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Krallman
Sweden713 Posts
On September 17 2012 14:40 GettingIt wrote: It didn't hurt that this was Stephanos first big tourny since joining EG, and he was going on an absolute rampage. No koreans I think actually, most people prefer to watch players they like and with personality rather then koreans with only pure skill. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On September 17 2012 20:52 Krallman wrote: No koreans I think actually, most people prefer to watch players they like and with personality rather then koreans with only pure skill. Implying that Koreans don't have personality? Can't believe it. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On September 17 2012 21:01 Type|NarutO wrote: Implying that Koreans don't have personality? Can't believe it. It's an exageration to imply that Koreans don't have personality, no doubt. But I would agree that most foreigners and their stories draw more attention than most Koreans. To me and to a lot of other SC2 fans, that means more fun. | ||
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Play Crack The Sky
13 Posts
On September 17 2012 20:52 Krallman wrote: No koreans I think actually, most people prefer to watch players they like and with personality rather then koreans with only pure skill. MC, MKP and DRG have a lot more personality than guys Lucifron and Vortix. It was big numbers because the times are really good for both NA and EU, because it has Blizzard's name on it and because it's the novelty of a one off 'King of Europe' tournament. Back when we had King of Europe tournaments all the time because Koreans didn't travel much viewers were far lower because everyone wanted the novelty of seeing Koreans play. The WCS Finals will completely destroy these numbers because China and Korea are a massive deal as the Dota International showed (500k concurrents makes the 100k we had this weekend look pretty modest). | ||
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
I also agree that the high viewers numbers was most likely because there were no Koreans in it. I personally turn the stream off when the top 4 are all Korean and I'm pretty sure there are a lot who do the same. | ||
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TmzZ666
Poland144 Posts
On September 17 2012 22:13 Champloo wrote: Awesome event, only downside was again Twitch. I also agree that the high viewers numbers was most likely because there were no Koreans in it. I personally turn the stream off when the top 4 are all Korean and I'm pretty sure there are a lot who do the same. You are plain wrong sir. It all depends who is actually playing and what event is, nothing to do with koreans imo. This was WCS Europe Finals dude - big event and who was playing - big guns. Audience was expected. Last but not least: EVENT WAS SPECTACULAR TO WATCH, grazt to DH CREW! And those Stephano Lucifron games - man! | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10680 Posts
On September 17 2012 22:13 Champloo wrote: Awesome event, only downside was again Twitch. I also agree that the high viewers numbers was most likely because there were no Koreans in it. I personally turn the stream off when the top 4 are all Korean and I'm pretty sure there are a lot who do the same. I kinda agree. Well, I don't turn it off "because" of only Koreans if I still have time, but a final of 2 players I'm really interested in makes be stay up longer than I should while I happily go to bed when 2 Koreans (which I don't know well) battle it out. | ||
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Zojukanji
China393 Posts
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mec
Sweden192 Posts
On September 17 2012 22:27 TmzZ666 wrote: You are plain wrong sir. It all depends who is actually playing and what event is, nothing to do with koreans imo. This was WCS Europe Finals dude - big event and who was playing - big guns. Audience was expected. Last but not least: EVENT WAS SPECTACULAR TO WATCH, grazt to DH CREW! And those Stephano Lucifron games - man! Is that not exactly what he said? Koreans are for the most part boring. | ||
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DBHErazor
Sweden181 Posts
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give.ViviD
Sweden235 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On September 17 2012 21:01 Type|NarutO wrote: Implying that Koreans don't have personality? Can't believe it. Yeah man, see a select few post that too often now. This event was going to do well regardless. You relate to them because you don't have to go through a translator and you can understand their English. We watch to be entertained and yet you still heard people complain in the live report: "Oh God, zvz see you guys later." You honestly think that is any different from the xenophobic comments we get? Nope. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On September 17 2012 23:27 mec wrote: Is that not exactly what he said? Koreans are for the most part boring. You have very limited exposure to them then. Generalizations will get you far in life. Go watch some group selections with subtitles. Then come back. How did you like Lowely's interviews? If you think some of the interviews are any different from what you get translated from some of the Koreans. I be baffled. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
Great tournament, one of the best ever for me! Unfortunatly didn't manage to watch that many games, but i'm watching some VODS! Thanks you blizzard and DH! | ||
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StateofReverie
United States633 Posts
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JKM
Denmark419 Posts
On September 17 2012 22:28 Velr wrote: I kinda agree. Well, I don't turn it off "because" of only Koreans if I still have time, but a final of 2 players I'm really interested in makes be stay up longer than I should while I happily go to bed when 2 Koreans (which I don't know well) battle it out. Agreed, why stay up for games where you simply don't care whether player a og b wins and have already satisfied your SC2 need by watching earlier games. This is the problem for most premier tournaments, Koreans whose personality is not outgoing reaching the final rounds. I think this makes many Europeans choose to go to bed at a proper time (MLG, NASL, IPL, etc oftentimes end between 1-3AM CEST on sundays, ie. sleep deprivation!). WCS EU goes to show two things: 1. You can have a very successfull tournament without 10-30 code A-S Koreans participating. 2. WCS is in itself attractive enough to pull high viewernumber. Stop holding WCS on top of other premier tournaments (WCS - USA / MLG and WCS - NA / MLG guilty of this!). Finaly, great production Dreamhack! Keep it up :-)! | ||
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NuKE[vZ]
United States249 Posts
To me whatever 4 are left in the tournament got there because they were better than everyone else, and the better players vs. each other only makes me want to watch more. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On September 17 2012 23:49 shell wrote: Why do people have a need to force others to think like they do? If many guys don't want so see a korean top10 just let it be.. Do we all have to like the same thing? We all watch GSL so it's not like anyone hates koreans.. we love and support them thru GSL! Great tournament, one of the best ever for me! Unfortunatly didn't manage to watch that many games, but i'm watching some VODS! Thanks you blizzard and DH! I'm not forcing anyone to like Koreans. I'm pointing out how oblivious they are every time they feel the need to post, "Oh so and so is no longer in it. Not going to watch," or "Only Koreans left not going to watch," or "ZvZ not going to watch." At the end of the day, it changes nothing and all they're doing is taking a dump in those threads. It doesn't change my viewing pleasure at all. They waste their time with those cheeky remarks. If they aren't happy with it then let your actions speak for itself instead of posting that shit. You don't find the entertainment in it? Fine. Not my problem, it's your's. It's not constructive. | ||
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Bedrock
United States395 Posts
Well done again DH, much props on the great production this past weekend. The best part? They release their analytics right afterwards. <3 | ||
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JKM
Denmark419 Posts
On September 18 2012 00:01 NuKE[vZ] wrote: I don't understand why people would turn off the stream when there's only Koreans left... are you telling me people watch these tournaments for things other than the matches? To me whatever 4 are left in the tournament got there because they were better than everyone else, and the better players vs. each other only makes me want to watch more. Oftentimes American premier tournaments ends between 1-3AM for us Europeans, so I will go to bed unless if I am very excited about one or two of the finalists. If you don't know or don't care about the two finalists I might just as well go to bed and watch the games at some later time if they are recommended. I often watch the finals of European premier tournaments, but those also end at reasonable hours so I am not punished with a horrible monday by watching it. | ||
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