• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:31
CEST 00:31
KST 07:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202510Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced26BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update Serral wins EWC 2025 Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Afreeca app available on Samsung smart TV Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
How many questions are in the Publix survey?
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 622 users

North America Season 4 GM Ladder Errors - Page 6

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 18 Next All
AGIANTSMURF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1232 Posts
November 01 2011 20:59 GMT
#101
On November 02 2011 05:54 IdrA wrote:
its blizzard who cares


all the people trying to become somewhat known outside of tournaments
Thats "Grand-Master" SMURF to you.....
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
November 01 2011 20:59 GMT
#102
its compeltely normal that the first 200 top 400 MMR players that try to get GM get promoted and others that w8 too long might not.

its like that from the first gm season on, dno why we need that thread every season.
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
November 01 2011 21:00 GMT
#103
On November 02 2011 05:59 ThisGS wrote:
its compeltely normal that the first 200 top 400 MMR players that try to get GM get promoted and others that w8 too long might not.

its like that from the first gm season on, dno why we need that thread every season.


What happened this season isn't close to being normal, last season there were still 100+ spots open by like 3PM EST and it was during the summer. GM usually fills up the following day or a few days after it comes out, not 4 hours after it comes out.
Horuku
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
November 01 2011 21:01 GMT
#104
On November 02 2011 05:59 ThisGS wrote:
its compeltely normal that the first 200 top 400 MMR players that try to get GM get promoted and others that w8 too long might not.

its like that from the first gm season on, dno why we need that thread every season.


Yah, makes sense that people who have jobs/school don't get a chance. They waited too long (8 hours lol) so they are obviously bad players who don't deserve GM.
d<^^>b
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
November 01 2011 21:01 GMT
#105
On November 02 2011 05:56 RastaMonsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:51 T.O.P. wrote:
On November 02 2011 05:44 RastaMonsta wrote:
GM is a joke this season. They should at least open it up in the evening when most of the good players play. Alot of players are busy during the day with school/work. All the scubs who play in the morning for easier wins made it. example- Desrow and Deezer and hackers like JasonX. At least the hacker oGsNada poser and SGTofLuck arent in =]

Who is this JasonX guy? How does he have such a good record?

u can check the replay i posted on TL hacker database recently and judge


Or just scroll down a bit more and see JasonX's reply, making you seem like an idiot
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
November 01 2011 21:02 GMT
#106
On November 02 2011 06:01 Horuku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:59 ThisGS wrote:
its compeltely normal that the first 200 top 400 MMR players that try to get GM get promoted and others that w8 too long might not.

its like that from the first gm season on, dno why we need that thread every season.


Yah, makes sense that people who have jobs/school don't get a chance. They waited too long (8 hours lol) so they are obviously bad players who don't deserve GM.


well, usually it takes more then 8 hours oO
PopcornColonel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
November 01 2011 21:03 GMT
#107
Yeah, I noticed people who are on there with 0 wins and 1 loss... Also, normal people like idra and destiny aren't on there... Something's wrong.
Zerg delenda est.
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
November 01 2011 21:03 GMT
#108
GM is first come first serve basis when it starts.. oh wells ~
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
November 01 2011 21:05 GMT
#109
On November 02 2011 06:03 strength wrote:
GM is first come first serve basis when it starts.. oh wells ~


used to be not that way.
seems like it this season though
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
November 01 2011 21:08 GMT
#110
On November 02 2011 05:55 SyNc` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:54 LuckyFool wrote:
Has the same issue happened on EU or any other server? Or was NA first wave of GM for season 4?


I think EU comes out tomorrow.

Hope they don't make the same mistakes there.... It pretty much invalidates the point of having a GM league which should be the top 200 players in a region not November 1st AM warriors.
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
November 01 2011 21:10 GMT
#111
On November 02 2011 06:08 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:55 SyNc` wrote:
On November 02 2011 05:54 LuckyFool wrote:
Has the same issue happened on EU or any other server? Or was NA first wave of GM for season 4?


I think EU comes out tomorrow.

Hope they don't make the same mistakes there.... It pretty much invalidates the point of having a GM league which should be the top 200 players in a region not November 1st AM warriors.



true, but you still need to be top 500 at least to get in^^
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
November 01 2011 21:12 GMT
#112
To all the people BMing desRow and other people who in your opinion "aren't good enough", think about the hours those people have put into ladder and the work they have done. They worked extremely hard to get something, so I really am going to say tough luck to your favourite people. They will anyway all play each other.

Idra may play lots of customs, and he is well aware that playing customs won't help him get into GM. Not exactly like he should care about GM either, he does well anyways.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
November 01 2011 21:12 GMT
#113
Then just make 500 slots in GM or make it easier to drop out.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
November 01 2011 21:14 GMT
#114
This what I'm most worried about:

Guy plays game
Guy realizes he got into GM
Guy realizes that he's now probably better than 90% of players out there in NA
Guy realizes he can now be cocky as shit and when ppl call him out for it he'll be like "I'm GM bitch, what are you?"
Guy starts giving advice to ppl when he shouldn't
Guy realizes his advice is shit but he doesn't care because ppl take it anyway because "he's GM"
Guy ruins SC2
Guy still remains anonymous
Guy is still GM

sigh.... fuck that guy
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
November 01 2011 21:16 GMT
#115
why do they even have an MMR cap (if they do). Would it be because of those forever bronzes who has negative MMRs? Did they make an MMR floor, so then they had to make an MMR ceiling? If so thats kind of dumb, MMR ceiling makes no sense, and makes ladder even worse of a form of practice. Why would someone like say, Idra, want to ladder on NA when all the people he's facing (who would have the same MMR, the max) wouldn't even be close to his skill level?
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
November 01 2011 21:20 GMT
#116
On November 02 2011 06:16 Chriamon wrote:
why do they even have an MMR cap (if they do). Would it be because of those forever bronzes who has negative MMRs? Did they make an MMR floor, so then they had to make an MMR ceiling? If so thats kind of dumb, MMR ceiling makes no sense, and makes ladder even worse of a form of practice. Why would someone like say, Idra, want to ladder on NA when all the people he's facing (who would have the same MMR, the max) wouldn't even be close to his skill level?


apparently, they made a ceiling because top top players could not find ladder games after long times of queues because their mmr was very high
tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
November 01 2011 21:20 GMT
#117
If you want to see how the GM process should be working (and has worked), take a look at how china is currently:

http://www.battlenet.com.cn/sc2/zh/ladder/grandmaster

All active players. Those with low amounts of games this season, look at their past season, see they were GM last season and extremely active.

Something screwed up on NA.
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
November 01 2011 21:20 GMT
#118
On November 02 2011 06:14 Seeker wrote:
This what I'm most worried about:

Guy plays game
Guy realizes he got into GM
Guy realizes that he's now probably better than 90% of players out there in NA
Guy realizes he can now be cocky as shit and when ppl call him out for it he'll be like "I'm GM bitch, what are you?"
Guy starts giving advice to ppl when he shouldn't
Guy realizes his advice is shit but he doesn't care because ppl take it anyway because "he's GM"
Guy ruins SC2
Guy still remains anonymous
Guy is still GM

sigh.... fuck that guy


Deezer....is exactly that dude. rofl
@ggmonx
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
November 01 2011 21:21 GMT
#119
On November 02 2011 06:14 Seeker wrote:
This what I'm most worried about:

Guy plays game
Guy realizes he got into GM
Guy realizes that he's now probably better than 90% of players out there in NA
Guy realizes he can now be cocky as shit and when ppl call him out for it he'll be like "I'm GM bitch, what are you?"
Guy starts giving advice to ppl when he shouldn't
Guy realizes his advice is shit but he doesn't care because ppl take it anyway because "he's GM"
Guy ruins SC2
Guy still remains anonymous
Guy is still GM

sigh.... fuck that guy

We'll need the following footnote:

"I'm GM*"

*denotes season 4 NA
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#120
People who think it accepts just anyone are sadly wrong.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/446161/1/Sasquatch/ladder/
and
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1330744/1/AGIANTSMURF/ladder/77207#current-rank
didnt get in even tho they played during that half an hour and sasquatch even was GM last season.
So it's more broken then it is easy.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 195
StarCraft: Brood War
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
syndereN723
League of Legends
Grubby5738
Counter-Strike
Fnx 2402
Stewie2K1342
taco 506
Super Smash Bros
PPMD138
Liquid`Ken35
Other Games
summit1g12420
shahzam800
ToD321
C9.Mang0204
Liquid`Hasu108
Maynarde98
Sick57
fpsfer 1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 24 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 304
• davetesta91
• StrangeGG 70
• RyuSc2 38
• musti20045 33
• sitaska25
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 28
• Azhi_Dahaki27
• Eskiya23 17
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22674
League of Legends
• Doublelift7005
• TFBlade1123
Other Games
• imaqtpie1501
• Shiphtur815
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 29m
WardiTV European League
17h 29m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 1h
OSC
1d 13h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 17h
The PondCast
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.