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Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
December 25 2011 17:29 GMT
#41
On December 26 2011 01:30 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 01:01 Niazger wrote:
I think Incontrol has some issues when it comes to evaluating his own abilities. Maybe he can get some tournament results next year but giving Naniwa adivice about PR? I dont know about that...


As much as I dislike incontrol ever since sc2 came out, you have to remember that incontrol was #1 Zerg / #1 player in the United States at one point in SC:BW, a fact you can't discount.


So that made him what... 2000th best in the world? Pretty easy to discount actually.
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TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 17:30:48
December 25 2011 17:29 GMT
#42
On December 26 2011 01:22 obsidia wrote:
he has no business questioning naniwa's PR, if he focused more on practice and less on spreading his opinions like naniwa does, then he might beable to have a chance in this tournement.


Naniwa doesn't need help winning tournaments, Naniwa sure does need help with presenting himself in a positive manner.

Guess which one iNcontrol was talking about?

The fact that iNcontrol has such a large fan base and gets invited to all these various tournaments is a pretty good indicator that he does indeed know what he's talking about when it comes to PR.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 25 2011 17:32 GMT
#43
On December 26 2011 01:03 nvs. wrote:
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On December 26 2011 00:44 Calasmere wrote:
I like confidence, but I think iNcontrol is bordering being delusional. He will not win, and I would actually be surprised if he took a Bo3 series off anyone. Sad, but true.


Sad but at least partially true. At this point you can't question his heart but honestly that elite world class level of skill just isn't there.

Inc may not be the top level SC2 player but I don't think you can rule out his potential once he practice hard enough. I mean, he came from a BW background, actually hes one of the few foreign BW players along with Idra, Ret, Artosis, Day9 etc...

I think the reason hes not doing well in SC2 is maybe he doesn't have all the time like he had before to practice. Anyway, best of luck for him in 2012.
Terran
Liight
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland103 Posts
December 25 2011 17:36 GMT
#44
This thread is going to be packed with bitter replys from underskilled diamond players who criticize incontrolls sc2 skill back and forth even tho it has nothing to do with the subject.

Why dont people bash day9 as much as Incontroll? Both of them do shitloads for the community and either are GSL level in skill, wich seems to be peoples main focus when a proplayer does anything at all here.
It's been interesting.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
December 25 2011 17:37 GMT
#45
On December 26 2011 02:28 Eee wrote:
I really hope he practice his ass off, because he really didnt deserve an invite.


Why not?

I mean having iNcontrol there will bring them far more viewers then some random good but unknown North American player; he seems like the perfect invite.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 17:39:27
December 25 2011 17:38 GMT
#46
cool, can't wait to see if incontrol can improve from his 541st position on TLPD or improve his overall 34% win rate. 2012 will be a big year to see if he can ever become a legitimate threat at a tournament.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1139_iNcontroL

Good luck in 2012 Geoff! Hopefully he doesn't meet a single terran as he lost his last 17 games of 20 against Terran.
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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
December 25 2011 17:40 GMT
#47
On December 26 2011 02:36 Liight wrote:
This thread is going to be packed with bitter replys from underskilled diamond players who criticize incontrolls sc2 skill back and forth even tho it has nothing to do with the subject.

Why dont people bash day9 as much as Incontroll? Both of them do shitloads for the community and either are GSL level in skill, wich seems to be peoples main focus when a proplayer does anything at all here.

Because Day9 isn't being invited into tournaments...? I don't think InControl deserved an invite but he's a passionate guy who's done a lot for the community so obviously hoping for him to do well.
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norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
December 25 2011 17:41 GMT
#48
Yeah incontrol may not be good at starcraft but he's damn funny and a great guy. I'm always willing to watch his games and I root for him no matter what. Homestory is the best kind of venue for a good personality,
kekeke
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
December 25 2011 17:42 GMT
#49
Good luck iNcontroL! The man talks a lot of sense if you take the time to pay attention and don't get sidetracked by some of his classic sound-bites
alyselol
Profile Joined December 2010
100 Posts
December 25 2011 17:44 GMT
#50
Loves iNcontrol - a fuzzy teddy bear! Hope he does well at HSC; good luck Geoff!
my0s
Profile Joined March 2010
United States193 Posts
December 25 2011 17:44 GMT
#51
Is there a follow-up interview with that girl in the elf costume or whatever in the background?

KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
December 25 2011 17:48 GMT
#52
Good luck Geoff Cheering for you as always.
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namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
December 25 2011 17:49 GMT
#53
Nice to see that Incontrol owns a pair of jeans after all :D Never seen him without shorts
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oXoss
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany15 Posts
December 25 2011 17:49 GMT
#54
Good luck iNcontrol.. I hope that you'll enjoy your stay here in Germany!
"Greatness is not this wonderful, illusive, god-like feature that only the special among us will ever taste. It is something that truly exist in all of us."
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
December 25 2011 17:51 GMT
#55
On December 26 2011 01:30 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 01:01 Niazger wrote:
I think Incontrol has some issues when it comes to evaluating his own abilities. Maybe he can get some tournament results next year but giving Naniwa adivice about PR? I dont know about that...


As much as I dislike incontrol ever since sc2 came out, you have to remember that incontrol was #1 Zerg / #1 player in the United States at one point in SC:BW, a fact you can't discount.

did you follow BW though? or just looking at his past results.because everyone knew his um...'style' back in bw and he even admitted how 'tactical' he was. yes he had success with it and thats great, but it wont translate well to a high caliber of competition because you become a one-trick pony real fast.
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
December 25 2011 18:00 GMT
#56
On December 26 2011 02:36 Liight wrote:
This thread is going to be packed with bitter replys from underskilled diamond players who criticize incontrolls sc2 skill back and forth even tho it has nothing to do with the subject.

Why dont people bash day9 as much as Incontroll? Both of them do shitloads for the community and either are GSL level in skill, wich seems to be peoples main focus when a proplayer does anything at all here.

Mostly because Day9 is a caster, so no one considers him to be a top-tier player. He's self-admittedly not even GM level on NA. Incontrol on the other hand is a progamer, on a legitimate team with sponsors, and he attends tournaments as a competitor. I don't really agree with the amount of hate he gets seeing as the vast majority of NA (and EU) players are just as good (or bad) as he is, but that's the reasoning behind it.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
December 25 2011 18:04 GMT
#57
On December 26 2011 03:00 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 02:36 Liight wrote:
This thread is going to be packed with bitter replys from underskilled diamond players who criticize incontrolls sc2 skill back and forth even tho it has nothing to do with the subject.

Why dont people bash day9 as much as Incontroll? Both of them do shitloads for the community and either are GSL level in skill, wich seems to be peoples main focus when a proplayer does anything at all here.

Mostly because Day9 is a caster, so no one considers him to be a top-tier player. He's self-admittedly not even GM level on NA. Incontrol on the other hand is a progamer, on a legitimate team with sponsors, and he attends tournaments as a competitor. I don't really agree with the amount of hate he gets seeing as the vast majority of NA (and EU) players are just as good (or bad) as he is, but that's the reasoning behind it.

but what about fans of ANY sport criticizing a player who just doesn't hang with everyone else in terms of skill and results? happens all the time and is generally agreed upon to be justified.

just because fans of starcraft cant play at incontrol's level (no shit, hes a progamer) doesn't mean they shouldnt criticise him from a sport standpoint as a poor competitor compared to all other pros...

i feel like inc is at the level of a NA GM semi-pro and needs to stop focusing on just his image and really buckle down and practice, because then he could actually be good (compared to other pros, yes i know hes better than me and 99% in the forum and that is not the point)
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
December 25 2011 18:06 GMT
#58
Heart of a champion, courage of a lion.
<3 gl buddy, hope to see you kick some nass and take some manes in 2012.
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Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 18:11:52
December 25 2011 18:11 GMT
#59
On December 26 2011 02:28 Eee wrote:
I really hope he practice his ass off, because he really didnt deserve an invite. There's alot of NA players who have had better achievments in 2011 and are alot more skilled than him.
It makes me a bit sad that other (better) NA players had to go trough a qualifier, and Incontrol recieved an invite. However I hope he makes a good showing in HSC4.

Popularity matters. InControl knows how to promote himself, and that counts.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
December 25 2011 18:14 GMT
#60
On December 26 2011 02:37 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 02:28 Eee wrote:
I really hope he practice his ass off, because he really didnt deserve an invite.


Why not?

I mean having iNcontrol there will bring them far more viewers then some random good but unknown North American player; he seems like the perfect invite.

If they were doing it for that reason than its even more stupid.
Also personally, i dont believe that he's that popular in Europe (since it will be casted in EU primetime), and most people i know strongly dislike him. So I would say that it would "damage" their viewership more than it helps it (although i think his participation doesnt really have any effect on viewership).
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