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Ravnemesteren
Profile Joined May 2011
224 Posts
October 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#4641
On October 22 2011 09:36 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 09:23 Shikyo wrote:
On October 22 2011 09:22 preon wrote:
I can't believe everyone is whining so much.. ecpecially the guys saying that they should remove all units that werent in brood war and bring back the ones that were.. Go play brood war if you miss it so much, I don't want a f-ing lurker, I don't want the stupid reaver. I want new cool things to play around with. I'm pumped for HotS :D

I dunno, if you don't want a quality game with a focus on gameplay instead of gimmicks why not just play Supreme Commander or something?


Supreme Commander and Sup Com FA were great Rts's though...

I agree with you on the Overseer thing ; they should definitely Keep the Overseer i don't like the Idea of a Single use Cloak Detect use on a unit that can only be used once and costs 200 gas to get just 1 Mobile Cloak Detector.


No, it costs energy to turn another unit into a detector. I actually like the idea.
Swimcito
Profile Joined October 2010
Italy52 Posts
October 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#4642
i really dont like te replicant, not because of imbalance or anything, just because it makes protoss not unique in a way, copying others is kinda meh, i mean in a TVP matchup i want to face a protoss, not tanks
For the Dominion !
GreyMasta
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 00:41:47
October 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#4643
On October 22 2011 08:39 bRiz wrote:
none of the new units have any microability...dissapointed.


ok its fair to bitch on lots of points, but stop being stupid. 90% of the new stuff is about adding micro in the game. (to a point that some units now look like Dota heroes...)
OxyFuel
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada195 Posts
October 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#4644
I feel like all these units are really powerful and make the game unbalanced..
Flash | Boxer | qxc | KawaiiRice | LuckyFool | Avilo
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
October 22 2011 00:42 GMT
#4645
Burrowed banelings are gonna be interesting
FOOTBALL
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
October 22 2011 00:43 GMT
#4646
Bring in the motherfucking space orcs, do eet!
FOOTBALL
Necrophantasia
Profile Joined May 2010
Japan299 Posts
October 22 2011 00:43 GMT
#4647
Replicant sounds really stupid.

It looks like it has to be in melee range to clone a unit. It either must have a LOT of HP or... I can't see how people will use it.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 00:43:53
October 22 2011 00:43 GMT
#4648
On October 22 2011 09:40 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 09:36 XRaDiiX wrote:
On October 22 2011 09:23 Shikyo wrote:
On October 22 2011 09:22 preon wrote:
I can't believe everyone is whining so much.. ecpecially the guys saying that they should remove all units that werent in brood war and bring back the ones that were.. Go play brood war if you miss it so much, I don't want a f-ing lurker, I don't want the stupid reaver. I want new cool things to play around with. I'm pumped for HotS :D

I dunno, if you don't want a quality game with a focus on gameplay instead of gimmicks why not just play Supreme Commander or something?


Supreme Commander and Sup Com FA were great Rts's though...

I agree with you on the Overseer thing ; they should definitely Keep the Overseer i don't like the Idea of a Single use Cloak Detect use on a unit that can only be used once and costs 200 gas to get just 1 Mobile Cloak Detector.


No, it costs energy to turn another unit into a detector. I actually like the idea.



I know that but 1 Viper = 200 Gas

1 Overseer =50/50

Each Viper can only give a unit Cloak Detect once ever
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
October 22 2011 00:43 GMT
#4649
233 pages of balance complaints. Just as expected, TL.

The new units look pretty cool for the most part.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
October 22 2011 00:44 GMT
#4650
Well, the Viper is cool, but it's going to be overpowered and nerfed to shit. Moved burrow banelings will also be pretty overpowered.

The death field thing for terran looks pretty bad. It will be super annoyingly strong versus zerg when you're turtling (essentially kills ling backstabs).

I'm so mad about the protoss changes. I beleive I heard that dustin browder said he thinks the corrupter was messed up, so they give it a weird ability that isn't that great and give the protoss a whole bunch of awesome air units? Also, giving nexus mass recall seems way OP. Protoss shouldn't get a free get out of jail free card, its going to make their timing attacks stupidly strong. Also, the ability to steal any unit (indefinitely) is bad. Protoss will never have a weakness.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Eisenheim
Profile Joined May 2011
France229 Posts
October 22 2011 00:44 GMT
#4651
On October 22 2011 09:41 Swimcito wrote:
i really dont like te replicant, not because of imbalance or anything, just because it makes protoss not unique in a way, copying others is kinda meh, i mean in a TVP matchup i want to face a protoss, not tanks


Terran Players :

TvT
TvZ
TvPT

Zerg Players (Dimaga love the new Replicant xD) :

ZvZ
ZvT
ZvPZ

Protoss Players :

PvP
PTvT
PZvZ


ToD, DeMusliM, White-ra, Stephano, MVP !
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
October 22 2011 00:44 GMT
#4652
Can the replicant only Clone one unit at the time?

i really dont see how they can be cost effective if thats the case.
you no take candle
Sparkman
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60 Posts
October 22 2011 00:44 GMT
#4653
Well it looks like there is no point in making colossus against zerg since they have Vipers why did they remove the Carrier?!?!?! they should of buffed them.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 22 2011 00:45 GMT
#4654
On October 22 2011 09:42 John Madden wrote:
Burrowed banelings are gonna be interesting

No, MOVING burrowed baelings are going to be interesting [:
Jaedong.
Affluenza
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom214 Posts
October 22 2011 00:45 GMT
#4655
I feel like Blizzard is trolling Zerg by giving Zerg a Lurker-esque unit but with barely any of the effectiveness of a Lurker...

My children, the hour of our victory is at hand. For upon this world of Aiur shall we incorporate the strongest known species into our fold. Then shall we be the greatest of creation's children. We shall be... Perfect.
Ravnemesteren
Profile Joined May 2011
224 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 00:45:52
October 22 2011 00:45 GMT
#4656
On October 22 2011 09:43 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 09:40 Ravnemesteren wrote:
On October 22 2011 09:36 XRaDiiX wrote:
On October 22 2011 09:23 Shikyo wrote:
On October 22 2011 09:22 preon wrote:
I can't believe everyone is whining so much.. ecpecially the guys saying that they should remove all units that werent in brood war and bring back the ones that were.. Go play brood war if you miss it so much, I don't want a f-ing lurker, I don't want the stupid reaver. I want new cool things to play around with. I'm pumped for HotS :D

I dunno, if you don't want a quality game with a focus on gameplay instead of gimmicks why not just play Supreme Commander or something?


Supreme Commander and Sup Com FA were great Rts's though...

I agree with you on the Overseer thing ; they should definitely Keep the Overseer i don't like the Idea of a Single use Cloak Detect use on a unit that can only be used once and costs 200 gas to get just 1 Mobile Cloak Detector.


No, it costs energy to turn another unit into a detector. I actually like the idea.



I know that but 1 Viper = 200 Gas

1 Overseer =50/50


Each Viper can only give a unit Cloak Detect once ever


Were did you get that? From what I understood from the panel they use a certain amount of energy to turn another unit into a detector permanently. That means a single Viper can turn several units into detectors over time.
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
October 22 2011 00:45 GMT
#4657
I really want the replicant to change the appearance of your newly acquired units, they should gain some kind of protoss armor so they look part of the protoss army, this would make a lot more sense then plainly copying another unit.
Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
October 22 2011 00:45 GMT
#4658
i think people are forgetting the positional wars some of the new units will add to the game. this is what day 9 was talking about in a few of his dailies and what many people wanted. now that we get it ppl are saying its OP?

just atleast wait untill the beta before you whine a unit is imba because it might turn out that the unit is completly useless and actually needs buffing because of strats that might counter it.
Maculo
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
October 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#4659
On October 22 2011 09:43 Necrophantasia wrote:
Replicant sounds really stupid.

It looks like it has to be in melee range to clone a unit. It either must have a LOT of HP or... I can't see how people will use it.

In the HotS trailer you can see a few actually clone Siege Tanks in siege mode out of range. Therefore, I do not think it is all that bad in range. That being said, the price is pretty high.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
October 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#4660
Theorycrafting is fun.

Looks like cool micro opportunities for each race are added. I like it.
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