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On October 22 2011 05:34 Chicken Chaser wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 05:31 Apoo wrote:
The Zerg units are great and a perfect addition to the race.
The Protoss units look weird and got even more weird abilties, not a fan of it.
The Terran units got a nice concept behind themself, but the design is just very bad. The Replicants sound super awesome--it's essentially free Mind Control for any unit you want. Definitely makes Protoss sound more alien-y imo. But I can't help but think SC2 is turning into Transformers (Michael Bay or not)
But how many units are actually worth replicating for a unit that is 200/200 and can't copy massive units?
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On October 22 2011 05:44 DizzyDrone wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 05:41 Ketara wrote:
Oh shit.
Guys.
GUYS
I just realized the most important balance change HotS will have on Starcraft 2
Replicators are going to absolutely ruin team monobattles. I disagree. The biggest thing is the size of the Thor, which returns to it's size during the Alpha / Beta
I wonder when TL users will get a sense of humor. Sigh.
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On October 22 2011 05:41 Ketara wrote:
Oh shit.
Guys.
GUYS
I just realized the most important balance change HotS will have on Starcraft 2
Replicators are going to absolutely ruin team monobattles.
You mean they're going to make them more awesome.
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Cant wait to see which race is going to be horribly broken with the new units. My vote goes to Protoss.
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So banelings can move underground WHY? must be a hive or lair tech ability
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If the replicants are LoS based it would be pretty ridiculous, I feel that will change. Just getting sight of the enemy workers allow you to steal a Zerg or Terran's tech
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On October 22 2011 05:44 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 05:42 Ares[Effort] wrote:On October 22 2011 05:26 XRaDiiX wrote:On October 22 2011 05:25 Ares[Effort] wrote:
The new maps are absolutely retarded I beg to Differ; they look awesome OH YEA? How do you suppose expanding on any of the first two maps as a zerg? Do you see the positional imbalance in the top right vs bottom left position and bottom right vs top right in map #1, do you? Well you should because these maps are all imbalanced. And a trillion other things Which maps are these? Sorry to sound stupid, but I have heard nothing about maps.
check OP under spoilers
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On October 22 2011 05:45 Yamulo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 05:34 Chicken Chaser wrote:On October 22 2011 05:31 Apoo wrote:
The Zerg units are great and a perfect addition to the race.
The Protoss units look weird and got even more weird abilties, not a fan of it.
The Terran units got a nice concept behind themself, but the design is just very bad. The Replicants sound super awesome--it's essentially free Mind Control for any unit you want. Definitely makes Protoss sound more alien-y imo. But I can't help but think SC2 is turning into Transformers (Michael Bay or not) But how many units are actually worth replicating for a unit that is 200/200 and can't copy massive units?
Ghosts so they can emp other ghosts
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On October 22 2011 05:44 theaxis12 wrote:
As a zerg player i really like the new units and abilities, but WTF is with removing the overseer.
Zerg just doesn't get to scout now? Not cool, not strategic.
You can get overlord speed just as quickly as overseer.
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On October 22 2011 05:45 Scila wrote:
Cant wait to see which race is going to be horribly broken with the new units. My vote goes to Protoss.
Or none...
So many retards being negative..
1. It isn't out yet.
2. We have patches if some units WOULD be imbalanced.
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On October 22 2011 05:44 Ksi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 05:40 Whitewing wrote:On October 22 2011 05:39 Treble557 wrote:
Can someone please give us the exact details on the Hydralisk in HoTS? Is it still T2? Is it still Light? Is it the same cost? Does it morph into anything?
All we've heard on it is that it has a speed upgrade so far.
Also, the marine. Any changes to it's hp/range/dmg/cost/etc??? Supposedly everything is the same but it also gets a move speed upgrade so it'll actually be really strong off-creep. It'll still melt in seconds to its counters and be lackluster anti-air. Even with an off-creep speed buff I don't see the point in making hydralisks for anything other than anti-air. It, like the carrier, is just sort of a legacy unit whose role has been rendered obsolete and is too easily countered to be worth its cost. Seeing as the new burrowing unit is made from the infestation pit, the Hydra Den still seems like a very dead-end, niche tech. Honestly I was hoping for a bigger change to the Hydralisk, like changing its damage type, range, or HP values.
If it's fast off creep, you can use it as a high mobility unit and not engage directly, just harass with it. The reason players go mass roach instead of roach hydra vs. protoss is that roaches are way faster and they can run around and reinforce much quicker. With hydras being fast that reinforcement path is much quicker, and you can micro/storm dodge, hit and run tactics, and you can micro vs. air much better. Speed upgrades are HUGE for the power of any unit.
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the beta will probably be really long with so many drastic changes
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On October 22 2011 05:43 awu25 wrote:
Jesus, let's just throw out all the balance we've been working on and make a completely new game. A lot of these changes seem very drastic, but won't know what really happens until release. Dislike the new Thor thing, game might turn into a Hero based game
what other 1-at a time units are there in HOTS?
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On October 22 2011 05:41 awesomoecalypse wrote:
So...appartently in the Browder interview, he gave the range on Replicants.
Its LOS.
Yes, seriously. If you can see it, you can replicate it, provided its not massive.
Now THAT could actually be useful. It still costs 200/200, but for specific cost effective combos, or nabbing units like spellcasters, it could be awesome. Protoss effectively have 200/200 Infestors now.
Get a couple replicants, create tanks and stall a 1-1-1 push until your unit count is high enough to destroy the army? Haha, gogo TvT
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ultralisk takes a hit like a champ. shrugs it off like nothing. god make a sc movie!
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gush those two last maps look very zerg like type of maps...
I as a toss really lik the first one thought.
The second map look very like another map that used to be in second season where it had disructable rock on the natural on the side..
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Is there any news on the cost of the new units?
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This thread is so funny :D
People are complaining about an expansion that might still be into beta but nevertheless gives so much new stuff to us.
I remember how many cried about the removal of KA and the speedupgrade for voidrays because it limits the possibilities and now the same people whine about units or spells being to strong before even know 100% how it works etc..
On topic: I can't really wait for HotS... have to play it now 
Did anybody gave an official release date?
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On October 22 2011 05:40 Candadar wrote:
Was I the only one who saw an Ultralisk burrow, and then charge underground?
No you were not I'm excited
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So many gnarly changessss ~head explodez
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