• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:56
CET 14:56
KST 22:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1811Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What are former legends up to these days? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1973 users

Season 5 Map Pool Changes Announced - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
876 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 42 43 44 Next All
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 15 2011 02:34 GMT
#81
On December 15 2011 11:32 Keldory wrote:
They removed two of the only maps that you can FFE on. Thanks, Blizz, as if PvZ wasn't hard enough already.

I didn't know FFE was an opening for PvP or PvT.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 15 2011 02:35 GMT
#82
Maps look meh.

Wish they would remove the Gold from every map too.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
December 15 2011 02:35 GMT
#83
wait, on arid, is the spawn point near the "base" near the rocks, or the one not near rocks?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
December 15 2011 02:35 GMT
#84
On December 15 2011 11:34 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 11:32 johnnywup wrote:
On December 15 2011 11:32 Keldory wrote:
They removed two of the only maps that you can FFE on. Thanks, Blizz, as if PvZ wasn't hard enough already.

you can ffe on every map


You can't safely FFE on metal or xelnaga.

you have to make 2-3 cannons but yes you can
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
December 15 2011 02:35 GMT
#85
Where are the rocks? Was Dustin fired? Only 2 on the first map? I'm disappointed.

At the very least they removed some of the new crap ones.. Please remove shattered temple too!
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
December 15 2011 02:36 GMT
#86
nice to have another 1v1 map, imo, just keeps the map pool interesting
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
December 15 2011 02:36 GMT
#87
Most important of this: They only took out the non-tournament maps, so you can still downvote the two new maps, and have a downvote left for a tourney map, like before. I approve.

Arid Plateau: Hated it, then realized it was 2-player. That's a hard natural, but also a long rush distance, which mitigates that a bit. Beyond that.....this is actually really good! Easy third, fourth...even the fifth isn't two hard, so it naturally lends itself to a macro game. Nice and open, too.

Entombed Valley: ROCKS. But, actually, these rocks are used a lot better than I'm used to. You can take the third, and then kill the rocks while the hatch is morphing. In vertical and cross positions, there's an easy progression of bases. Horizontal positions I'm less fond of, but it's not terrible.

On the whole, these two maps are actually much, much better than what I've come to expect from Blizzard. It seems like they're getting better at this. Kind of sucks that the TL Open map won't be in this season, but I guess the next one's only in like March.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 15 2011 02:36 GMT
#88
On December 15 2011 11:35 johnnywup wrote:
wait, on arid, is the spawn point near the "base" near the rocks, or the one not near rocks?

I think we can be half-glass full kind of people, and assume Blizzard isn't that stupid.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
December 15 2011 02:36 GMT
#89
Ugh jesus good luck FFE'ing on Arid, what a nightmare
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 15 2011 02:36 GMT
#90
Personally I think there were better maps in that tournament, but hey, anything is good.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
December 15 2011 02:37 GMT
#91
Not sure how to feel about these maps yet, but I don't mind the removals.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 02:39:46
December 15 2011 02:37 GMT
#92
Hmm overall not that happy with the changes, I liked the two maps that they removed so sad they are gone, and the new 2 player one (Arid Plateau) looks really weird, looks tricky to FFE on it as well...

I do however like the 2nd new map, Entombed valley


On December 15 2011 11:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 11:32 Keldory wrote:
They removed two of the only maps that you can FFE on. Thanks, Blizz, as if PvZ wasn't hard enough already.

I didn't know FFE was an opening for PvP or PvT.

He specifically mentioned PvZ, are you trying to be a smartass or something? I can't see what there is to be happy about when your opening for 1/3 of your games is gimped.
PenguinWithNuke
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
250 Posts
December 15 2011 02:37 GMT
#93
I never played on abyssal caverns (except for one time, and I hated it). I actually kind of liked Nezarim Crypt, but Entombed Valley looks really nice.

I'm happy that metalopolis is still in the pool. I fucking looooove that map.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 02:39:05
December 15 2011 02:38 GMT
#94
Edit: Changed that, looks ok for now. Have to try them out
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
December 15 2011 02:38 GMT
#95
On December 15 2011 11:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 11:35 johnnywup wrote:
wait, on arid, is the spawn point near the "base" near the rocks, or the one not near rocks?

I think we can be half-glass full kind of people, and assume Blizzard isn't that stupid.



Dude they used to have steppes of war on ladder.
tranquilizer
Profile Joined July 2011
United States66 Posts
December 15 2011 02:38 GMT
#96
lol removing the 2 maps I have vetoed.. sick
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
lightsentry
Profile Joined May 2011
413 Posts
December 15 2011 02:38 GMT
#97
are we able to play on these somewhere or were they just released?
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
December 15 2011 02:38 GMT
#98
sweet- i think everyone can agree that Abyssal Caverns was a terrible map. These maps look like it is actually possible to take a third!

cant wait for these- also wondering which community map is going to get picked
Long live the Boss Toss!
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 15 2011 02:39 GMT
#99
On December 15 2011 11:38 Odal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 11:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On December 15 2011 11:35 johnnywup wrote:
wait, on arid, is the spawn point near the "base" near the rocks, or the one not near rocks?

I think we can be half-glass full kind of people, and assume Blizzard isn't that stupid.



Dude they used to have steppes of war on ladder.

And GSL used Steppes of War in their tournament.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
DoctaD
Profile Joined December 2010
35 Posts
December 15 2011 02:39 GMT
#100
add a poll for like or dislike plz
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 42 43 44 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
Mid Season Playoffs
ByuN vs KrystianerLIVE!
Spirit vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
Solar vs TBD
WardiTV950
IndyStarCraft 214
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko392
IndyStarCraft 214
SortOf 211
SC2Nice 45
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 69338
Sea 4387
Stork 735
Jaedong 568
ggaemo 389
Barracks 313
Soma 288
Mini 270
firebathero 244
Rush 155
[ Show more ]
sorry 131
PianO 121
Mong 82
Pusan 80
BRAT_OK 57
Snow 57
Sea.KH 51
Movie 40
soO 40
Sacsri 30
ToSsGirL 29
ajuk12(nOOB) 23
yabsab 16
Noble 15
Sexy 14
scan(afreeca) 13
Bale 13
Icarus 9
Shine 8
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
qojqva2142
XcaliburYe220
BananaSlamJamma168
League of Legends
C9.Mang0440
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2562
x6flipin899
allub181
markeloff28
Other Games
Grubby2032
singsing1793
B2W.Neo1743
Pyrionflax403
Fuzer 329
Hui .260
RotterdaM205
hiko200
QueenE27
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1971
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 51
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2044
• Jankos1558
Upcoming Events
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
OSC
3 days
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
4 days
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Patches Events
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-29
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.