ZOWIE announces DIVINA female sc2 tournament - Page 8

On October 22 2011 21:39 xi Tempest x wrote:
They shouldn't separate guys and girls, everyone should play together... mabye do a few tournaments to get some girls into sc2, but after that... Don't make gender a requirment of playing in a tournament.

On October 22 2011 14:37 Scrimpton wrote:
That's just... not true GertHeart you must know... you must know that just isn't true.

I can throw around random anecdotes that may or may not be fabricated too, but it certainly won't add anything useful to the thread.


A girl does something, she gets praised whether she did a good job or not, cos hey she's hot right?
A guy does something, he's a useless nobody unless he comes first in a very major event.


Must agree with Moskau too, the chance to shine is already there.

Female teams and creating infrastructure is really cool.

"I prefer to learn and train in a predominantly female environment" - Can't complain
"I want to have access to much easier money because i'm not male" - Annoys people

I hope you can see the difference between the two.

On October 22 2011 22:19 graniten wrote:

yes but no tourney would have girls then because they arent as good?

On October 22 2011 22:19 graniten wrote:

yes but no tourney would have girls then because they arent as good?

On October 23 2011 00:08 Thrombozyt wrote:
Hmm.. now that we have a tourney with a big cash prize for girls, can we have such a thing for other minorities, too?

I have to dedicate a lot of my time doing my PhD in biochemistry, so I cannot train the required amount to compete in high level tourneys. It also means that I could REALLY use the extra cash. Please do a post doc tourney, where the cash prize pool is 10k and you have present your PhD certificate before you can play.

Thx in advance!

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On October 22 2011 23:13 Shel wrote:



Especially in eSports. Megumi, a 1600 masters at best, plays all day long with Strifecro, Destiny, Major, Ret, and a number of others. She got work as an interviewer at IPL, getting flown out there and put up in a hotel. She regularly has 300-1000 viewers on her stream, depending on who is on it. She moves pros around like chess pieces, setting up show matches because she feels like watching two pros play each other. Why is she able to do all this? Because she has a webcam on her stream and is good looking.

Anna Prosser, zero gaming pedigree, no passion at all in her interviews, a bronze level understanding of the game, on stage in a tiny ass cocktail dress at IPL asking guys "how do you feel right now?" Why? Because she's good looking.

Seltzer, on stage doing these incredibly awkward interviews, acting in an aggressive manner, and making completely inappropriate comments to the players and casters. Does she lose her job? Nope, she's good looking.

Pretty girls in esports are put on pedestals. They're paraded around in their cocktail dresses at IPL3 or their tiny ass jeans at NASL (lindsey sporrer anyone?). They're used for publicity and to make the crowds tune in. But we're not talking about pretty girls here. We're talking about female gamers. And there should ALWAYS be a difference between the two, even if the gamer is pretty, like a tossgirl. When the sport starts using women who are players the same way they use women who are SC2 celebrities, the sport as a whole has failed it's female gamers. And don't tell me that there is a difference in male to female brains. Of course there is, but that has nothing to do with video game skill. The reason that men are "more successful" then women at video games is because men play these games at a ratio of like 200-1 versus women. And men start playing at a younger age. Exceptions, like my clan mate PMS Flo, who have been playing games competitively for years and years (she was a CS pro before she switched over to SC2) are not only able to keep up with the boys but are able to crush almost all of them. Gender has nothing to do with the potential for skill.

On October 22 2011 23:13 Shel wrote:



Especially in eSports. Megumi, a 1600 masters at best, plays all day long with Strifecro, Destiny, Major, Ret, and a number of others. She got work as an interviewer at IPL, getting flown out there and put up in a hotel. She regularly has 300-1000 viewers on her stream, depending on who is on it. She moves pros around like chess pieces, setting up show matches because she feels like watching two pros play each other. Why is she able to do all this? Because she has a webcam on her stream and is good looking.

Anna Prosser, zero gaming pedigree, no passion at all in her interviews, a bronze level understanding of the game, on stage in a tiny ass cocktail dress at IPL asking guys "how do you feel right now?" Why? Because she's good looking.

Seltzer, on stage doing these incredibly awkward interviews, acting in an aggressive manner, and making completely inappropriate comments to the players and casters. Does she lose her job? Nope, she's good looking.

Pretty girls in esports are put on pedestals. They're paraded around in their cocktail dresses at IPL3 or their tiny ass jeans at NASL (lindsey sporrer anyone?). They're used for publicity and to make the crowds tune in. But we're not talking about pretty girls here. We're talking about female gamers. And there should ALWAYS be a difference between the two, even if the gamer is pretty, like a tossgirl. When the sport starts using women who are players the same way they use women who are SC2 celebrities, the sport as a whole has failed it's female gamers. And don't tell me that there is a difference in male to female brains. Of course there is, but that has nothing to do with video game skill. The reason that men are "more successful" then women at video games is because men play these games at a ratio of like 200-1 versus women. And men start playing at a younger age. Exceptions, like my clan mate PMS Flo, who have been playing games competitively for years and years (she was a CS pro before she switched over to SC2) are not only able to keep up with the boys but are able to crush almost all of them. Gender has nothing to do with the potential for skill.