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On December 18 2011 20:16 Msr wrote:
Knowing nani for years, I would say he did not mean his apology at all.

On December 18 2011 20:16 Msr wrote:
Knowing nani for years, I would say he did not mean his apology at all.

On December 16 2011 15:12 Chaggi wrote:


I think he should have apologized. But I think GOM's initial reaction (along with the Korean's) were too much. If you dont' have something good to say, just don't say it. I'm sure Naniwa isn't a bad person, and of course didn't mean for any of this to happen, but I agree with the decision from GOM that he should be punished. To discredit him and be like he's this and this and this, is just too much though

On December 18 2011 20:54 Slipspace wrote:
Idk what kind of organization punishes people for people for reasons based on "honor" and "integrity". No rules were broken. If he broke a rule, the severe punishment would make sense. As it stands, it's silly and uncivilized. Stay savage, Korea.

On December 18 2011 21:02 beamingrobot wrote:


Yay contradiction.

On December 18 2011 21:02 beamingrobot wrote:


Yay contradiction.

On December 18 2011 20:27 Learion wrote:


Me personally would only have done it as damages control, since it was a ridiculous punishment compared to what he did. It would as worst been a slap on wrist in the west. And don't understand people who are justifying it with "he has been banned before", in other cases he actually did something bad.

On December 18 2011 20:58 colate wrote:
I doubt NaNiwa meant what he said there. I mean, come on. He makes it sound as if he had a revelation after this incident. Suddenly, out of nowhere, thousands upon thousands of wild fans appear! He isn't that narrow minded? Clearly he must have known that his profession has fans and spectators as its foundation - the reason he even have bread on the table.

On December 18 2011 21:13 msl wrote:


I find it fascinating that one the one hand it is considered professional and even expected to be dishonest in the sense that it would have been OK to throw the game in a non-obvious manner but not in an obious one.
However when an appology is issued that might or might not have been crafted by PR professionals we immedeatly start to debatte if the apology is honest and from the heart. Have your cake and eat it too, as it were.

If you value professionalism over personality, here is a nice example of what you ultimately will get: Bland statements and players afraid to be humans instead of entertainment machines. It doesn't matter if the statement is damage control or heartfelt. It is what has been asked for by the community. Lesson learned, as it were, although I have my doubt that it was the right one.

On December 18 2011 21:21 LeibSaiLeib wrote:
reading threads like this allways makes me wonder how can people be so caring of other peoples buisness. You cant assume everyones perfect, just deal with it (or the way YOU want them to be).

The intelligent way:

I am looking fovard to the game, oh Naniwa threw it away, well i guess ill be looking for rematch.

The normal way of doing it :

I am TINGLING I WANA SEE THE GAME, Naniwa threw it away, FUCK THAT; WTF DUDE ASLEJAÖLSKJDASLDJ.

I guess thats why there is saying, haters gonna hate.

EDIT: But then again, most of e sports is probably built upon the second attitude.

On December 18 2011 21:29 Slipspace wrote:


actually the intelligent way would be "i am glad Naniwa chose to throw away the game because it is meaningless anyway in regard to the tournament and you can't exactly determine the better player based off of a best of 3 series anyway so naniwa actually gave me an hour of my life back"

On December 18 2011 21:33 LeibSaiLeib wrote:


Was trying to say, that the intelligent way is not to get emotional over something you have no control over.

But, as knowing the communty is doing it in the second way, you as intelligent human being can calmly think:"I guess he should have played the game, since there is more then just winning to e-sports."

On December 18 2011 21:19 iky43210 wrote:


nobody said it was ok to throw game in non-obvious manner, but obviously throwing games in obvious manner is really just sending out a message thinking that you are above everyone else. If you're going to cheat, don't announce to the class while doing it and think that makes you honest and it'll be fine.

On December 18 2011 21:13 msl wrote:


I find it fascinating that one the one hand it is considered professional and even expected to be dishonest in the sense that it would have been OK to throw the game in a non-obvious manner but not in an obious one.
However when an appology is issued that might or might not have been crafted by PR professionals we immedeatly start to debatte if the apology is honest and from the heart. Have your cake and eat it too, as it were.

If you value professionalism over personality, here is a nice example of what you ultimately will get: Bland statements and players afraid to be humans instead of entertainment machines. It doesn't matter if the statement is damage control or heartfelt. It is what has been asked for by the community. Lesson learned, as it were, although I have my doubt that it was the right one.