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On December 26 2011 04:59 Toppp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 02:40 TheSubtleArt wrote:On December 26 2011 02:36 Liight wrote:
This thread is going to be packed with bitter replys from underskilled diamond players who criticize incontrolls sc2 skill back and forth even tho it has nothing to do with the subject.
Why dont people bash day9 as much as Incontroll? Both of them do shitloads for the community and either are GSL level in skill, wich seems to be peoples main focus when a proplayer does anything at all here. Because Day9 isn't being invited into tournaments...? I don't think InControl deserved an invite but he's a passionate guy who's done a lot for the community so obviously hoping for him to do well. Lol, you're a joke. If there's anyone in the SC2 scene that deserves a invite to a tournament like HSC 4, It's incontrol. Perhaps you did not watch HSC 3 and do not know of the atmosphere at these tournaments...?? Also, all of you people trying so hard discounting iNcontroL's passion, dedication, skill level, and motivation to improve, and even questioning his invite, are a special kind of sad.
Special kind of sad because....? Can't doubt his passion but you'd be delusional to think Inc's recent results show he's on the same tier as the players he's competing against. IMO there are players more deserving of an invite, that's all. I'm still gonna enjoy the tourney, and if Incontrol proves me dead wrong I'll be happy because he's a great character and brings a lot to the community. I just don't see it happening.
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iNcontroL, best of luck @ HSC4! Although a bit early - Welcome to Europe and enjoy your stay!
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Incontrol + HSC is going to be insanely fun to watch. Looking forward to the tournament.
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I really don't think he should have been invited but good luck in 2012
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On December 26 2011 00:59 TrollingGUY wrote:
nice decision by Take to invite a diamond player, it will be fun to watch :D
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I don't see why he was banned. Incontrol IS diamond/ low master in korea last time I checked.
gl geoff
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On December 26 2011 11:14 ratzp0li wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 00:59 TrollingGUY wrote:
nice decision by Take to invite a diamond player, it will be fun to watch :D
User was banned for this post. I don't see why he was banned. Incontrol IS diamond/ low master in korea last time I checked. gl geoff
"TrollingGUY" saying it would be "fun to watch"
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One of the few pro gamers who I would actually want to hang out with. Too bad his level of skill is so far below the others. I don't think he'll do well in the tournament but he will definitely be the coolest person there.
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On December 26 2011 11:14 ratzp0li wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 00:59 TrollingGUY wrote:
nice decision by Take to invite a diamond player, it will be fun to watch :D
User was banned for this post. I don't see why he was banned. Incontrol IS diamond/ low master in korea last time I checked. gl geoff
You must have watched when he first got his kr account as he is actually high masters on korea and ive seen him play korean gm's as well.
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On December 26 2011 06:55 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 04:06 Mzh wrote:On December 26 2011 03:59 taitanik wrote:On December 26 2011 03:28 GrungyMunchy wrote:
Seriously, I love Tyler, but why didn't he get this amount of shit that iNcontroL is getting for having been invited to Homestory Cup III? Sometimes you people can be really predictable. because this is thread abour incontrol if there will be thread about tyler he will get shit too. btw atleast tyler isnt trying to cover his lack of skill by being funny and cool guy in every sc2 show possible Wow. This statement is... I don't even know. Are you saying that he is acting as a funny and cool guy on several popular shows to try and cover for his supposed "lack of skill"? Okay. I can understand where he comes from though. The fact is, Incontrol was acting kinda cocky on SotG before he had to face Boxer in an MLG (the first Boxer attended...Anaheim, was it?), saying that Boxer was the easiest Korean by far and that it would probably be a free win. Well, Boxer destroyed him that time and Boxer is now Code S, something that Incontrol could probably never dream of. I like Incontrol, but only as an eSports personality, not as an SC2 player, and I think people have the right to say so. At this point, the distinction must be made, it would be unfair to bash the personality because he's 0-10 in MLG sets since the beginning of times.
You do know most people who predicts Boxer's outcome in MLG thinks he will not get far. Plus, you are are bringing up a game when Boxer had lost games in the GSL. I also think he was out of Code A even.
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I'm not a fan of Incontrol as a player. I prefer to watch strong players with tournament results under their belts. Incontrol is, in my opinion, not a strong player.
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I don't feel my opinion entitles me to openly bash him for his comparative lack of skill. I admire his work ethic and his desire to hang in there with the best of the best. I am aware of all the things that he has done for the foreign SC2 community outside of tournament results.
If he got invited to this tournament, it is because of the accumulation of all the work that he has put in to make himself known in the SC2 community. He will most likely do very poorly in the tournament. I wish him well nonetheless.
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gl in 2012 Geoff, hope next year is better for you in terms of results.
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I don't rate Incontrol at all as a professional player, but inviting him to HSC 4 is a great move, because HSC is about having a fun tournament with a great atmosphere.
Inc may not be the best SC2 player, but he's going to be great when it comes to the rest of SC2, which is sitting around in Take's apartment talking about SC2, commentating, and having a laugh with other top level SC2 players.
If it was any other invitational then it might be somewhat disappointing, but a HSC4 invite definitely won't be wasted in Inc.
And if Khaldor makes it, then we will have Inc and Khaldor in a room together, which is what every SC2 fan should be hoping for.
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iNcontroL will destroy everyone in 2012.
for whoever gets the reference
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On December 26 2011 08:03 Disposition1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 06:55 ZenithM wrote:On December 26 2011 04:06 Mzh wrote:On December 26 2011 03:59 taitanik wrote:On December 26 2011 03:28 GrungyMunchy wrote:
Seriously, I love Tyler, but why didn't he get this amount of shit that iNcontroL is getting for having been invited to Homestory Cup III? Sometimes you people can be really predictable. because this is thread abour incontrol if there will be thread about tyler he will get shit too. btw atleast tyler isnt trying to cover his lack of skill by being funny and cool guy in every sc2 show possible Wow. This statement is... I don't even know. Are you saying that he is acting as a funny and cool guy on several popular shows to try and cover for his supposed "lack of skill"? Okay. I can understand where he comes from though. The fact is, Incontrol was acting kinda cocky on SotG before he had to face Boxer in an MLG (the first Boxer attended...Anaheim, was it?), saying that Boxer was the easiest Korean by far and that it would probably be a free win. Well, Boxer destroyed him that time and Boxer is now Code S, something that Incontrol could probably never dream of. I like Incontrol, but only as an eSports personality, not as an SC2 player, and I think people have the right to say so. At this point, the distinction must be made, it would be unfair to bash the personality because he's 0-10 in MLG sets since the beginning of times. do you think he should go into every match expecting to lose? of course hes gonna say hes gonna win. then hes gonna damn well try his hardest because hes got a damn good attitude. you should go into every game, whether its against dippty derp or boxer expecting to win or else youre already playing at a disadvantage. i also think youre exaggerating the part about "probably free win". you should go back and listen to what he actually says
I think he has the right mindset now. He should never say he's the favorite in a pro-game anymore because it's rarely true, but I think he knows that by now. At the time of Anaheim, he was still believing in being a top player, because of his results at Dallas 2010, where he battled TLO (yeah...TLO) for a 4th place finish, and managed to sneak proxy pylons in the guy's main.
I don't think Incontrol honestly expects to win much anymore, but he can say things like "I will try my hardest", no denying that, and I wish him good luck.
A fun fact that I like to point out: Incontrol is a top Liquibet member, and Liquibet includes NASL matches where he played, all 7 of them. All 7 of them were loses, and my guess here is that Incontrol realistically bet himself as the loser in those liquibets. He is aware of the level of skill he's at right now, don't worry, those "I will win" shenanigans are just for show and sportmanship, and it's all good.
Personally I'm glad to have him at HSC4, he should bring a lot of fun commentaries, but don't expect too much gosu Starcraft 2 play out of him.
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Inviting Incontrol for HSC4 was a huge disappointment for me. I was hoping that all invites would go out to good + likeable players
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I do think inControl's inclusion in HomeStory Cup IV is kind of questionable, there are plenty of comparable or better players who didn't get it. I think that image and popularity is certainly important but there should at least be some major consideration for skill as well.
To people looking forward to seeing inControl, that's well and good but it's not like his actual play is mind-blowing or especially creative and he's going there to compete. Ultimately, this is an issue that arrises with heavy invite based tournaments in general.
That said, I love HomeStory Cup and its not like his presence is going to ruin it for me in the slightest.
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good interview but i dont really get why he gets invited to the homestorycup. Hes not good enough as a player and his casting is kinda terrible too. i guess TaKe wants his viewers.
should be the same reason for the destiny invite. cant blame TaKe for that though. Still its kinda sad that bad players get spots in a 32 players tournament where there are so many better players not being invited instead.
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Oh my god this is my opportunity to express my undying hatred of an individual who not only has done nothing to me personally but should I meet him in person would probably be quite friendly! Gosh, I hope he reads this so he can see how much time I spent breaking down statistics showing just how awful of a player he is. And who does this jerk think he is even mentioning the name Naniwa!? This whole tournament is just ruined for me!
God these threads drive me insane sometimes, people never change.
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Pumped to see if incontrol can actually put in the work and show some kind of result in this tourney, I'm always very happy to see hardwork pay off for people and always enjoy the opportunity to laugh at the lazy. GL sir and lets see if you can really stick to your motivation this time!
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