, if Incontrol wasn't such a personality they'd prob get rid of him too!


I really don't think that there is anyone who thinks that Incontrol is in the team for his playing abilities, so I guess you're right.

But I think the thread isn't about him so, I'll leave it at that
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
January 19 2012 14:23 GMT
#723
No results, no place
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
KinQuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland810 Posts
January 19 2012 14:29 GMT
#724
For some reason i dont even give a shit.
Holy check.
striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
January 19 2012 14:29 GMT
#725
TL should perhaps get rid of Tyler for the same underperformance. At some point you have to earn your keep
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
January 19 2012 14:37 GMT
#726
On January 19 2012 23:29 striderxxx wrote:
TL should perhaps get rid of Tyler for the same underperformance. At some point you have to earn your keep


I don't think you need to compare other teams now am i not right? Why involve other players in this? Just talk about the topic.
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
January 19 2012 14:38 GMT
#727
Sadly, it's about time. They haven't done anything really so I thought this would've happened sooner.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
January 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#728
On January 19 2012 23:37 KicKDoG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:29 striderxxx wrote:
TL should perhaps get rid of Tyler for the same underperformance. At some point you have to earn your keep


I don't think you need to compare other teams now am i not right? Why involve other players in this? Just talk about the topic.



I understand what you mean about sticking to topic, but if NA's teams are going to compete with Koreans, they need to devote all their resources to promising players. Players who are grandfathered into a team/community are nice and all, but are also a drainage on resources that could be better allocated elsewhere. Just saying.
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
January 19 2012 14:46 GMT
#729
Sad for them but if you scroll through the EG rooster nowadays players like them just dont fit in it anymore.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
January 19 2012 14:48 GMT
#730
If I was to guess I'd have guessed LZ and Strifecro might have gone. I would have thought Axlav has had better results than those fellas (but I don't know for sure as I don't follow him or EG closely).

Incontrol and Machine not in the same category (IMO), both have performed much better than those others. Incontrol gets panned for underperforming, but he's going okay compared to other 2nd rung foreigners (eg: not Huk, idra, Stephano and naniwa). Machine seems to get better at nearly every tournament, he is a good player too.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
January 19 2012 14:48 GMT
#731
sc2 had become quite stupid in places up until the last few weeks. lets be honest theres a lot of players getting cut a lot of slack just because of who they know, something that doesnt happen anywhere else in any sport/esport.

its about time that the guys in charge of the money at these big teams started doing this.. egs sc2 team was being treated as a boys club
bRoKeNLaW
Profile Joined May 2011
United States33 Posts
January 19 2012 14:49 GMT
#732
Axslav is actually a really good player, though he hasn't had hs moment of shine, I really think that they will come to regret getting rid of him in the near future, as for Strife, I'm not so sure; the few times I've seen him play vs QxGiNkA and so forth, he does very unorthodox builds; bane bust and so forth, but make no mistake, Axslav will win a few tournys sooner or later
"If you're not attacking, you're probably dying"
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 19 2012 14:50 GMT
#733
Damn, oh well... understandable, no point for a new contract if they haven't showed much results at all.... GLHF to both Axslav and Strifecro :D
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
January 19 2012 14:51 GMT
#734
On January 19 2012 23:49 bRoKeNLaW wrote:
Axslav is actually a really good player, though he hasn't had hs moment of shine, I really think that they will come to regret getting rid of him in the near future, as for Strife, I'm not so sure; the few times I've seen him play vs QxGiNkA and so forth, he does very unorthodox builds; bane bust and so forth, but make no mistake, Axslav will win a few tournys sooner or later


Not any tournament with proper competition in it, I'm afraid. =/
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
January 19 2012 14:52 GMT
#735
it's a business decision definitely, no hard feelings. Because if you really think from a cold-hearted business perspective, everyone has a quota to fill in order to keep the lights on, the heat warm, food on the table, pay the rent, etc.

With team houses as mini-companies, everyone has to somehow contribute to the bottom line, or support the employees(for EG house Anna Prosser in this case). When I watch MLG, GSL, and many of the bigger tourneys, I see these names:

- Huk
- IdrA
- Puma

and maybe I'm living in a fish barrel, but I don't really see the names of these other guys pop out as prominently as the the biggest names. It worries me that lesser known and arguably players with lesser success...if they don't win tourneys or at least make it to the top 4, how EG management justifies their name on the payroll.

Just guessing but maybe the lesser known players earn their keep through coaching, streaming and possibly team promotion. Still, I feel nervous for Machine and company
Canada
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
January 19 2012 14:52 GMT
#736
They were really the unsung heroes of EG. Before they bought a bunch of Koreans/Huk they were the ones actually getting wins in team leagues, etc. And not doing too bad for themselves in MLG open brackets. I hope they get new teams if they want to continue to be players, but they got almost no exposure from EG so we'll see. I think they are hugely undervalued as NA players
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 19 2012 14:54 GMT
#737
On January 19 2012 23:29 striderxxx wrote:
TL should perhaps get rid of Tyler for the same underperformance. At some point you have to earn your keep


It's funny because Tyler while underperforming still had much better all round results in almost every tournament tyler and the two departing players have entered in??? I'm not really sure that TL would get rid of Tyler, as we all know he has the talent and potential to become one of the best in the RTS scene as long as he puts a lot of effort into it like BW. I'm not sure about what the "keep"/salary was for all 3 players but I think EG are capable (with the finances they have) of building a much stronger team and you can say a lot of other TL players have had lacking results this year (not only Tyler imo).
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
January 19 2012 14:55 GMT
#738
On January 19 2012 23:52 floor exercise wrote:
They were really the unsung heroes of EG. Before they bought a bunch of Koreans/Huk they were the ones actually getting wins in team leagues, etc. And not doing too bad for themselves in MLG open brackets. I hope they get new teams if they want to continue to be players, but they got almost no exposure from EG so we'll see. I think they are hugely undervalued as NA players


I think the thing is that most of the NA players are undervalued or not valued at all, could be because the lack of tournaments and online cups that Koreans and the whole EU scene has, therefore giving people absolutely no chances to prove their worth. I honestly can't name a single NA player that stands out as someone special to keep an eye out. (Ofc, not counting any of these Selects, Idras, Huks and etc.).
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
January 19 2012 14:57 GMT
#739
On January 19 2012 23:54 ReaperX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:29 striderxxx wrote:
TL should perhaps get rid of Tyler for the same underperformance. At some point you have to earn your keep


It's funny because Tyler while underperforming still had much better all round results in almost every tournament tyler and the two departing players have entered in??? I'm not really sure that TL would get rid of Tyler, as we all know he has the talent and potential to become one of the best in the RTS scene as long as he puts a lot of effort into it like BW. I'm not sure about what the "keep"/salary was for all 3 players but I think EG are capable (with the finances they have) of building a much stronger team and you can say a lot of other TL players have had lacking results this year (not only Tyler imo).


The truth is that Tyler usually finishes at the spot that he's seeded in, not advancing further in any tournaments. Wins a set or two if lucky with brackets, but that's about it. Sad as it is, I'd really would like to see him do well. Such a nice guy. =/
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 19 2012 15:01 GMT
#740
On January 19 2012 23:52 floor exercise wrote:
They were really the unsung heroes of EG. Before they bought a bunch of Koreans/Huk they were the ones actually getting wins in team leagues, etc. And not doing too bad for themselves in MLG open brackets. I hope they get new teams if they want to continue to be players, but they got almost no exposure from EG so we'll see. I think they are hugely undervalued as NA players


Obviously they've put a lot of effort into winning matches and stuff for EG but they had almost little or no international success at all and that is why such a big company like EG might have made such a decision. They weren't "pillars of the community" or popular at all for streaming or coaching... it's still sad to see them go of course, but normally you want the players to give exposure to the team instead of vice versa.

Obviously, you can say that giving exposure to a player would be great but they have nothing to back the exposure up with imo. No results, no place as someone else in the thread said.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
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