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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Which implies certain, rigid, and unbreakable standards. What NaNiwa did violated the said standards. In reality, many of us view SC2 as a simple entertainment, not to be compared with major league sports. In Western culture, we accept individualism and even applaud it. But the Koreans are attempting to raise the bar higher, building up a true professional scene. Hence, NaNiwa's behavior was in violation of the Korean cause and deserved punishment to deter similar incidents. | ||
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Skyreaper
70 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:34 Master_Blaster wrote: And has meaning according to whom? What is the standard. Stephano and Naniwa want tourney wins not TV spots. Who are you do tell them how to think about StarCraft? For them it's a tool not an altar. Well, NaNiwa also agreed that there is no such thing as meaningless game between two professional gamers in eSports. So What's your point? | ||
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Elizar
Germany431 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:53 Assirra wrote: If you mean the money hunter thing that was a mistranslation. thank you, this is good to know. so no apology is needed there. | ||
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MrLion
India93 Posts
I'm shocked how people can actually say he did nothing wrong. I guess it really is a difference of culture. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45975 Posts
Shit happens. We'll get over it. It was one game. Apology accepted. Best of luck to everyone in the future. Please don't do it again. Love you guys ♥ | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
On December 16 2011 02:21 Longshank wrote: Two things. That apology wasn't written by Naniwa and I've said countless of times 'I hope he'll learn from this' when Naniwa had screwed up in both SC2 and WC3, and he never did. I won't do that again, Naniwa will never change. The words above were taken directly from NaNi through dictation  | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
edit: nm, Im an idiot. Nothing to see here. | ||
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
 ] ) but you do need to carry yourself in such a fashion that yourself, your team, and your sponsors can continue to take pride in you as a player. | ||
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archonOOid
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ArneX
Sweden24 Posts
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monx
Canada1400 Posts
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Skyreaper
70 Posts
On December 16 2011 02:41 archonOOid wrote: he should apologize for his action but not for breaking any rules. GOM needs to step up it's professionalism by having a easily interpreted rule set. GOM already said that Nani didn't break any rules (technically). But it's clear that he disrespected his opponent Nestea and the sponsors that previously considered to give sponsor seed to Nani for Code S while being televised to thousands of people. | ||
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Falconpauunch
Korea (South)59 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:08 LiamTheZerg wrote: I respect the team, but have lost any respect to Naniwa or his cut & paste apology. Being an adult and a professional means being able to control yourself, which is something he has failed to show he is capable of time and time again. Also, i dislike the asking to reconsider for a second chance. He openly disrespected GOM during a tournament that was meant to celebrate a great year of StarCraft. It's only a month, he can and should wait. I don't understand where everyone gets this sense of entitlement from. You mess up, you accept your punishment, and you learn from it for next time. because in soccer icehockey and all other sports there are only very adult gentlemen ... guys if i hear you all i think this is like murderer and in soccer someone hit another guy in their balls or smash their faces ... dont overreact to such little things .... in worldchampionship teams play shit cause they dont care (already trough or WANT 2nd place etc) you expect best games and sometiems you see shit and unfair plays and fouls only ... you guys sometimes do like starcraft is the only buisness that is not 100% legit adult | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
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Skyreaper
70 Posts
On December 16 2011 02:49 Falconpauunch wrote: I feel as if GOMtv will forgive Naniwa, along with a lot of the korean starcraft 2 pros, but the decision will not change. There may still be some trash talk underneath the surface, because of how e-sports is still growing, but it's a great step in the right direction, and if Naniwa is sincere about this, then my respect for him has grown much bigger. Idra and Sen already received sponsor seed for Code S, but fans can still cheer NaNiwa to get a good result in GSL preleminary. | ||
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turamn
United States1374 Posts
On December 16 2011 02:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Very smart of Quantic and Naniwa to issue an apology. And it was a good apology at that. Shit happens. We'll get over it. It was one game. Apology accepted. Best of luck to everyone in the future. Please don't do it again. Love you guys ♥ This guy is what is wrong with this situation. Everyone in the entire universe is just willing to accept a forced apology and then sit on it, yet every month some different bull shit is coming up. And then we get another forced apology and everyone is happy again. How long can this keep up? Is it really okay to give someone who's obviously having a near impossible time of meeting the standards that his title implies 500 extra chances? The line needs to be drawn somewhere. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
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