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On October 23 2011 15:19 TheAmazombie wrote:
Those are some awesome vids. I love the physics engine changes throughout.
Yes, but can the physics engine actually do moving shot? We need fantasy vultures and air unit micro for this game to be completely perfect.
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On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 15:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:awesome! His voice sounds shaky I'm guessing he felt it was a real honor and all to present this (hint from how he said that moment in korea was the best in his life) On October 23 2011 15:26 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:23 quantumslip wrote:
if you look in the earlier builds you would spy a multiplayer (aka lan) in the menus... So LAN does exist for SC2, they're just being lame about releasing it cause their greedy. So you're saying it's fine to pirate games? Not everyone who uses LAN is a pirate. Some legitimately use it. If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. Battle.net 2.0 is like StarCraft II's room, and Blizzard is the parent. They tell SC2 to get to their room and stay there, and it does. In short B.net 2.0 is literally there to control it's playerbase, otherwise they had no real reason to remake the original.
Yes but what about the piraters. The point is this. You and he are saying Blizzard is being greedy for wanting money they deserve. If they are greedy, then they do not deserve their sales. One and only one of these can be true, you cannot have both or else you basically support pirating. Battle.net 2.0 is not going to stop any pirating if there's LAN, i don't see why you mentioned it.
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12,000 builds and 5 years... makes you appreciate all the work they've put in, honestly.
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On October 23 2011 15:37 0neder wrote:
Who the hell cares about physics effects when you can't not have phoenixes shoot and fantasy vulture micro is impossible?
Maybe the people working on the physics and graphics engines aren't the same ones responsible for changing gameplay?
I'm sure if the gameplay designers wanted to tweak Phoenixes and Vulture-esque micro, the engineers would be more than capable of accommodating. The video was from the arts and technology presentation, so they're not the right people to complain about concerning gameplay.
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On October 23 2011 15:46 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:
If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. You foolish little commie, a company exists to support employees and their families. Being scared people will steal something and taking steps to prevent that is greedy? Clearly you have no sense of morals. =)
Cause you know, they don't already make enough money from any of their other games. Not enough to actually pay their employees, apparently.
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I <3 HotS
It looks simply sick!!!
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Those physics looked sick, damn.
Those rumors about the HD BW remake. The video on how SC2 used to look. They could use that for the HD BW remake, right? It actually looks pretty decent.
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On October 23 2011 15:51 l3lackjax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 15:46 0neder wrote:On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:
If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. You foolish little commie, a company exists to support employees and their families. Being scared people will steal something and taking steps to prevent that is greedy? Clearly you have no sense of morals. =) Cause you know, they don't already make enough money from any of their other games. Not enough to actually pay their employees, apparently.
It's not up to you to decide when they have earned enough money. Commies will be commies.
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Lol, I dont want to rehash this point for the 100th time, but damn, those old BW sounds were so great. Sweet videos nonetheless, really shows you the progress made. Something about those early builds, had a odd charming look to them.
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On October 23 2011 15:54 Moshikaro wrote:
Those physics looked sick, damn.
Those rumors about the HD BW remake. The video on how SC2 used to look. They could use that for the HD BW remake, right? It actually looks pretty decent.
What do you mean by "rumored?" There's a third-party BW remake, but I doubt Blizz will ever make one.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
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On October 23 2011 15:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:awesome! His voice sounds shaky I'm guessing he felt it was a real honor and all to present this (hint from how he said that moment in korea was the best in his life) On October 23 2011 15:26 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:23 quantumslip wrote:
if you look in the earlier builds you would spy a multiplayer (aka lan) in the menus... So LAN does exist for SC2, they're just being lame about releasing it cause their greedy. So you're saying it's fine to pirate games? Not everyone who uses LAN is a pirate. Some legitimately use it. If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. Battle.net 2.0 is like StarCraft II's room, and Blizzard is the parent. They tell SC2 to get to their room and stay there, and it does. In short B.net 2.0 is literally there to control it's playerbase, otherwise they had no real reason to remake the original. Yes but what about the piraters. The point is this. You and he are saying Blizzard is being greedy for wanting money they deserve. If they are greedy, then they do not deserve their sales. One and only one of these can be true, you cannot have both or else you basically support pirating. Battle.net 2.0 is not going to stop any pirating if there's LAN, i don't see why you mentioned it.
SC2 as itself is fine, that's in no way being 'greedy'. It's the fact that they're scared to support their game, tournaments, and generally just normal players because of pirates. Most developers nowadays know their game, if it is on the PC, will be pirated. They don't necessarily exclude such a big feature as LAN because of it. Blizzard already gets enough money as it is anyways, even if their sales did drop, they could recover. The reason why I mentioned B.net 2.0 is because it's so closed off. You play by Blizzard's rules, even if they aren't accommodating in say, a tournament setting.
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On October 23 2011 15:58 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 15:54 Moshikaro wrote:
Those physics looked sick, damn.
Those rumors about the HD BW remake. The video on how SC2 used to look. They could use that for the HD BW remake, right? It actually looks pretty decent. What do you mean by "rumored?" There's a third-party BW remake, but I doubt Blizz will ever make one. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
I guess a few rumors about BW HD were spawned when the 4 BW pros were invited to Blizzcon, but I guess those rumors never solidified into anything substantial.
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On October 23 2011 16:00 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 15:58 Daralii wrote:On October 23 2011 15:54 Moshikaro wrote:
Those physics looked sick, damn.
Those rumors about the HD BW remake. The video on how SC2 used to look. They could use that for the HD BW remake, right? It actually looks pretty decent. What do you mean by "rumored?" There's a third-party BW remake, but I doubt Blizz will ever make one. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316 I guess a few rumors about BW HD were spawned when the 4 BW pros were invited to Blizzcon, but I guess those rumors never solidified into anything substantial.
I just assumed they were invited for them to advertise.
Jaedong said back when SC2 was in beta that he'd consider switching when his contract was up, so I wouldn't be surprised if Blizz wants to try really hard to win over some of the BW gods.
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On October 23 2011 16:00 l3lackjax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 15:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:awesome! His voice sounds shaky I'm guessing he felt it was a real honor and all to present this (hint from how he said that moment in korea was the best in his life) On October 23 2011 15:26 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:23 quantumslip wrote:
if you look in the earlier builds you would spy a multiplayer (aka lan) in the menus... So LAN does exist for SC2, they're just being lame about releasing it cause their greedy. So you're saying it's fine to pirate games? Not everyone who uses LAN is a pirate. Some legitimately use it. If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. Battle.net 2.0 is like StarCraft II's room, and Blizzard is the parent. They tell SC2 to get to their room and stay there, and it does. In short B.net 2.0 is literally there to control it's playerbase, otherwise they had no real reason to remake the original. Yes but what about the piraters. The point is this. You and he are saying Blizzard is being greedy for wanting money they deserve. If they are greedy, then they do not deserve their sales. One and only one of these can be true, you cannot have both or else you basically support pirating. Battle.net 2.0 is not going to stop any pirating if there's LAN, i don't see why you mentioned it. SC2 as itself is fine, that's in no way being 'greedy'. It's the fact that they're scared to support their game, tournaments, and generally just normal players because of pirates. Most developers nowadays know their game, if it is on the PC, will be pirated. They don't necessarily exclude such a big feature as LAN because of it. Blizzard already gets enough money as it is anyways, even if their sales did drop, they could recover. The reason why I mentioned B.net 2.0 is because it so closed off. You play by Blizzard's rules, even if they aren't accommodating in say, a tournament setting.
Eh, dunno why people are arguing about LAN in this thread considering the content has almost nothing to do with LAN other than the existence of LAN during the Alphas. Of course the Alphas would have LAN, as they don't use B.net. IMO, the discussion of Blizzard's removal of it should be in other threads.
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On October 23 2011 16:02 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 16:00 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:awesome! His voice sounds shaky I'm guessing he felt it was a real honor and all to present this (hint from how he said that moment in korea was the best in his life) On October 23 2011 15:26 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:23 quantumslip wrote:
if you look in the earlier builds you would spy a multiplayer (aka lan) in the menus... So LAN does exist for SC2, they're just being lame about releasing it cause their greedy. So you're saying it's fine to pirate games? Not everyone who uses LAN is a pirate. Some legitimately use it. If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. Battle.net 2.0 is like StarCraft II's room, and Blizzard is the parent. They tell SC2 to get to their room and stay there, and it does. In short B.net 2.0 is literally there to control it's playerbase, otherwise they had no real reason to remake the original. Yes but what about the piraters. The point is this. You and he are saying Blizzard is being greedy for wanting money they deserve. If they are greedy, then they do not deserve their sales. One and only one of these can be true, you cannot have both or else you basically support pirating. Battle.net 2.0 is not going to stop any pirating if there's LAN, i don't see why you mentioned it. SC2 as itself is fine, that's in no way being 'greedy'. It's the fact that they're scared to support their game, tournaments, and generally just normal players because of pirates. Most developers nowadays know their game, if it is on the PC, will be pirated. They don't necessarily exclude such a big feature as LAN because of it. Blizzard already gets enough money as it is anyways, even if their sales did drop, they could recover. The reason why I mentioned B.net 2.0 is because it so closed off. You play by Blizzard's rules, even if they aren't accommodating in say, a tournament setting. Eh, dunno why people are arguing about LAN in this thread considering the content has almost nothing to do with LAN other than the existence of LAN during the Alphas. Of course the Alphas would have LAN, as they don't use B.net. IMO, the discussion of Blizzard's removal of it should be in other threads.
People love using any opportunity possible to bitch about Blizz. You get used to it reading any forum related to WoW.
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On October 23 2011 16:03 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 16:02 eviltomahawk wrote:On October 23 2011 16:00 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:awesome! His voice sounds shaky I'm guessing he felt it was a real honor and all to present this (hint from how he said that moment in korea was the best in his life) On October 23 2011 15:26 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:23 quantumslip wrote:
if you look in the earlier builds you would spy a multiplayer (aka lan) in the menus... So LAN does exist for SC2, they're just being lame about releasing it cause their greedy. So you're saying it's fine to pirate games? Not everyone who uses LAN is a pirate. Some legitimately use it. If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. Battle.net 2.0 is like StarCraft II's room, and Blizzard is the parent. They tell SC2 to get to their room and stay there, and it does. In short B.net 2.0 is literally there to control it's playerbase, otherwise they had no real reason to remake the original. Yes but what about the piraters. The point is this. You and he are saying Blizzard is being greedy for wanting money they deserve. If they are greedy, then they do not deserve their sales. One and only one of these can be true, you cannot have both or else you basically support pirating. Battle.net 2.0 is not going to stop any pirating if there's LAN, i don't see why you mentioned it. SC2 as itself is fine, that's in no way being 'greedy'. It's the fact that they're scared to support their game, tournaments, and generally just normal players because of pirates. Most developers nowadays know their game, if it is on the PC, will be pirated. They don't necessarily exclude such a big feature as LAN because of it. Blizzard already gets enough money as it is anyways, even if their sales did drop, they could recover. The reason why I mentioned B.net 2.0 is because it so closed off. You play by Blizzard's rules, even if they aren't accommodating in say, a tournament setting. Eh, dunno why people are arguing about LAN in this thread considering the content has almost nothing to do with LAN other than the existence of LAN during the Alphas. Of course the Alphas would have LAN, as they don't use B.net. IMO, the discussion of Blizzard's removal of it should be in other threads. People love using any opportunity possible to bitch about Blizz. You get used to it reading any forum related to WoW.
Yeah. I can't expect too much off of the internet, it seems.
Kinda irritating how in a thread looking at the interesting evolution of SC2's graphics and art direction, it's still so easy to derail into the standard complaints about completely unrelated problems.
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On October 23 2011 16:03 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 16:02 eviltomahawk wrote:On October 23 2011 16:00 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:awesome! His voice sounds shaky I'm guessing he felt it was a real honor and all to present this (hint from how he said that moment in korea was the best in his life) On October 23 2011 15:26 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:23 quantumslip wrote:
if you look in the earlier builds you would spy a multiplayer (aka lan) in the menus... So LAN does exist for SC2, they're just being lame about releasing it cause their greedy. So you're saying it's fine to pirate games? Not everyone who uses LAN is a pirate. Some legitimately use it. If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. Battle.net 2.0 is like StarCraft II's room, and Blizzard is the parent. They tell SC2 to get to their room and stay there, and it does. In short B.net 2.0 is literally there to control it's playerbase, otherwise they had no real reason to remake the original. Yes but what about the piraters. The point is this. You and he are saying Blizzard is being greedy for wanting money they deserve. If they are greedy, then they do not deserve their sales. One and only one of these can be true, you cannot have both or else you basically support pirating. Battle.net 2.0 is not going to stop any pirating if there's LAN, i don't see why you mentioned it. SC2 as itself is fine, that's in no way being 'greedy'. It's the fact that they're scared to support their game, tournaments, and generally just normal players because of pirates. Most developers nowadays know their game, if it is on the PC, will be pirated. They don't necessarily exclude such a big feature as LAN because of it. Blizzard already gets enough money as it is anyways, even if their sales did drop, they could recover. The reason why I mentioned B.net 2.0 is because it so closed off. You play by Blizzard's rules, even if they aren't accommodating in say, a tournament setting. Eh, dunno why people are arguing about LAN in this thread considering the content has almost nothing to do with LAN other than the existence of LAN during the Alphas. Of course the Alphas would have LAN, as they don't use B.net. IMO, the discussion of Blizzard's removal of it should be in other threads. People love using any opportunity possible to bitch about Blizz. You get used to it reading any forum related to WoW. Reason why I brought it up was cause now it's pretty much been proved that LAN is entirely possible for SC2, they just wont implement it.
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On October 23 2011 16:06 l3lackjax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 16:03 Daralii wrote:On October 23 2011 16:02 eviltomahawk wrote:On October 23 2011 16:00 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On October 23 2011 15:41 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:awesome! His voice sounds shaky I'm guessing he felt it was a real honor and all to present this (hint from how he said that moment in korea was the best in his life) On October 23 2011 15:26 l3lackjax wrote:On October 23 2011 15:23 quantumslip wrote:
if you look in the earlier builds you would spy a multiplayer (aka lan) in the menus... So LAN does exist for SC2, they're just being lame about releasing it cause their greedy. So you're saying it's fine to pirate games? Not everyone who uses LAN is a pirate. Some legitimately use it. If Blizzard is so scared their sales will plummet if they release LAN for SC2, then they are just being a greedy corporation. Battle.net 2.0 is like StarCraft II's room, and Blizzard is the parent. They tell SC2 to get to their room and stay there, and it does. In short B.net 2.0 is literally there to control it's playerbase, otherwise they had no real reason to remake the original. Yes but what about the piraters. The point is this. You and he are saying Blizzard is being greedy for wanting money they deserve. If they are greedy, then they do not deserve their sales. One and only one of these can be true, you cannot have both or else you basically support pirating. Battle.net 2.0 is not going to stop any pirating if there's LAN, i don't see why you mentioned it. SC2 as itself is fine, that's in no way being 'greedy'. It's the fact that they're scared to support their game, tournaments, and generally just normal players because of pirates. Most developers nowadays know their game, if it is on the PC, will be pirated. They don't necessarily exclude such a big feature as LAN because of it. Blizzard already gets enough money as it is anyways, even if their sales did drop, they could recover. The reason why I mentioned B.net 2.0 is because it so closed off. You play by Blizzard's rules, even if they aren't accommodating in say, a tournament setting. Eh, dunno why people are arguing about LAN in this thread considering the content has almost nothing to do with LAN other than the existence of LAN during the Alphas. Of course the Alphas would have LAN, as they don't use B.net. IMO, the discussion of Blizzard's removal of it should be in other threads. People love using any opportunity possible to bitch about Blizz. You get used to it reading any forum related to WoW. Reason why I brought it up was cause now it's pretty much been proved that LAN is entirely possible for SC2, they just wont implement it.
Which seems incredibly obvious, since Bnet 2.0 wasn't at all in a working state until at least 2008 or 2009.
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hots plz! lol this is awesome
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On October 23 2011 15:26 l3lackjax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 15:23 quantumslip wrote:
if you look in the earlier builds you would spy a multiplayer (aka lan) in the menus... So LAN does exist for SC2, they're just being lame about releasing it cause their greedy.
Yeah absolutely, it's not like it's an upcoming feature, it wouldn't take much to implement, they just don't want to do it.
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