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On December 16 2011 23:15 Skyreaper wrote:
Can some one give a link about official original agreement on LxP?
There isn't one online. There is a press release.
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On December 16 2011 23:10 jellyjello wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 22:44 skipgamer wrote:On December 16 2011 22:37 jellyjello wrote:On December 16 2011 20:36 Soma.bokforlag wrote:On December 16 2011 20:18 jellyjello wrote:
blame game in this thread is epic. it's highly entertaining. what's funny is that neither MLG nor GOM cares; they had already moved on. you really think that GOM doesnt care that half the international community think they have acted in a stupid way? they wont give naniwa his code s-spot back, they acted in affect and to stand up and say "we were wrong, sorry" now is indeed impossible, but i find it highly unlikely they will act in this manner again. i would even say it is unlikely gom will keep having meaningless games in their tournaments, in that way naniwa may have done a e-sports a great favor Go ahead and keep on waiting for GOM's "apology". In the meanwhile, there will be more GSLs and GSTLs, and who knows even KeSPA might jump in the SC2 market, and you know what, people will watch it over and over again, period. This is not to say who is right or wrong in this whole drama. All major parties involved in this incident already came out with each of their own official statement, and they are now moving on to the next thing on their agenda, because you know, esports is a business entity and they can't simply cling on to what had happened. I had my own opinions on the whole matter and I've stated them more than once. I've read all official statements from all parties and understood their positions. And now I've moved on too. This is not the end of the world for Naniwa or GOM. Nani will be back for GSLs and GOM will provide it to him. Nani didn't do any favors for GOM. If anything, Nani was the catalyst that caused this whole shit storm drama. But what is done is done. Seriously, how many dead horses can we beat on? There are a lot of people here who have such unrealistic views on the topic such as demanding that GOM needs to come out clean (what?) and apologize (yeah right...). Who are you to demand an apology from GOM? Technically speaking, GOM doesn't owe you guys anything. If you don't like the way GOM is doing their business, then all you need to do is stop supporting their products. If you feel that you are cheated out of something, then it is in your own right to sue them. Argh. The problem with this situation, is that there is nothing to stop GOM from doing it again, unless they issue an apology, admitting fault is incredibly important, even if there are no legal repercussions. Presently, a precedent has been set; there is now nothing to stop them from cancelling an agreement with MLG, IEM, NASL, or any other party with which they make an agreement in the future, without informing them of the change! Let's assume Naniwa did not probe rush Nestea, he played a straight up game and lost. There is nothing to say GSL weren't going to, or couldn't have turned around and said "you aren't getting a code S spot." Despite him, MLG, his team, his fans, and the entire foreign community thinking that he had already earned it! If you don't see the problem with that, then there's nothing else I guess I can say that will help you realise what is so inherently and utterly wrong with that situation. It doesn't work like that. Reputation is something that's dear to GOM (or any other major business organizations). I don't doubt for a second that GOM has learned from this incident.
I'm gonna be honest and say I doubt it. GOM not giving out bans to CoCa while rescinding Nani's spot for either unilateral action without informing players involved or stretching rules for the sole purpose of punishing a specific action. If that's not a double standard I don't know what is. To pile on the issue, MC's antics and Keen's celebration are brushed off as players expressing themselves without disrespecting the other players, a rule on which Nani was punished (or not!)...yeah right.
I'll see GOM's action before I believe in their "professionalism".
PS: Rescinding a spot or prize (as is the case here) is a big deal, Nani earned the spot through spectacular playing abilities, and he had it taken away for a borderline discipline issue not stipulated in the rules. Unacceptable.
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On December 16 2011 23:13 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 22:32 yeint wrote:On December 16 2011 22:17 NHY wrote:On December 16 2011 22:05 yeint wrote:On December 16 2011 21:57 NHY wrote:
The news article was not written after the tournament. It was written when NaNiwa made winners bracket final.
It seems that GOM didn't tell MLG specifically, but they did announce the change publicly. Making the winners bracket final means he's the highest placing non-Code S player and that means he's earned Code S, no matter what. So they announced the change after Naniwa earned it. Edit: The part where "it is within GSL's jurisdiction to adjust placement" is also the part of the agreement. I'm not claiming they're not legally allowed to do what they did. I'm claiming what they did is incredibly unethical. If you can't read the article because it is in Korean, then stop making assumptions. The article is about whether NaNiwa will be invited to GSL now that he is the highest non-code S player in Providence. It's not any kind of announcement. The announcement was a month ago. The announcement a month ago didn't say a damn thing about GOM unilaterally ending the MLG/GSL exhange program, which explicitly stated that during all the 2011 pro circuit events, the highest placing non-Code S player would be awarded a Code S seed. All it said was that their format for code S was changing, and that format included two foreign seeds. The so called agreement also states that 4 Koreans will be placed into Championsip Pool for all the 2011 pro circuit events. Where's your outrage at MLG for not keeping their exact word?
I already addressed this ridiculous point, but I'll do it again.
GOM doesn't care if 4 more Koreans get sent to the finals. It doesn't benefit them, it in fact hinders them by causing scheduling issues for players. Koreans being sent to MLG is the "What MLG wants" part of the deal. The "What GOM wants" part of the deal is getting foreign fan favorites seeded into Code S. Neither party represents actual players so they don't really give a shit who goes where, as long as viewer numbers increase.
Also, there is no championship pool at the finals. This was know from the start of the 2011 circuit.
4) He didn't earn it. What's the problem with saying that?
Because it's not true. The fact that GOM unilaterally decided they didn't feel like honoring the agreement that was made public doesn't mean they're not ethically bound to honor it. Naniwa, and everyone else, entered Providence with the knowledge that Code S seeding was part of the rewards offered. It was GOM's responsibility to publicize that this wasn't the case BEFORE the tournament, not make some statement in Korean once Naniwa was already in the finals.
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On December 16 2011 23:05 skipgamer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 22:50 jianming wrote:On December 16 2011 22:44 skipgamer wrote:On December 16 2011 22:37 jellyjello wrote:On December 16 2011 20:36 Soma.bokforlag wrote:On December 16 2011 20:18 jellyjello wrote:
blame game in this thread is epic. it's highly entertaining. what's funny is that neither MLG nor GOM cares; they had already moved on. you really think that GOM doesnt care that half the international community think they have acted in a stupid way? they wont give naniwa his code s-spot back, they acted in affect and to stand up and say "we were wrong, sorry" now is indeed impossible, but i find it highly unlikely they will act in this manner again. i would even say it is unlikely gom will keep having meaningless games in their tournaments, in that way naniwa may have done a e-sports a great favor Go ahead and keep on waiting for GOM's "apology". In the meanwhile, there will be more GSLs and GSTLs, and who knows even KeSPA might jump in the SC2 market, and you know what, people will watch it over and over again, period. This is not to say who is right or wrong in this whole drama. All major parties involved in this incident already came out with each of their own official statement, and they are now moving on to the next thing on their agenda, because you know, esports is a business entity and they can't simply cling on to what had happened. I had my own opinions on the whole matter and I've stated them more than once. I've read all official statements from all parties and understood their positions. And now I've moved on too. This is not the end of the world for Naniwa or GOM. Nani will be back for GSLs and GOM will provide it to him. Nani didn't do any favors for GOM. If anything, Nani was the catalyst that caused this whole shit storm drama. But what is done is done. Seriously, how many dead horses can we beat on? There are a lot of people here who have such unrealistic views on the topic such as demanding that GOM needs to come out clean (what?) and apologize (yeah right...). Who are you to demand an apology from GOM? Technically speaking, GOM doesn't owe you guys anything. If you don't like the way GOM is doing their business, then all you need to do is stop supporting their products. If you feel that you are cheated out of something, then it is in your own right to sue them. Argh. The problem with this situation, is that there is nothing to stop GOM from doing it again, unless they issue an apology, admitting fault is incredibly important, even if there are no legal repercussions. Presently, a precedent has been set; there is now nothing to stop them from cancelling an agreement with MLG, IEM, NASL, or any other party with which they make an agreement in the future, without informing them of the change! Let's assume Naniwa did not probe rush Nestea, he played a straight up game and lost. There is nothing to say GSL weren't going to, or couldn't have turned around and said "you aren't getting a code S spot." Despite him, MLG, his team, his fans, and the entire foreign community thinking that he had already earned it! If you don't see the problem with that, then there's nothing else I guess I can say that will help you realise what is so inherently and utterly wrong with that situation. Tighter contracts can prevent this from happening again. It looks liek MLG and GOM agreed beforehand that they could do things like that. It's irrelevant if they agreed beforehand that they could do things like that. They didn't let the players know! MLG were advertising that a Code S seed was a part of the prize for the tournament, therefore a Code S seed WAS a part of the prize for the tournament!!! Perhaps even the onus may be on MLG, but I really doubt it. I'm sure if they did have an agreement it would have stated that should any changes be made to the agreement it would have to be communicated! To take a prize away from someone because they broke rules in an unprecedented manner is fine... To say they had never earned the prize in the first place is wrong! (feel like I've come full circle on my opinion, at least I know some more facts about the situation, but still, there is a massive problem with how it all went down.)
You can't look at Code S seed in LxP as a prize given out by MLG. GOM is giving the seed to the player, not MLG.
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That would be the press release version of it. An actual agreement would be 10 times longer.
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On December 16 2011 23:22 NHY wrote:That would be the press release version of it. An actual agreement would be 10 times longer.
^ wtf?
You're asking for something that only GOM and MLG would be privy to?
I think your opinions in this thread are now invalid.
On December 16 2011 23:25 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 23:22 skipgamer wrote:On December 16 2011 23:22 NHY wrote:That would be the press release version of it. An actual agreement would be 10 times longer. ^ wtf? You're asking for something that only GOM and MLG would be privy to? I think your opinions in this thread are now invalid. Are you blind...? I didn't ask for it.
edit: My bad, I got you and Skyreaper confused. Sorry, there's a few conversations going on here 
On December 16 2011 23:21 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 23:05 skipgamer wrote:On December 16 2011 22:50 jianming wrote:On December 16 2011 22:44 skipgamer wrote:On December 16 2011 22:37 jellyjello wrote:On December 16 2011 20:36 Soma.bokforlag wrote:On December 16 2011 20:18 jellyjello wrote:
blame game in this thread is epic. it's highly entertaining. what's funny is that neither MLG nor GOM cares; they had already moved on. you really think that GOM doesnt care that half the international community think they have acted in a stupid way? they wont give naniwa his code s-spot back, they acted in affect and to stand up and say "we were wrong, sorry" now is indeed impossible, but i find it highly unlikely they will act in this manner again. i would even say it is unlikely gom will keep having meaningless games in their tournaments, in that way naniwa may have done a e-sports a great favor Go ahead and keep on waiting for GOM's "apology". In the meanwhile, there will be more GSLs and GSTLs, and who knows even KeSPA might jump in the SC2 market, and you know what, people will watch it over and over again, period. This is not to say who is right or wrong in this whole drama. All major parties involved in this incident already came out with each of their own official statement, and they are now moving on to the next thing on their agenda, because you know, esports is a business entity and they can't simply cling on to what had happened. I had my own opinions on the whole matter and I've stated them more than once. I've read all official statements from all parties and understood their positions. And now I've moved on too. This is not the end of the world for Naniwa or GOM. Nani will be back for GSLs and GOM will provide it to him. Nani didn't do any favors for GOM. If anything, Nani was the catalyst that caused this whole shit storm drama. But what is done is done. Seriously, how many dead horses can we beat on? There are a lot of people here who have such unrealistic views on the topic such as demanding that GOM needs to come out clean (what?) and apologize (yeah right...). Who are you to demand an apology from GOM? Technically speaking, GOM doesn't owe you guys anything. If you don't like the way GOM is doing their business, then all you need to do is stop supporting their products. If you feel that you are cheated out of something, then it is in your own right to sue them. Argh. The problem with this situation, is that there is nothing to stop GOM from doing it again, unless they issue an apology, admitting fault is incredibly important, even if there are no legal repercussions. Presently, a precedent has been set; there is now nothing to stop them from cancelling an agreement with MLG, IEM, NASL, or any other party with which they make an agreement in the future, without informing them of the change! Let's assume Naniwa did not probe rush Nestea, he played a straight up game and lost. There is nothing to say GSL weren't going to, or couldn't have turned around and said "you aren't getting a code S spot." Despite him, MLG, his team, his fans, and the entire foreign community thinking that he had already earned it! If you don't see the problem with that, then there's nothing else I guess I can say that will help you realise what is so inherently and utterly wrong with that situation. Tighter contracts can prevent this from happening again. It looks liek MLG and GOM agreed beforehand that they could do things like that. It's irrelevant if they agreed beforehand that they could do things like that. They didn't let the players know! MLG were advertising that a Code S seed was a part of the prize for the tournament, therefore a Code S seed WAS a part of the prize for the tournament!!! Perhaps even the onus may be on MLG, but I really doubt it. I'm sure if they did have an agreement it would have stated that should any changes be made to the agreement it would have to be communicated! To take a prize away from someone because they broke rules in an unprecedented manner is fine... To say they had never earned the prize in the first place is wrong! (feel like I've come full circle on my opinion, at least I know some more facts about the situation, but still, there is a massive problem with how it all went down.) You can't look at Code S seed in LxP as a prize given out by MLG. GOM is giving the seed to the player, not MLG.
But MLG is awarding the seed.
If I enter a qualifier tournament, that says if I earn top 3 I will enter a bigger tournament, I expect to be given entry to that bigger tournament. Regardless of who is actually running that bigger tournament. Either the qualifier, or the bigger tournament needs to be held accountable.
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3) Naniwa didn't earn Code S spot. Either GOM is lying about it, in which case you can't make case 2) or GOM is telling the truth, in which case Naniwa didn't earn Code S spot. We also don't know what GOM did since Providence. I don't know personally what conversation took place between NaNiwa and GOM but I'd imagine that GOM told NaNiwa that he was going to get Code S spot for the next season. And for NaNiwa, it would not have occured to him to ask if it was specifically because of MLG/GSL exchange.
Why would Naniwa have any reason to suspect MLG were wrong about the prize they say he won at their tournament? A player shows up to a tournament, performs well enough to get second place. Tournament organisation, along with casters etc, tells player he has won a prize. Is it weird that the player actually thinks he has won the prize?!
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On December 16 2011 23:19 hmsrenown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 23:10 jellyjello wrote:On December 16 2011 22:44 skipgamer wrote:On December 16 2011 22:37 jellyjello wrote:On December 16 2011 20:36 Soma.bokforlag wrote:On December 16 2011 20:18 jellyjello wrote:
blame game in this thread is epic. it's highly entertaining. what's funny is that neither MLG nor GOM cares; they had already moved on. you really think that GOM doesnt care that half the international community think they have acted in a stupid way? they wont give naniwa his code s-spot back, they acted in affect and to stand up and say "we were wrong, sorry" now is indeed impossible, but i find it highly unlikely they will act in this manner again. i would even say it is unlikely gom will keep having meaningless games in their tournaments, in that way naniwa may have done a e-sports a great favor Go ahead and keep on waiting for GOM's "apology". In the meanwhile, there will be more GSLs and GSTLs, and who knows even KeSPA might jump in the SC2 market, and you know what, people will watch it over and over again, period. This is not to say who is right or wrong in this whole drama. All major parties involved in this incident already came out with each of their own official statement, and they are now moving on to the next thing on their agenda, because you know, esports is a business entity and they can't simply cling on to what had happened. I had my own opinions on the whole matter and I've stated them more than once. I've read all official statements from all parties and understood their positions. And now I've moved on too. This is not the end of the world for Naniwa or GOM. Nani will be back for GSLs and GOM will provide it to him. Nani didn't do any favors for GOM. If anything, Nani was the catalyst that caused this whole shit storm drama. But what is done is done. Seriously, how many dead horses can we beat on? There are a lot of people here who have such unrealistic views on the topic such as demanding that GOM needs to come out clean (what?) and apologize (yeah right...). Who are you to demand an apology from GOM? Technically speaking, GOM doesn't owe you guys anything. If you don't like the way GOM is doing their business, then all you need to do is stop supporting their products. If you feel that you are cheated out of something, then it is in your own right to sue them. Argh. The problem with this situation, is that there is nothing to stop GOM from doing it again, unless they issue an apology, admitting fault is incredibly important, even if there are no legal repercussions. Presently, a precedent has been set; there is now nothing to stop them from cancelling an agreement with MLG, IEM, NASL, or any other party with which they make an agreement in the future, without informing them of the change! Let's assume Naniwa did not probe rush Nestea, he played a straight up game and lost. There is nothing to say GSL weren't going to, or couldn't have turned around and said "you aren't getting a code S spot." Despite him, MLG, his team, his fans, and the entire foreign community thinking that he had already earned it! If you don't see the problem with that, then there's nothing else I guess I can say that will help you realise what is so inherently and utterly wrong with that situation. It doesn't work like that. Reputation is something that's dear to GOM (or any other major business organizations). I don't doubt for a second that GOM has learned from this incident. I'm gonna be honest and say I doubt it. GOM not giving out bans to CoCa while rescinding Nani's spot for either unilateral action without informing players involved or stretching rules for the sole purpose of punishing a specific action. If that's not a double standard I don't know what is. To pile on the issue, MC's antics and Keen's celebration are brushed off as players expressing themselves without disrespecting the other players, a rule on which Nani was punished (or not!)...yeah right. I'll see GOM's action before I believe in their "professionalism". PS: Rescinding a spot or prize (as is the case here) is a big deal, Nani earned the spot through spectacular playing abilities, and he had it taken away for a borderline discipline issue not stipulated in the rules. Unacceptable.
You know what is and what isn't there for Code S seed agreement or GSL agreement?
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On December 16 2011 23:22 skipgamer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 23:22 NHY wrote:That would be the press release version of it. An actual agreement would be 10 times longer. ^ wtf? You're asking for something that only GOM and MLG would be privy to? I think your opinions in this thread are now invalid.
Are you blind...? I didn't ask for it.
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On December 16 2011 23:13 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 22:32 yeint wrote:On December 16 2011 22:17 NHY wrote:On December 16 2011 22:05 yeint wrote:On December 16 2011 21:57 NHY wrote:
The news article was not written after the tournament. It was written when NaNiwa made winners bracket final.
It seems that GOM didn't tell MLG specifically, but they did announce the change publicly. Making the winners bracket final means he's the highest placing non-Code S player and that means he's earned Code S, no matter what. So they announced the change after Naniwa earned it. Edit: The part where "it is within GSL's jurisdiction to adjust placement" is also the part of the agreement. I'm not claiming they're not legally allowed to do what they did. I'm claiming what they did is incredibly unethical. If you can't read the article because it is in Korean, then stop making assumptions. The article is about whether NaNiwa will be invited to GSL now that he is the highest non-code S player in Providence. It's not any kind of announcement. The announcement was a month ago. The announcement a month ago didn't say a damn thing about GOM unilaterally ending the MLG/GSL exhange program, which explicitly stated that during all the 2011 pro circuit events, the highest placing non-Code S player would be awarded a Code S seed. All it said was that their format for code S was changing, and that format included two foreign seeds. The so called agreement also states that 4 Koreans will be placed into Championsip Pool for all the 2011 pro circuit events. Where's your outrage at MLG for not keeping their exact word? The format before the change had MLG seed and it was gone for 2012. Instead there were 2 sponsor seeds. Show nested quote +1) They entered a deal through which they publicly declared that Code S seeding was part of the prize package of the MLG 2011 Pro Circuit.
2) They then unilaterally reneged on that for Providence, without making any effort to communicate this to the involved parties, i.e. MLG and the Western esports scene.
3) They made a random comment about "we haven't decided" after Naniwa earned this prize, and then sat on it for almost a month, until Naniwa offended their sensibilities.
4) At this point they said he doesn't get the seed, and that he had never earned the seed in the first place.
That's what I think they did to be called unethical. 1) Nothing there 2) It is up to GOM to decide Code S seed in MLG/GSL exchange, so yeah it was unilateral. When GOM announced their new format it included the change to Code S seed. They could've communicated better, but miscommunication is hardly unethical unless you believe it was done so deliberately to deceive people. 3) Naniwa didn't earn Code S spot. Either GOM is lying about it, in which case you can't make case 2) or GOM is telling the truth, in which case Naniwa didn't earn Code S spot. We also don't know what GOM did since Providence. I don't know personally what conversation took place between NaNiwa and GOM but I'd imagine that GOM told NaNiwa that he was going to get Code S spot for the next season. And for NaNiwa, it would not have occured to him to ask if it was specifically because of MLG/GSL exchange. 4) He didn't earn it. What's the problem with saying that?
GOM's unofficial spokesperson?
Oh boy. MLG held up their end of the bargain. Providence has its unique format from the start of the season. It is impossible that GOM is not aware of the special format before or during negotiations.
The announcement on gomtv.net in October mentioned only Blizzard Cup and GSL format. Not a word on the official press release was about the source of the Code S players.
If such statement that specified the current "seeding" plan was published only in Korean, then it shows either gross negligence to contempt to both foreign players and spectators alike.
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You're in a large room, with a divider between two different sections of it. You are here because you were told that there would be $5 dollars up for grabs for someone that attended. There is an announcement made that only one side of the divider gets to hear, stating that instead of $5 dollars you now receive a hat worth $5.
At the end of the day, someone from the side that didn't hear the announcement is chosen to be the lucky winner. He gets a $5 hat. He's confused.
It's not wrong that this hat was now the prize, but not informing everyone involved that the hat was the prize is disrespectful.
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GOM fucked up big time and without a huge apology to nani and the foreign community I dont think theyll ever regain whatever respect they had before. Also, they should ban some of the korean pros, especially Choya for their twitter comments if they really mean it with their "players need to behave professionally" argument. I mean he called nani "bastard" on his twitter, if that isnt worse than 6 probe rushing I dont know what is. Right now its all too clear that all GOM cares about is their profits and nothing else.
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On December 16 2011 23:27 ScareCrow` wrote:
You're in a large room, with a divider between two different sections of it. You are here because you were told that there would be $5 dollars up for grabs for someone that attended. There is an announcement made that only one side of the divider gets to hear, stating that instead of $5 dollars you now receive a hat worth $5.
At the end of the day, someone from the side that didn't hear the announcement is chosen to be the lucky winner. He gets a $5 hat. He's confused.
It's not wrong that this hat was now the prize, but not informing everyone involved that the hat was the prize is disrespectful.
I think it's wrong that the hat was made the prize after people got in the room. Because, really, no one said anything about the hat until November 21st, and even then what they said was that they're still deciding between the five bucks and the hat.
(love your analogy though  )
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I really want to see a original agreement if the agreement clearly says that Providence was included or not. Because a manger from GOM twitted that Providence wasn't included
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On December 16 2011 23:30 Skyreaper wrote:
I really want to see a original agreement if the agreement clearly says that Providence was included or not. Because a manger from GOM twitted that Providence wasn't included
And MLG's CEO said it was in an official statement.
I'll take that over what some random dude from GOM tweeted.
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On December 16 2011 23:30 Skyreaper wrote:
I really want to see a original agreement if the agreement clearly says that Providence was included or not. Because a manger from GOM twitted that Providence wasn't included
Really???
Do you have a link to this tweet, or can you quote it?
Because that's really interesting... And finally explains the misunderstanding!
It turns this into a "he said"-"she said" argument (and will probably result in people taking sides), but still... It could wrap it up at least.
edit: eagerly awaiting the tweet. (and going through the thread incase it was already posted) It really will make sense to me why GOM didn't talk to MLG about the seed from providence if they thought it wasn't included in the League Exchange Program all along.
double-edit: Actually, wtf am I thinking... GOM have said they changed the seed to be for the Blizzard Cup, not GSL, so they obviously had planned for the League Exchange Program to include providence.
I dunno, screw this whole situation, I'm assuming it will never go resolved.
My confidence on the level of e-sports professionalism even on the highest tier has dropped tenfold. Mr Chae, Sundance, they really are just kids playing in a big sand lot at the end of the day.
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I agree with Naniwa getting some kind of punishment, but the fact that MLG was not notified about it beforehand is pretty bad.
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I really dont get why GOM just dont see how it would benefit them to make a statement and apologize to MLG and to the players attending MLG providence. They dont even have to mention Naniwa. Quantic gaming and Naniwa knew what had to be done and came out with an apology when they had offended ppl. Im pretty sure Naniwa doesnt think what he did was truly wrong but he realises he offended ppl and thus did the professional thing. Now GOM has offended lots of ppl and they fail to live up to professional standards.
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On December 16 2011 23:39 Fjodorov wrote:
I really dont get why GOM just dont see how it would benefit them to make a statement and apologize to MLG and to the players attending MLG providence. They dont even have to mention Naniwa. Quantic gaming and Naniwa knew what had to be done and came out with an apology when they had offended ppl. Im pretty sure Naniwa doesnt think what he did was truly wrong but he realises he offended ppl and thus did the professional thing. Now GOM has offended lots of ppl and they fail to live up to professional standards.
Well you should give GOM some time to evaluate the situation and come up with a statement, since it also took MLG several days to do so. But yeah, it's a communication error. The Information was there, but it wasn't presented well enough for everyone in the western scene to realise. So yeah, an apology would be nice.
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