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North America Season 4 GM Ladder Errors - Page 4

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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2919 Posts
November 01 2011 19:55 GMT
#61
I made GM today... something is wrong....
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 01 2011 19:55 GMT
#62
Static system where it took sample of 2 weeks to display top 200 for 6 month okay np
1 day sample to display for 3 month THATS AN OUTRAGE

You guys shouldnt be saying oh there is an error in the system NOW.
You should be saying that system is dumbest system i ever saw and THIS just proves it.
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EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
November 01 2011 19:58 GMT
#63
On November 02 2011 04:55 G5 wrote:
I made GM today... something is wrong....

What are you talking about.. You took down boxer in scbw.. that should get you GM status alone!
Ps. Happy Bday Eric
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
November 01 2011 20:03 GMT
#64
On November 02 2011 04:55 Sfydjklm wrote:
Static system where it took sample of 2 weeks to display top 200 for 6 month okay np
1 day sample to display for 3 month THATS AN OUTRAGE

You guys shouldnt be saying oh there is an error in the system NOW.
You should be saying that system is dumbest system i ever saw and THIS just proves it.


Working as intended, I guess.
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
November 01 2011 20:03 GMT
#65
You know its broken when CombatEx isn't #1 on US GM after unlock. >.>
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Boyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States226 Posts
November 01 2011 20:03 GMT
#66
My View: I logged on today and got grandmasters. I was rank 2 in all of masters league for NA last season, and my mmr never said that anyone was favored over me. The fact that nobody was favored over me makes me believe that there is in fact a skill cap, (i played EGIdra and it said even match, i find that hard to believe). Yes I have played a lot of good players, and yea i have an over 50% winrate but the cap would explain why all people who logged on this morning got auto spots, because there was a pool of about 600 players (made up number) that all had "x" amount of mmr, whenever one of those ppl laddered they automatically got in. Sadly, that means that average Joe high masters terran in the eyes of blizzard had exactly the same mmr as EGIdra. This is just my take on what happened and it would def explain why the league filled up so quickly
iLike413
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada100 Posts
November 01 2011 20:10 GMT
#67
So wait, all the GM spots are full? Doesn't it usually take a few weeks for all 200 spots to populate?
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
November 01 2011 20:10 GMT
#68
I'll agree there seems to be something odd about it. I mean... a zerg thats 3-11 and who was a mediocre master level last season is on it? Makes no sense.

But what I dont get is why some people say they are bitter or get butthurt over it..... as long as you are playing people who are giving you a challenge and you are improving... who cares what league the ladder says you are in.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
November 01 2011 20:13 GMT
#69
whoever mentioned the MMR cap thing might be right. I think everyones collective MMR rose higher than it had been in the past and blizzard didn't account for that so any sort of algorithims used to determine GM status were shooting too low. At least that seems like one likely possiblity. Previous season GM's should have reserved slots as well or at least bonuses if they are still active.

I really hope they do something about it because I'm sure I deserve a GM spot on NA (top 70 last season, played 80 games this season so far #1 masters etc) and it looks like GM might be full with very little chance of ever getting in since it's SO hard to drop out of GM once your there. (literally impossible just play a game a day and you will never drop out)
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 01 2011 20:16 GMT
#70
yea i noticed this morning something definitely seems very screwed up with who gets GM. it's nonsensical with who has and hasn't been getting GM
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NrGMalice
Profile Joined February 2010
United States104 Posts
November 01 2011 20:18 GMT
#71
On November 02 2011 05:10 stOpSKY wrote:
I'll agree there seems to be something odd about it. I mean... a zerg thats 3-11 and who was a mediocre master level last season is on it? Makes no sense.

But what I dont get is why some people say they are bitter or get butthurt over it..... as long as you are playing people who are giving you a challenge and you are improving... who cares what league the ladder says you are in.


People like rewards for their efforts. The entire purpose of Blizzard's ladder is to reward players through league promotions. If the promotion to the highest of leagues is faulty, you can't understand why people would be upset?
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-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
November 01 2011 20:19 GMT
#72
On November 02 2011 05:13 LuckyFool wrote:
whoever mentioned the MMR cap thing might be right. I think everyones collective MMR rose higher than it had been in the past and blizzard didn't account for that so any sort of algorithims used to determine GM status were shooting too low. At least that seems like one likely possiblity. Previous season GM's should have reserved slots as well or at least bonuses if they are still active.

I really hope they do something about it because I'm sure I deserve a GM spot on NA (top 70 last season, played 80 games this season so far #1 masters etc) and it looks like GM might be full with very little chance of ever getting in since it's SO hard to drop out of GM once your there. (literally impossible just play a game a day and you will never drop out)


While I agree with you im just curious if you think it matters whether or not you are in GM? What if you are high rank master playing GM players all the time? Like what benefit is there from being GM... not trying to be rude or anything, just asking.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 01 2011 20:20 GMT
#73
On November 02 2011 04:41 coL.drewbie wrote:
wow I should've had a spot reserved in GM, but I didn't play this morning and now I miss out ? lol good work blizzard

yep i thought the same thing =[
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noobasaurus
Profile Joined November 2010
8 Posts
November 01 2011 20:21 GMT
#74
On November 02 2011 05:19 stOpSKY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:13 LuckyFool wrote:
whoever mentioned the MMR cap thing might be right. I think everyones collective MMR rose higher than it had been in the past and blizzard didn't account for that so any sort of algorithims used to determine GM status were shooting too low. At least that seems like one likely possiblity. Previous season GM's should have reserved slots as well or at least bonuses if they are still active.

I really hope they do something about it because I'm sure I deserve a GM spot on NA (top 70 last season, played 80 games this season so far #1 masters etc) and it looks like GM might be full with very little chance of ever getting in since it's SO hard to drop out of GM once your there. (literally impossible just play a game a day and you will never drop out)


While I agree with you im just curious if you think it matters whether or not you are in GM? What if you are high rank master playing GM players all the time? Like what benefit is there from being GM... not trying to be rude or anything, just asking.


The only advantage of being Grandmaster is that it puts you on a very exclusive list that Blizzard keeps. This in itself can give a lot of people a sense of accomplishment.
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
November 01 2011 20:21 GMT
#75
On November 02 2011 05:18 M[a]LiCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:10 stOpSKY wrote:
I'll agree there seems to be something odd about it. I mean... a zerg thats 3-11 and who was a mediocre master level last season is on it? Makes no sense.

But what I dont get is why some people say they are bitter or get butthurt over it..... as long as you are playing people who are giving you a challenge and you are improving... who cares what league the ladder says you are in.


People like rewards for their efforts. The entire purpose of Blizzard's ladder is to reward players through league promotions. If the promotion to the highest of leagues is faulty, you can't understand why people would be upset?


I just dont understand why it matters whether you are a master player playing GMs or a GM playing GMs. Its the same thing and isnt the overall goal just to improve and be a better player and practice? If top GMs were given like auto tourney invites to blizz or something I can better understand though.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
November 01 2011 20:22 GMT
#76
On November 02 2011 05:19 stOpSKY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:13 LuckyFool wrote:
whoever mentioned the MMR cap thing might be right. I think everyones collective MMR rose higher than it had been in the past and blizzard didn't account for that so any sort of algorithims used to determine GM status were shooting too low. At least that seems like one likely possiblity. Previous season GM's should have reserved slots as well or at least bonuses if they are still active.

I really hope they do something about it because I'm sure I deserve a GM spot on NA (top 70 last season, played 80 games this season so far #1 masters etc) and it looks like GM might be full with very little chance of ever getting in since it's SO hard to drop out of GM once your there. (literally impossible just play a game a day and you will never drop out)


While I agree with you im just curious if you think it matters whether or not you are in GM? What if you are high rank master playing GM players all the time? Like what benefit is there from being GM... not trying to be rude or anything, just asking.


I personally don't care, and it would make no difference from my laddering standpoint. but for a semipro player like me without much exposure- just having the credibility to be able to use when you approach a team manager or deal with any business it's easier to say you're top 200 grandmasters than just high masters which isn't as clearly defined.
Ziktomini
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom377 Posts
November 01 2011 20:22 GMT
#77
It's all just about when you play.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
November 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#78
On November 02 2011 05:19 stOpSKY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:13 LuckyFool wrote:
whoever mentioned the MMR cap thing might be right. I think everyones collective MMR rose higher than it had been in the past and blizzard didn't account for that so any sort of algorithims used to determine GM status were shooting too low. At least that seems like one likely possiblity. Previous season GM's should have reserved slots as well or at least bonuses if they are still active.

I really hope they do something about it because I'm sure I deserve a GM spot on NA (top 70 last season, played 80 games this season so far #1 masters etc) and it looks like GM might be full with very little chance of ever getting in since it's SO hard to drop out of GM once your there. (literally impossible just play a game a day and you will never drop out)


While I agree with you im just curious if you think it matters whether or not you are in GM? What if you are high rank master playing GM players all the time? Like what benefit is there from being GM... not trying to be rude or anything, just asking.

People can't add you as friend nor could they chat with you, giving you a strong defense vs bm after game messages.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Smoodish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States95 Posts
November 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#79
hmm yea im pretty disappointed as well. not to say that i definently should've gotten in, but i started to believe when i hit top 200 and kept climbing, and started to play top gm's like DDE , idra, etc.. just yesterday i beat maybe 3-4 gm's outve 10 games, and one of them was ex-rank 4 gm... zzzzzzz. it definently glitched this is retarded.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#80
On November 02 2011 05:21 stOpSKY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:18 M[a]LiCe wrote:
On November 02 2011 05:10 stOpSKY wrote:
I'll agree there seems to be something odd about it. I mean... a zerg thats 3-11 and who was a mediocre master level last season is on it? Makes no sense.

But what I dont get is why some people say they are bitter or get butthurt over it..... as long as you are playing people who are giving you a challenge and you are improving... who cares what league the ladder says you are in.


People like rewards for their efforts. The entire purpose of Blizzard's ladder is to reward players through league promotions. If the promotion to the highest of leagues is faulty, you can't understand why people would be upset?


I just dont understand why it matters whether you are a master player playing GMs or a GM playing GMs. Its the same thing and isnt the overall goal just to improve and be a better player and practice? If top GMs were given like auto tourney invites to blizz or something I can better understand though.


You've posted the same thing 3 times, we get your point.

It matters to some people, if it shouldn't matter then Blizzard should just get rid of GM league, they instituted it in the first place for people to see who the top 200 players are.

Also some things (eg. BlizzCon Qualifiers) seem to be based on ladder performance (see: OstojiY) so it does have some tangible effects as well. And when you're trying to sell yourself to sponsors, it looks a lot better if your players are in GM as opposed to Masters.
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