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On October 22 2011 09:36 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:23 Shikyo wrote:On October 22 2011 09:22 preon wrote:
I can't believe everyone is whining so much.. ecpecially the guys saying that they should remove all units that werent in brood war and bring back the ones that were.. Go play brood war if you miss it so much, I don't want a f-ing lurker, I don't want the stupid reaver. I want new cool things to play around with. I'm pumped for HotS :D I dunno, if you don't want a quality game with a focus on gameplay instead of gimmicks why not just play Supreme Commander or something? Supreme Commander and Sup Com FA were great Rts's though... I agree with you on the Overseer thing ; they should definitely Keep the Overseer i don't like the Idea of a Single use Cloak Detect use on a unit that can only be used once and costs 200 gas to get just 1 Mobile Cloak Detector.
No, it costs energy to turn another unit into a detector. I actually like the idea.
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i really dont like te replicant, not because of imbalance or anything, just because it makes protoss not unique in a way, copying others is kinda meh, i mean in a TVP matchup i want to face a protoss, not tanks
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On October 22 2011 08:39 bRiz wrote:
none of the new units have any microability...dissapointed.
ok its fair to bitch on lots of points, but stop being stupid. 90% of the new stuff is about adding micro in the game. (to a point that some units now look like Dota heroes...)
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I feel like all these units are really powerful and make the game unbalanced..
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Burrowed banelings are gonna be interesting
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Bring in the motherfucking space orcs, do eet!
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Replicant sounds really stupid.
It looks like it has to be in melee range to clone a unit. It either must have a LOT of HP or... I can't see how people will use it.
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On October 22 2011 09:40 Ravnemesteren wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:36 XRaDiiX wrote:On October 22 2011 09:23 Shikyo wrote:On October 22 2011 09:22 preon wrote:
I can't believe everyone is whining so much.. ecpecially the guys saying that they should remove all units that werent in brood war and bring back the ones that were.. Go play brood war if you miss it so much, I don't want a f-ing lurker, I don't want the stupid reaver. I want new cool things to play around with. I'm pumped for HotS :D I dunno, if you don't want a quality game with a focus on gameplay instead of gimmicks why not just play Supreme Commander or something? Supreme Commander and Sup Com FA were great Rts's though... I agree with you on the Overseer thing ; they should definitely Keep the Overseer i don't like the Idea of a Single use Cloak Detect use on a unit that can only be used once and costs 200 gas to get just 1 Mobile Cloak Detector. No, it costs energy to turn another unit into a detector. I actually like the idea.
I know that but 1 Viper = 200 Gas
1 Overseer =50/50
Each Viper can only give a unit Cloak Detect once ever
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233 pages of balance complaints. Just as expected, TL.
The new units look pretty cool for the most part.
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Well, the Viper is cool, but it's going to be overpowered and nerfed to shit. Moved burrow banelings will also be pretty overpowered.
The death field thing for terran looks pretty bad. It will be super annoyingly strong versus zerg when you're turtling (essentially kills ling backstabs).
I'm so mad about the protoss changes. I beleive I heard that dustin browder said he thinks the corrupter was messed up, so they give it a weird ability that isn't that great and give the protoss a whole bunch of awesome air units? Also, giving nexus mass recall seems way OP. Protoss shouldn't get a free get out of jail free card, its going to make their timing attacks stupidly strong. Also, the ability to steal any unit (indefinitely) is bad. Protoss will never have a weakness.
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On October 22 2011 09:41 Swimcito wrote:
i really dont like te replicant, not because of imbalance or anything, just because it makes protoss not unique in a way, copying others is kinda meh, i mean in a TVP matchup i want to face a protoss, not tanks
Terran Players :
TvT
TvZ
TvPT
Zerg Players (Dimaga love the new Replicant xD) :
ZvZ
ZvT
ZvPZ
Protoss Players :
PvP
PTvT
PZvZ
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Can the replicant only Clone one unit at the time?
i really dont see how they can be cost effective if thats the case.
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Well it looks like there is no point in making colossus against zerg since they have Vipers  why did they remove the Carrier?!?!?! they should of buffed them.
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On October 22 2011 09:42 John Madden wrote:
Burrowed banelings are gonna be interesting
No, MOVING burrowed baelings are going to be interesting [:
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I feel like Blizzard is trolling Zerg by giving Zerg a Lurker-esque unit but with barely any of the effectiveness of a Lurker...
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On October 22 2011 09:43 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:40 Ravnemesteren wrote:On October 22 2011 09:36 XRaDiiX wrote:On October 22 2011 09:23 Shikyo wrote:On October 22 2011 09:22 preon wrote:
I can't believe everyone is whining so much.. ecpecially the guys saying that they should remove all units that werent in brood war and bring back the ones that were.. Go play brood war if you miss it so much, I don't want a f-ing lurker, I don't want the stupid reaver. I want new cool things to play around with. I'm pumped for HotS :D I dunno, if you don't want a quality game with a focus on gameplay instead of gimmicks why not just play Supreme Commander or something? Supreme Commander and Sup Com FA were great Rts's though... I agree with you on the Overseer thing ; they should definitely Keep the Overseer i don't like the Idea of a Single use Cloak Detect use on a unit that can only be used once and costs 200 gas to get just 1 Mobile Cloak Detector. No, it costs energy to turn another unit into a detector. I actually like the idea. I know that but 1 Viper = 200 Gas 1 Overseer =50/50 Each Viper can only give a unit Cloak Detect once ever
Were did you get that? From what I understood from the panel they use a certain amount of energy to turn another unit into a detector permanently. That means a single Viper can turn several units into detectors over time.
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I really want the replicant to change the appearance of your newly acquired units, they should gain some kind of protoss armor so they look part of the protoss army, this would make a lot more sense then plainly copying another unit.
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i think people are forgetting the positional wars some of the new units will add to the game. this is what day 9 was talking about in a few of his dailies and what many people wanted. now that we get it ppl are saying its OP?
just atleast wait untill the beta before you whine a unit is imba because it might turn out that the unit is completly useless and actually needs buffing because of strats that might counter it.
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On October 22 2011 09:43 Necrophantasia wrote:
Replicant sounds really stupid.
It looks like it has to be in melee range to clone a unit. It either must have a LOT of HP or... I can't see how people will use it.
In the HotS trailer you can see a few actually clone Siege Tanks in siege mode out of range. Therefore, I do not think it is all that bad in range. That being said, the price is pretty high.
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Theorycrafting is fun.
Looks like cool micro opportunities for each race are added. I like it.
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