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HELL YEAH
so awesome ESPORTS <3
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If MLG is going to be streamed on it's website and shown on TV then yes.
if TV only than no.
love the idea of starcraft on TV, but we don't have ESPN in our country 
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On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:13 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:08 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:07 Ome wrote:
I think it's a great idea if they can work around the length of individual games. I don't want to see commercial breaks in the middle of a game because they are preset and have to be at this time. That's actually a really good point. You can't really do live events via TV or it would just ruin it for the hardcore fans. PPV i guess? They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face.
No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action.
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On October 01 2011 11:13 CuSToM wrote:
taken from the Facebook group:
"There is no way that starcraft belongs on the same hallowed channel that brought us log throwing and bass fishing"
Can somebody please explain to me why people want Starcraft on TV so badly? I can understand why organizations like MLG would want it but what does it do for a viewer? Do people really care if Timmy the 15 year old Halo player is flipping through his TV and stops on ESPN2 and starts playing Starcraft because of it? It's not like the scene will die if the game doesn't make it into the mainstream, so why are people so vigilant about this? I guess I never really bought into the whole "growth of e-sports" thing because I am always going to enjoy watching and playing the game whether 1,000 people are watching an event or 100,000. Watching it online through your computer is so much more convenient anyways. If you want to watch Starcraft on your TV, hook up your TV to your computer.
Also, I don't really think the game is ready. I think too much money is going into Starcraft too soon. It's the hot game right now, but we still have two expansion packs and a bunch of patches until the game is finally where it's supposed to be balance wise. Too much can happen from now and when Legacy of the Void comes out. Everytime the meta-game starts to go into one direction, Blizzard comes in and forces a change upon it. I think that could hurt the viewing experience from a casual viewer who does not play the game.
Starcraft is growing just fine and has probably exceeded everyone's expectations, no need to rush into things so fast.
Destiny, a single person, almost gets as many viewers a day as NASL. IPL rarely gets over 3000 viewers. How could you possibly say that the scene is growing when there are simply not enough people to help contribute in justifying the investment in a high budget (or at least somewhat high budget) tourney? There are exceptions, such as live touranments but that is a completely different thing.
I'm sure you 're not going to end up enjoying watching Starcraft 2 when pro gamers eventually find it isn't a sustainable profession.
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On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:13 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:08 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:07 Ome wrote:
I think it's a great idea if they can work around the length of individual games. I don't want to see commercial breaks in the middle of a game because they are preset and have to be at this time. That's actually a really good point. You can't really do live events via TV or it would just ruin it for the hardcore fans. PPV i guess? They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action.
Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha
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During football season hell no and im sure you would see a lot of angry people. Other than that id watch.
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I tweeted Sundance I prefer to watch Star2 only on my PC.
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On October 01 2011 11:34 Dbars wrote:
During football season hell no and im sure you would see a lot of angry people. Other than that id watch.
Unless they were going to show the games on saturday then football season really doesn't have anything to do with it. College football is the only time there's a live football game on ESPN 2.
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On October 01 2011 11:32 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:13 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:08 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:07 Ome wrote:
I think it's a great idea if they can work around the length of individual games. I don't want to see commercial breaks in the middle of a game because they are preset and have to be at this time. That's actually a really good point. You can't really do live events via TV or it would just ruin it for the hardcore fans. PPV i guess? They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action. Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha
They have different ways around it besides just after games. In a 55 minute game there is going to be some down time to macro up, like when tastosis talks about peanut butter and furry creatures, it is easy to get a 30 second commercial in there and have a recap if any tech switches happen, they can also come back from commercial early if some big action happens. Keep in mind this will only need to happen on the rare super long games any game less than 30 minutes long would be fine to wait till after the game.
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On October 01 2011 11:34 Dbars wrote:
During football season hell no and im sure you would see a lot of angry people. Other than that id watch.
Who watches football on ESPN 2? ESPN 2 is the network that shows billiards, tennis, random college sports, a couple of baseball games, etc. ESPN shows football once a week on MNF. I don't see how this would make anyone angry. Football has always been local cable or that directv package.
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Nope, I'll only watch SC2 on TV if it's on ESPN 8, the ocho! :-D
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On October 01 2011 11:37 Yergidy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 11:32 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:13 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:08 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:07 Ome wrote:
I think it's a great idea if they can work around the length of individual games. I don't want to see commercial breaks in the middle of a game because they are preset and have to be at this time. That's actually a really good point. You can't really do live events via TV or it would just ruin it for the hardcore fans. PPV i guess? They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action. Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha They have different ways around it besides just after games. In a 55 minute game there is going to be some down time to macro up, like when tastosis talks about peanut butter and furry creatures, it is easy to get a 30 second commercial in there and have a recap if any tech switches happen, they can also come back from commercial early if some big action happens. Keep in mind this will only need to happen on the rare super long games any game less than 30 minutes long would be fine to wait till after the game.
Yeah but hour long games don't just become hour long games at the end of an hour. They are 15 min games that can end at the 17 min mark if player x does y, 17 min games that can end at the 19 min mark that could end if player z does a etc etc etc. It'd become an art to understand when you could go to commercial xD
as in no player has any timings and even a complete moron would not try to force potentially game-ending taktikz
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On October 01 2011 11:41 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 11:37 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:32 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:13 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:08 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:07 Ome wrote:
I think it's a great idea if they can work around the length of individual games. I don't want to see commercial breaks in the middle of a game because they are preset and have to be at this time. That's actually a really good point. You can't really do live events via TV or it would just ruin it for the hardcore fans. PPV i guess? They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action. Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha They have different ways around it besides just after games. In a 55 minute game there is going to be some down time to macro up, like when tastosis talks about peanut butter and furry creatures, it is easy to get a 30 second commercial in there and have a recap if any tech switches happen, they can also come back from commercial early if some big action happens. Keep in mind this will only need to happen on the rare super long games any game less than 30 minutes long would be fine to wait till after the game. Yeah but hour long games don't just become hour long games at the end of an hour. They are 15 min games that can end at the 17 min mark if player x does y, 17 min games that can end at the 19 min mark that could end if player z does a etc etc etc. It'd become an art to understand when you could go to commercial xD as in no player has any timings and even a complete moron would not try to force potentially game-ending taktikz
Ya I thought of that after posting it -_- lol. I'm still pretty confident they could work it out if enough people watch it.
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I'm sorry, but I'd be really sad if this happened. ESPN is for SPORTS, not E-SPORTS. I really like watching starcraft, but when I watch ESPN, i want to watch real sports, not videogames.
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On October 01 2011 11:47 Yergidy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 11:41 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:37 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:32 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:13 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:08 Alejandrisha wrote:
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That's actually a really good point. You can't really do live events via TV or it would just ruin it for the hardcore fans. PPV i guess? They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action. Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha They have different ways around it besides just after games. In a 55 minute game there is going to be some down time to macro up, like when tastosis talks about peanut butter and furry creatures, it is easy to get a 30 second commercial in there and have a recap if any tech switches happen, they can also come back from commercial early if some big action happens. Keep in mind this will only need to happen on the rare super long games any game less than 30 minutes long would be fine to wait till after the game. Yeah but hour long games don't just become hour long games at the end of an hour. They are 15 min games that can end at the 17 min mark if player x does y, 17 min games that can end at the 19 min mark that could end if player z does a etc etc etc. It'd become an art to understand when you could go to commercial xD as in no player has any timings and even a complete moron would not try to force potentially game-ending taktikz Ya I thought of that after posting it -_- lol. I'm still pretty confident they could work it out if enough people watch it.
those little things become extremely important though. they only make money from the ads and potential future money if people enjoy the production. so what entices a guy to watch a 55 min tvt and (knowing he's going to have to sit thru 15 mins of commercials thereafter) watch through commercials waiting for the next game?
IDK maybe they already know enough about sc2 to figure out when this guy will just randomly run all his shit into a PF or if genius is actually going to be able to end the game with his gw/void ray builds and they're not telling us! xD
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"An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others."
Hmm, looks like Starcraft is a sport. I'm not sure how players injure their hands if physical exertion isn't involved.
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would totally watch if i had the channel
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Mmm... well on the other hand, IdrA can snap his fingers and be like "I want 20k viewers" and magically 20k viewers appear
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On October 01 2011 11:52 NtroP wrote:
"An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others."
Hmm, looks like Starcraft is a sport. I'm not sure how players injure their hands if physical exertion isn't involved.
It isn't involved because of the mediocre mechanics of most foreign players.
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