EPTStarcraft II on ESPN 2? - Page 21
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NekoFlandre
United States497 Posts
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Ome
Canada157 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6566 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:07 Ome wrote: I think it's a great idea if they can work around the length of individual games. I don't want to see commercial breaks in the middle of a game because they are preset and have to be at this time. That's actually a really good point. You can't really do live events via TV or it would just ruin it for the hardcore fans. PPV i guess? | ||
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Epoch
Canada257 Posts
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On October 01 2011 10:23 jonathan1 wrote: people are totally missing the point. Sundance is asking IF starcraft was on TV, WOULD YOU WATCH IT? and the answer for a lot of people is --No. Why would i watch on TV what I can already watch online in a more comfortable setting? Hell Ya!! You know why? It's cooler to watch stuff on TV. Just seeing SC2 on TV would be a dream come true for me and for many other people. I have cable and I would watch the SHIT out of it. | ||
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Retgery
Canada1229 Posts
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CuSToM
United States1478 Posts
"There is no way that starcraft belongs on the same hallowed channel that brought us log throwing and bass fishing" Can somebody please explain to me why people want Starcraft on TV so badly? I can understand why organizations like MLG would want it but what does it do for a viewer? Do people really care if Timmy the 15 year old Halo player is flipping through his TV and stops on ESPN2 and starts playing Starcraft because of it? It's not like the scene will die if the game doesn't make it into the mainstream, so why are people so vigilant about this? I guess I never really bought into the whole "growth of e-sports" thing because I am always going to enjoy watching and playing the game whether 1,000 people are watching an event or 100,000. Watching it online through your computer is so much more convenient anyways. If you want to watch Starcraft on your TV, hook up your TV to your computer. Also, I don't really think the game is ready. I think too much money is going into Starcraft too soon. It's the hot game right now, but we still have two expansion packs and a bunch of patches until the game is finally where it's supposed to be balance wise. Too much can happen from now and when Legacy of the Void comes out. Everytime the meta-game starts to go into one direction, Blizzard comes in and forces a change upon it. I think that could hurt the viewing experience from a casual viewer who does not play the game. Starcraft is growing just fine and has probably exceeded everyone's expectations, no need to rush into things so fast. | ||
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:08 Alejandrisha wrote: That's actually a really good point. You can't really do live events via TV or it would just ruin it for the hardcore fans. PPV i guess? They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6566 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:13 Yergidy wrote: They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:13 Yergidy wrote: They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. Or the beginning of the Game. If there is a cheese they could switch into the game, as well as during the players set-up time (that's the way it is in bw with the set-up time) | ||
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seaofsaturn
United States489 Posts
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Soliduok
Canada222 Posts
Another point raised is the commercials. I don't see how this could ever be aired live. There is no problem with halting the game (well, not the actual game, but the program) and throwing to a commercial in a tense moment prior to an engagement. Television shows use this suspense envoking tactic nearly every time they air a commercial. I can see SC2 on ESPN being viable for these reasons, as long as the community gets together (literally, for viewing parties, otherwise we'll just continue our life of solidarity infront of our computers watching streams) and if there isn't an oversaturation of shows. | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote: Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it Games last about 15 real minutes in most scenarios. One or two commercials between every game with a little intro/outro commentary isn't exactly a stretch. Also they could do commercial bursts. Instead of 2 commercials every 15 minutes they could just run 4/5 commercials every two games. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27303 Posts
I can forsee a slot opening up, people from TL just watching MLG on streams as they normally do, and the 'casual' playerbase that watches it on the TV not being sufficient. Executives would think 'we tried this once, never again' and this potentially lucrative revenue stream for the game would be shut off. Really not sure how I feel about this. | ||
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote: Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:18 Soliduok wrote: I know an arguement one can make would be, why watch it on tv when you can just watch it online. Which is true, I don't really watch tv because I can never find something worth watching that I can't already watch online. But what would make tv an attractive alternative is that if it was a one night a week event that you could invite friends over for, or do the whole "barcraft" thing. If the show is being aired on ESPN won't the bars just have to pay the standard fee for airing ESPN in their bar? Another point raised is the commercials. I don't see how this could ever be aired live. There is no problem with halting the game (well, not the actual game, but the program) and throwing to a commercial in a tense moment prior to an engagement. Television shows use this suspense envoking tactic nearly every time they air a commercial. I can see SC2 on ESPN being viable for these reasons, as long as the community gets together (literally, for viewing parties, otherwise we'll just continue our life of solidarity infront of our computers watching streams) and if there isn't an oversaturation of shows. Wow. I mean I could see how that would aggrivate some people, but honestly, that'd be fine. As long as they're casting with vods, there'd be no issue with just pausing the game at a specified point and just doing a quick recap after the commericals end. | ||
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StreetWise
United States594 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6566 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote: In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote: In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. 20-30 minute? its much shorter than that real time. and I could care less if Esports grows, all it matter for me is that starcraft is growing since I don't watch anything from Esport but starcraft anyway. | ||
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