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enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 07:21:24
October 23 2011 07:20 GMT
#41
The low quality of the models aside, I love the old style of the Terran buildings. It looks so much more like BW. Instead they changed it to the same style they have in WoW and WC3, which is much more comic-ish. I never understood Blizzard's obsession with making everything look like "cool" toys, at the cost of completely abandoning the original atmosphere, look and feel of their games. So sad.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
Cuiu
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany410 Posts
October 23 2011 07:27 GMT
#42
On October 23 2011 16:20 enzym wrote:
The low quality of the models aside, I love the old style of the Terran buildings. It looks so much more like BW. Instead they changed it to the same style they have in WoW and WC3, which is much more comic-ish. I never understood Blizzard's obsession with making everything look like "cool" toys, at the cost of completely abandoning the original atmosphere, look and feel of their games. So sad.


i dont agreee with that.

BW"or the first build of sc2" looks so bulky and the proportion are weird
i like the sc2 style more

To the video its awesome to get such inside in to the development stages.
20k builds?wtf ^^
the Creep one is my favorite part
"thats what happens when you put a bunch of programmers in a room without an artist" :D
taintmachine
Profile Joined May 2010
United States431 Posts
October 23 2011 07:28 GMT
#43
zealots looked better w/ brighter arm blades or whatever
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 07:28:29
October 23 2011 07:28 GMT
#44
On October 23 2011 16:27 Cuiu wrote:
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On October 23 2011 16:20 enzym wrote:
The low quality of the models aside, I love the old style of the Terran buildings. It looks so much more like BW. Instead they changed it to the same style they have in WoW and WC3, which is much more comic-ish. I never understood Blizzard's obsession with making everything look like "cool" toys, at the cost of completely abandoning the original atmosphere, look and feel of their games. So sad.


"thats what happens when you put a bunch of programmers in a room without an artist" :D

You get purple spraypaint. :p

On October 23 2011 16:28 taintmachine wrote:
zealots looked better w/ brighter arm blades or whatever

Psi blades.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
dLKnighT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada735 Posts
October 23 2011 07:28 GMT
#45
That was pretty sick to watch thanks!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 23 2011 07:32 GMT
#46
I find it especially interesting that in the first build of SC2 that they showed, the air units stacked up on top of each other in a BW-esque manner, as though they were 2D models (though it's hard to tell if that build was in full 3D or in a mix of pseudo-3D and 2D).

In retail SC2, air units clip into each other rather than stacking, so the first build was rather fascinating to look at.
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enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
October 23 2011 07:36 GMT
#47
On October 23 2011 16:27 Cuiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 16:20 enzym wrote:
The low quality of the models aside, I love the old style of the Terran buildings. It looks so much more like BW. Instead they changed it to the same style they have in WoW and WC3, which is much more comic-ish. I never understood Blizzard's obsession with making everything look like "cool" toys, at the cost of completely abandoning the original atmosphere, look and feel of their games. So sad.


i dont agreee with that.

BW"or the first build of sc2" looks so bulky and the proportion are weird
i like the sc2 style more

The low quality of the models aside

That's why explicitly stated the above, to make sure that people won't fail to differentiate the two.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
October 23 2011 07:38 GMT
#48
do they seriously want me to pay 40$ to watch the whole vods, thats ridiculous, id love to watch the panels as a whole, but i mean, thats just crazy, or am i just crazy?
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
October 23 2011 07:44 GMT
#49
This is extremely awesome haha.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 23 2011 07:45 GMT
#50
On October 23 2011 16:38 rebuffering wrote:
do they seriously want me to pay 40$ to watch the whole vods, thats ridiculous, id love to watch the panels as a whole, but i mean, thats just crazy, or am i just crazy?

I think there are already vods on Youtube for parts of the panels. The multiplayer panel definitely has whole vods floating around.

As for the mapmaking/DotA panel, you can watch the entire presentation on Youtube:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCi8O3nMU6w





The art and technology panel has yet to be uploaded in its entirety, though you can piece it together from the videos in this article:
http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/blizz-con-2011/
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 23 2011 07:51 GMT
#51
That was really cool! I like 2007 roach better than today roach ^^
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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 08:29:00
October 23 2011 08:28 GMT
#52
On October 23 2011 15:58 Daralii wrote:
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On October 23 2011 15:54 Moshikaro wrote:
Those physics looked sick, damn.

Those rumors about the HD BW remake. The video on how SC2 used to look. They could use that for the HD BW remake, right? It actually looks pretty decent.

What do you mean by "rumored?" There's a third-party BW remake, but I doubt Blizz will ever make one.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316


I think he's making reference to this

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InPlainSight
Profile Joined January 2009
New Zealand40 Posts
October 23 2011 11:28 GMT
#53
20k builds?wtf ^^

That essentially means there have been 20k code submissions to their repository. When you consider that this is over the course of 4 years it's not that ridiculous.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 23 2011 11:38 GMT
#54
Awesome. Those first few builds really made me feel like it must have been so much fun making this game.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
October 23 2011 18:57 GMT
#55
On October 23 2011 16:00 l3lackjax wrote:
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On October 23 2011 15:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:
On October 23 2011 15:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
awesome!

His voice sounds shaky

I'm guessing he felt it was a real honor and all to present this (hint from how he said that moment in korea was the best in his life)


On October 23 2011 15:26 l3lackjax wrote:
On October 23 2011 15:23 quantumslip wrote:
if you look in the earlier builds you would spy a multiplayer (aka lan) in the menus...
So LAN does exist for SC2, they're just being lame about releasing it cause their greedy.


So you're saying it's fine to pirate games?


Not everyone who uses LAN is a pirate. Some legitimately use it. If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. Battle.net 2.0 is like StarCraft II's room, and Blizzard is the parent. They tell SC2 to get to their room and stay there, and it does.

In short B.net 2.0 is literally there to control it's playerbase, otherwise they had no real reason to remake the original.


Yes but what about the piraters. The point is this. You and he are saying Blizzard is being greedy for wanting money they deserve. If they are greedy, then they do not deserve their sales. One and only one of these can be true, you cannot have both or else you basically support pirating. Battle.net 2.0 is not going to stop any pirating if there's LAN, i don't see why you mentioned it.


SC2 as itself is fine, that's in no way being 'greedy'. It's the fact that they're scared to support their game, tournaments, and generally just normal players because of pirates. Most developers nowadays know their game, if it is on the PC, will be pirated. They don't necessarily exclude such a big feature as LAN because of it. Blizzard already gets enough money as it is anyways, even if their sales did drop, they could recover. The reason why I mentioned B.net 2.0 is because it's so closed off. You play by Blizzard's rules, even if they aren't accommodating in say, a tournament setting.


Once again you do not address my argument... once again you are saying they do not deserve their sales. This means that you support pirating.

Bnet 2.0 still doesn't have anything to do with this... if there is LAN, it means they do not have to use Bnet 2.0, which is what you want. And then there will be piraters. It doesn't justify breaking the law just because you're unhappy with the product.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 23 2011 20:14 GMT
#56
I feel like I finally understand why the Hydralisk is so bad. For the entirety during the making of SC2, all they did was make Hydras shit on other units. End result = Nerf hydras to oblivion for release.
secret - never again
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
October 23 2011 22:06 GMT
#57
Awesome vid. Took them quite a few iterations until it looked nice for sure.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
October 23 2011 22:17 GMT
#58
Very cool, thanks for this! Looks like the hydra lost its way somewhere around 2007.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
October 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#59
Thanks for posting this. I actually kind of liked the graphics in the first part of the video, it had a BW feel to it.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
EnclaveUSA
Profile Joined August 2011
United States18 Posts
October 23 2011 22:24 GMT
#60
Creep now is a bit darker.
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