looks great, This format will be quite exciting in my opinion . With players shifting from Code S to Code A quickly we can see many new upcoming talents quicker , I also like the fact that Code A is actually improved overall, since its guaranteed to have quite a number of Code S players fighting for there life's in there too. I like i like.

Chocobo

United States1108 Posts

October 27 2011 13:38 GMT

#82

I don't like the new format at all. It's confusing and overly complex, impossible to see "oh it's the round of 16" and know exactly where in the tournament you are. People constantly bouncing between code A and code S all in the same tournament.

Code A is no longer the minor leagues, and no longer has a final. (The round of 24 is the code A final... seriously.) Before I would watch code A, enjoy seeing who can put on dominant performances vs weaker competition, and maybe make a real impact in code S next month. And even though it's a lesser tournament, the semifinals and finals had extra entertainment value.

Now all of that is gone. I have no interest in watching any code A games ever again (except for Boxer's).

I'm also not a fan of being able to go from code S to code B in a single tournament.

Derity

Germany2952 Posts

October 27 2011 13:39 GMT

#83

i don't like the concept of the up&down matches with only 1 map played...

justinpal

United States3810 Posts

October 27 2011 13:40 GMT

#84

On October 27 2011 22:27 sitromit wrote:

Show nested quote +

Really?

http://twitter.com/#!/WoWnStarcraft/status/129530477114699776

Guess John was misinformed during the group selections.

Sackings

Canada457 Posts

October 27 2011 13:40 GMT

#85

wait a sec, does this mean that naniwa and sase wont be in the Ro48, but directly placed into the up and down groups? according to the graph the mlg seeds dont start in the Ro48

edit: hmm, that would mean that they are automatically in code A next season even if they lose. that doesnt seem to make much sense to me o.o. unless they really want to make sure there is foreigner representation in every GSL

TheUltimate

82 Posts

October 27 2011 13:45 GMT

#86

While I didn't like how easy it was to stay in Code S before, and that new faces should be seen more often, I think this new system swings too far the other way. It shouldn't be possible for a good Code S player to have a few bad matches in a row and be demoted entirely out of the GSL. 24 players will have to requalify after being pushed out in the Ro48 - many of them could be amazing players, but have an unlucky single matchup, and have to go through the grueling qualifications again. Alternatively, a player could finally, after months, push his way into the GSL, and then instantly drop out again after 2 bad games due to nerves in his first GSL series.

Think about it - everyone has bad days, and even bad weeks. The volatility of this system means that known players will drop out of the GSL much more readily. It's fun to watch unknowns rise up and dominate, of course, but if the player roster changes too quickly, only the very top-tier players will have a consistent presence, and I believe games between relative unknowns will generally have far fewer spectators.

To avoid this volatility, I'd much prefer to see a system where far more games are played at the Ro32 (perhaps using a swiss tournament, or round robin system with large groups) but only the more interesting matchups are broadcast - unexpectedly good games could also be recast. The top 16 from this would be put through to a single elimination Ro16, while the bottom 16 would be demoted to Code A (with no chance of demotion to Code B until the next season), where they could fight to reach Code S again.

In Code A, a similar system could be used for the Ro48, where only a few games are broadcast, but far more games are played. It could still be possible to eliminate the bottom 24 players and have them requalify, but with more games played, the best and most consistent players would be more certain of advancing.

dolphen

63 Posts

October 27 2011 13:47 GMT

#87

+1 from me - i like it very much, since the group S/A is less locked than before

nanoscorp

United States1237 Posts

October 27 2011 13:51 GMT

#88

Overall I think the format is great. I like the extra group stage in Code S. Only slightly sad about the lack of a Code A final since some finals in previous seasons have been epic. It'll be interesting to see if the Code S players who get knocked down can claw their way back to Code S in a single season.

3772

Czech Republic434 Posts

October 27 2011 13:51 GMT

#89

Looks pretty good.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

October 27 2011 13:53 GMT

#90

this is super dynamic and will definatly filter out the levels of players

Elean

689 Posts

October 27 2011 13:53 GMT

#91

Well, this was needed to get rid of all those terrans :D

But the information really missing is where are the bo3, the bo5, bo7 or even bo1 ??

Newbistic

China2912 Posts

October 27 2011 13:56 GMT

#92

Sorry but the diagram was way clearer than the explanation D:

Jesus christ did they HAVE to make it so complicated? Why even have Code A and Code S, just have qualifiers and a 64 man tournament.

Aeyon

Austria5 Posts

October 27 2011 13:57 GMT

#93

if i want to watch gomtv i have to register - do i have to pay watching?

Rannasha

Netherlands2398 Posts

October 27 2011 13:58 GMT

#94

On October 27 2011 22:56 Newbistic wrote:
Sorry but the diagram was way clearer than the explanation D:

I agree (as a mathematician: symbols, arrows and numbers beat words any day of the week), but from earlier threads about various tournament formats it has become obvious that this isn't the case for everyone

@Aeyon: The low-quality stream is free, as is the VoD of the first game of each match (either BoX series or group-play). For high-quality live-stream and VoDs you'll have to pay.

Draconicfire

Canada2562 Posts

October 27 2011 13:59 GMT

#95

I like how the format is changing so that Code S gets less stagnant. Like it so far, but have to see how it plays out before I decide.

Wonder how the money distribution is going to change.

Achilles306

Canada84 Posts

October 27 2011 14:02 GMT

#96

Looks great to me. Can see some people going from code S to out of the tournament after the next season, which would have taken about 6 months in the old system. Will probably cause a lot more volatility for players, which might be a bad thing. As a fan, I think the games will become a lot better as there is always promotion/demotion on the line.

OP: great tree diagram! Very easy to understand.

Zimt

Germany6 Posts

October 27 2011 14:02 GMT

#97

Meanwhile, in Code S, the Ro8 and onwards are played with no changes to the setup, all players in the Ro8 stay in Code S.

Much larger potential turnover in Code S: Only the top 8 are garantueed to stay.

i could be wrong, but doesn´t Ro8 means 16 player?