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NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
December 26 2011 23:34 GMT
#141
On December 26 2011 02:29 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 01:30 randomKo_Orean wrote:
On December 26 2011 01:01 Niazger wrote:
I think Incontrol has some issues when it comes to evaluating his own abilities. Maybe he can get some tournament results next year but giving Naniwa adivice about PR? I dont know about that...


As much as I dislike incontrol ever since sc2 came out, you have to remember that incontrol was #1 Zerg / #1 player in the United States at one point in SC:BW, a fact you can't discount.


So that made him what... 2000th best in the world? Pretty easy to discount actually.


But when 3/4 of those players are not playing SC2 it definitely makes a difference. However no matter how good he used to be in BW his play is pretty dire today.

Also he would have been no where near 2000 me thinks. Though humans have great difficulty estimating large quantities :p
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
December 26 2011 23:48 GMT
#142
incontrol should focus on anything with esports except for playing the game.
he is an iconic figure with stog, nasl season1, TL, and such. but he is not that great at playing.

about time he accepts this fact and focus on things that he is good at. I can see him making a good manager/caster/organizer/host/etc. just not a good player.

maybe he will prove otherwise, but I stopped putting my money on incontrol so many MLGs ago.
Dozle
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada147 Posts
December 26 2011 23:55 GMT
#143
On December 27 2011 08:10 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 02:28 Eee wrote:
I really hope he practice his ass off, because he really didnt deserve an invite.

What have you done for the community or for the HSC to tell us who deserves an invitation? I think the HSC stuff knows what is the best for the cup.

Being a viewer who watched every HSC so far (the first one was really small, the second got at least some guests ) I am glad to see Incontrol the fourth one.



What's best for the cup is good players that deserve invites and can perform on a consistent level. InControl getting stomped isn't good for the cup, it's just a waste of an invite.

That being said. Goodluck to InControl. If he can practice and perform on a good level then it wasn't a waste after all but judging from past experience...
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
December 27 2011 00:00 GMT
#144
On December 27 2011 08:10 [F_]aths wrote:
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On December 26 2011 02:28 Eee wrote:
I really hope he practice his ass off, because he really didnt deserve an invite.

What have you done for the community or for the HSC to tell us who deserves an invitation? I think the HSC stuff knows what is the best for the cup.

Being a viewer who watched every HSC so far (the first one was really small, the second got at least some guests ) I am glad to see Incontrol the fourth one.


I don't think he has to be involved in HSC or have done something massive for the community in order to give his opinion on who deserves an invitation. The, "They know what's best for themselves" argument could effective eliminate the need for any criticism altogether.

Being a viewer who has watched HSC in the past, I am not particularly excited to see incontrol in the fourth one as there are other players I feel may be more deserving. Nonetheless, he's there and it isn't the biggest travesty.

It's just another opinion, it has nothing to do with what the poster you responded to has done for the community.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 27 2011 00:10 GMT
#145
Its pretty funny how he thinks he is that good with pr, i mean look at his own image now
anyways gl, but i don't even see him making it out of group stages tbh
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Ex_Combat
Profile Joined December 2011
35 Posts
December 27 2011 00:19 GMT
#146
Having an iconic figure participate is always a good thing I think, regardless of skill. Go Inc! Go give them a big upset.

Does anyone have an update on the cosplayer in the background.
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
December 27 2011 00:20 GMT
#147
GL Geoff, always rootin' for ya for a huge comeback in 2012. <3
eSports or die tryin'
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
December 27 2011 00:25 GMT
#148
On December 27 2011 09:19 Ex_Combat wrote:
Having an iconic figure participate is always a good thing I think, regardless of skill. Go Inc! Go give them a big upset.

Does anyone have an update on the cosplayer in the background.

is it? it may seem like it but then artosis played nasl season 1. how did that turn out again?
after his results, everyone was stating how that spot could have went to more deserved.
if you can't compete at the level of the tournament, don't play imo. its just a waste of a seat.
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 27 2011 00:36 GMT
#149
Don't hate the player hate the game lolol but really I'm hoping for a good turn out this year from Geoff!!!
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Ex_Combat
Profile Joined December 2011
35 Posts
December 27 2011 00:48 GMT
#150
On December 27 2011 09:25 justsayinbro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 09:19 Ex_Combat wrote:
Having an iconic figure participate is always a good thing I think, regardless of skill. Go Inc! Go give them a big upset.

Does anyone have an update on the cosplayer in the background.

is it? it may seem like it but then artosis played nasl season 1. how did that turn out again?
after his results, everyone was stating how that spot could have went to more deserved.
if you can't compete at the level of the tournament, don't play imo. its just a waste of a seat.


I gotta agree that his performance in NASL 1 was kinda sucky but his appearance in the first season of GSL make me erections. I thinking having one or two popular names in there ornaments the whole tourney.

Its kinda like having Boxer in ANYTHING. And plus who knows, I got my fingers crossed that Inc will cause a major upset.

IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
December 27 2011 00:51 GMT
#151
He should concentrate on everything outside of playing. He is infinitely more skilled at creating a brand through his cult of personality. Playing, not so much.

Good luck regardless in '12.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
December 27 2011 00:54 GMT
#152
On December 27 2011 09:48 Ex_Combat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 09:25 justsayinbro wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:19 Ex_Combat wrote:
Having an iconic figure participate is always a good thing I think, regardless of skill. Go Inc! Go give them a big upset.

Does anyone have an update on the cosplayer in the background.

is it? it may seem like it but then artosis played nasl season 1. how did that turn out again?
after his results, everyone was stating how that spot could have went to more deserved.
if you can't compete at the level of the tournament, don't play imo. its just a waste of a seat.


I gotta agree that his performance in NASL 1 was kinda sucky but his appearance in the first season of GSL make me erections. I thinking having one or two popular names in there ornaments the whole tourney.

Its kinda like having Boxer in ANYTHING. And plus who knows, I got my fingers crossed that Inc will cause a major upset.



Boxer is currently Code S and generally performs somewhat respectably in most tournaments he competes in.

It's not exactly comparable.
phar40h
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1 Post
December 27 2011 04:24 GMT
#153
On December 26 2011 20:03 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 19:22 mememolly wrote:
On December 26 2011 17:20 Ciraxis wrote:


By the way, why is there a camera in the preview picture, but no video of the interview :D ?


because it isn't a video camera

Check out the mic cable running into the camera. I'm pretty sure it's a digital camera that was being used to record the interview, but they just transcribed it and released it as text for whatever reason.



The video interview you're looking for hasn't be released. (That's me int he photo) It was an interview for ESPN, I can't confirm whether or not the video will be released anytime soon unfortunately.
toofaraway
Profile Joined March 2011
United States15 Posts
December 27 2011 04:28 GMT
#154
If Incontrol were performing in practice as bad as his results in tournaments have been, he probably would be looking to move to a purely coaching position within EG (something he would be well suited for) or casting job (which he has proven he is good at). I really think that he's just having a bit of trouble at tournaments, but is going to turn it around. Sure his results have been poor recently, but anyone who's been a professional gamer as long as he has must have the dedication to turn that kind of slump around, or they would never have reached that point.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 04:42:27
December 27 2011 04:37 GMT
#155
On December 27 2011 09:54 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 09:48 Ex_Combat wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:25 justsayinbro wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:19 Ex_Combat wrote:
Having an iconic figure participate is always a good thing I think, regardless of skill. Go Inc! Go give them a big upset.

Does anyone have an update on the cosplayer in the background.

is it? it may seem like it but then artosis played nasl season 1. how did that turn out again?
after his results, everyone was stating how that spot could have went to more deserved.
if you can't compete at the level of the tournament, don't play imo. its just a waste of a seat.


I gotta agree that his performance in NASL 1 was kinda sucky but his appearance in the first season of GSL make me erections. I thinking having one or two popular names in there ornaments the whole tourney.

Its kinda like having Boxer in ANYTHING. And plus who knows, I got my fingers crossed that Inc will cause a major upset.



Boxer is currently Code S and generally performs somewhat respectably in most tournaments he competes in.

It's not exactly comparable.



Except for a while Boxer could barely eclispe the mediocre foreigners and was consistently the lowest placing of nearly every Korean at every event where he didn't get seeded high.
Give Geoff the respect he deserves people. He's trying his best. I'd much rather have someone who consistently puts in effort and trys to further the game than someone who's good and just plays to make money and doesn't really give a shit.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
December 27 2011 04:50 GMT
#156
On December 27 2011 13:37 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 09:54 Mordiford wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:48 Ex_Combat wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:25 justsayinbro wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:19 Ex_Combat wrote:
Having an iconic figure participate is always a good thing I think, regardless of skill. Go Inc! Go give them a big upset.

Does anyone have an update on the cosplayer in the background.

is it? it may seem like it but then artosis played nasl season 1. how did that turn out again?
after his results, everyone was stating how that spot could have went to more deserved.
if you can't compete at the level of the tournament, don't play imo. its just a waste of a seat.


I gotta agree that his performance in NASL 1 was kinda sucky but his appearance in the first season of GSL make me erections. I thinking having one or two popular names in there ornaments the whole tourney.

Its kinda like having Boxer in ANYTHING. And plus who knows, I got my fingers crossed that Inc will cause a major upset.



Boxer is currently Code S and generally performs somewhat respectably in most tournaments he competes in.

It's not exactly comparable.



Except for a while Boxer could barely eclispe the mediocre foreigners and was consistently the lowest placing of nearly every Korean at every event where he didn't get seeded high.
Give Geoff the respect he deserves people. He's trying his best. I'd much rather have someone who consistently puts in effort and trys to further the game than someone who's good and just plays to make money and doesn't really give a shit.


uh boxer did amazing in foreign tournaments. dono what you're smoking.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 27 2011 04:53 GMT
#157
On December 27 2011 13:50 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 13:37 1Eris1 wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:54 Mordiford wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:48 Ex_Combat wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:25 justsayinbro wrote:
On December 27 2011 09:19 Ex_Combat wrote:
Having an iconic figure participate is always a good thing I think, regardless of skill. Go Inc! Go give them a big upset.

Does anyone have an update on the cosplayer in the background.

is it? it may seem like it but then artosis played nasl season 1. how did that turn out again?
after his results, everyone was stating how that spot could have went to more deserved.
if you can't compete at the level of the tournament, don't play imo. its just a waste of a seat.


I gotta agree that his performance in NASL 1 was kinda sucky but his appearance in the first season of GSL make me erections. I thinking having one or two popular names in there ornaments the whole tourney.

Its kinda like having Boxer in ANYTHING. And plus who knows, I got my fingers crossed that Inc will cause a major upset.



Boxer is currently Code S and generally performs somewhat respectably in most tournaments he competes in.

It's not exactly comparable.



Except for a while Boxer could barely eclispe the mediocre foreigners and was consistently the lowest placing of nearly every Korean at every event where he didn't get seeded high.
Give Geoff the respect he deserves people. He's trying his best. I'd much rather have someone who consistently puts in effort and trys to further the game than someone who's good and just plays to make money and doesn't really give a shit.


uh boxer did amazing in foreign tournaments. dono what you're smoking.



You'll have to enlighten me. I only recall him doing well at Anaheim. (Top 4)
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
sleigh bells
Profile Joined April 2011
United States358 Posts
December 27 2011 06:03 GMT
#158
On December 27 2011 09:25 justsayinbro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 09:19 Ex_Combat wrote:
Having an iconic figure participate is always a good thing I think, regardless of skill. Go Inc! Go give them a big upset.

Does anyone have an update on the cosplayer in the background.

is it? it may seem like it but then artosis played nasl season 1. how did that turn out again?
after his results, everyone was stating how that spot could have went to more deserved.
if you can't compete at the level of the tournament, don't play imo. its just a waste of a seat.

It gave us the artosis pylon.
Sup son? ¯\__(ツ)__/¯
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 27 2011 06:10 GMT
#159
On December 27 2011 13:28 toofaraway wrote:
If Incontrol were performing in practice as bad as his results in tournaments have been, he probably would be looking to move to a purely coaching position within EG (something he would be well suited for) or casting job (which he has proven he is good at). I really think that he's just having a bit of trouble at tournaments, but is going to turn it around. Sure his results have been poor recently, but anyone who's been a professional gamer as long as he has must have the dedication to turn that kind of slump around, or they would never have reached that point.


I can't help but agree with this. Imagine the pressure of not only being on one of the greatest teams outside Korea, being a relatively good BW foreigner, and slumping, all while knowing that the entire SC community is "pressuring" (for lack of a better word) him to have good results. Everyone wants to see Incontrol (and this applies to Tyler as well) do well in tournaments and know they can, which can't help but add to the pressure when they don't.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 06:47:40
December 27 2011 06:34 GMT
#160
On December 27 2011 08:48 justsayinbro wrote:
incontrol should focus on anything with esports except for playing the game.
he is an iconic figure with stog, nasl season1, TL, and such. but he is not that great at playing.

about time he accepts this fact and focus on things that he is good at. I can see him making a good manager/caster/organizer/host/etc. just not a good player.

maybe he will prove otherwise, but I stopped putting my money on incontrol so many MLGs ago.

That's not for you to say but for him to say. If he enjoys what he's doing who are you to tell him he can't do it and should be doing something else? MYOB. Invitationals are not merit based anyway but based on draw/popularity in addition to some merit. I think inc has the first two covered which is more than enough.

If you want 100% merit based competitions don't watch any tournaments but GSL... wait... they polluted the pool too with IdrA and Sen and other popular invites. Just stop watching SC2.
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