EPTZOWIE announces DIVINA female sc2 tournament - Page 10
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LittleAtari
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
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Arnfasta
United States183 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:33 LittleAtari wrote: the point of this thread isnt to discuss whether or not there should be female only tournaments. There's a lot of threads on that already. There's a lot more here to discuss, like who's being inviting, on what qualifications, and why wasn't there a qualifier? Well said. I'm curious as well why there wasn't a qualifier. I understand their position on LAN but if you're trying to promote professional competitive female gaming...it seems counter-intuitive to be so exclusive. I'm very excited that there's a female-only tournament with such a large prize pool but with only 6 women competing, it feels more like a series of showmatches than a tournament. Still, a start is a start. | ||
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Shel
United States104 Posts
There's nothing wrong with female only tournaments. They aren't necessary from a fairness point of view, but it's not a bad thing to recognize a minority in any situation. Black history month, for example, is a great idea. But this tournament isn't about promoting women in esports.No qualifier, only 6 participants whose names aren't being revealed, and a ridiculous prize pool. This is a publicity stunt, using the fact that male gamers think female gamers are hot to gain publicity for their company and products. These women are being used, and we're being told it's supposed to pave the road for female sc2 gamers. It's bullshit to rival something Congress would do. | ||
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Thrombozyt
Germany1269 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:15 D_K_night wrote: it's not money that your pocket will ever see - so why the objection? Well.. there are many gamers out there, that never have and never will win any tournament. Many of those gamers would actually like to win something and are improving their play. Those are the gamers in masters or low grandmasters. Along comes a tourney, pretending to be a contest of skill, that hands out major money to starcraft players, that you know you can beat. You have worked harder, are more talented and invested more time into the game. Yet you will never win, while there are other gamers, that you could easily beat, that get money, a title and recognition, because they lack a penis. I think that's what's pissing off so many. You cannot compare it to bronze league only tourneys, that for one have no cash prize and also have no real bragging rights and recognition. Here an organisation pretends to pick out good gamers, fly them out to china, lets them be the center of attention and gives them a cash prize for an sc2 performance that could be beaten by many. Imagine your diamond trainings partner that you help out to develop his skills gets chosen because of a random arbitrary trait that he has. But he is lauded for his SC2 skills. Wouldn't that feel just wrong? I guess you would have less backlash if the tourney staff would have come forward announcing that they use SC2 as a tie breaker in their 10k prize pool wet T-shirt contest. Simply because it would be clear, that the participants get the cash and recognition not for their SC2 skills, but because of other traits. | ||
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Piggiez
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Mob.scene
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:18 D_K_night wrote: and how do YOU know, who should or shouldn't be invited? you're not running this tourney. holy sour grapes batman. just because your clanmates didn't get invited, you're all aggro'ed? So you're effectively saying, no matter which girl wins this tourney, it means nothing? an all-female SC2 tourney and oh look, you're still pissed. Great show son This is so ridicuolous i can tell you names who were approached or have been invited who have been allegedly accused of cheating by numerous people. Plus a girl who never ever played 1v1 in her life.. and she gets inviteD? and master playrs like Flo is a second choice? whos masters and a skilled player. Are you kidding me? this whole tournament is a fraud and its based on random girls they pick based on their popular or not it has NOTHING to do with their skill. We have developed a tournament concept called “ZOWIE DIVINA” where we will gather the best girls we can find from around the world and bring them to a given location to participate and compete against other girls in StarCraft 2. Claiming this and inviting plat or lower girls over masters+ and claiming the best girls.. They even wanted invited bronze girls or wanted to invite another bronzey over a masters player... Joke much? | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On October 26 2011 08:04 VampireLady wrote: This is so ridicuolous i can tell you names who were approached or have been invited who have been allegedly accused of cheating by numerous people. Plus a girl who never ever played 1v1 in her life.. and she gets inviteD? and master playrs like Flo is a second choice? whos masters and a skilled player. Are you kidding me? this whole tournament is a fraud and its based on random girls they pick based on their popular or not it has NOTHING to do with their skill. Claiming this and inviting plat or lower girls over masters+ and claiming the best girls.. They even wanted invited bronze girls or wanted to invite another bronzey over a masters player... Joke much? yeah what about the females that are out actually competing at events and holding their own against players like TT1? like aurora shes been to several events, defeated several top pro males on her stream and been the only female competitor at several major events as well, the most recent being IPL3. | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
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Shel
United States104 Posts
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DaSakura
Canada63 Posts
On October 30 2011 12:22 Shel wrote: Well, I found out that Flo, formerly of PMS, has been invited. She's a regular at MLGs, and is definitely a top female player. So maybe this tourney isn't a publicity stunt after all. They told me that they will reveal the identity of the girls to the community later, to keep the surprise. There's one girl per country. And the US has no one because no one could participate to the tournament... There's one for China, one for Taiwan, one for Korea, I think we'll be two for Canada, and one for Sweden. ^.^ So you'll know the rest the 8th November. | ||
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swordboy
Canada299 Posts
And I think the spot for Taiwan is for luway, the spot for China is Miss and the spot for Korea is MaRie, just my guess. | ||
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Longshank
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ESPRITsc
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EDIT: Omg 1 for Korea and 1 for Taiwan? I hope thats them. | ||
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Pred8oar
Germany281 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
Nice to see, but at the same time, I have to admit that I'm a bit confused to see this happening, considering the state of the female sc2 scene. Well, w/e, it can only be good. | ||
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nathangonmad
United Kingdom317 Posts
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DaSakura
Canada63 Posts
On October 31 2011 00:30 swordboy wrote: “two for Canada”, are you going to participate, DaSakura? And I think the spot for Taiwan is for luway, the spot for China is Miss and the spot for Korea is MaRie, just my guess. Yes I'll participate. | ||
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Evangelist
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