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Network slogans
The Total Sports Network (1979–1985)
The Number One Sports Network (1985–1991)
All Sports, All the Time (1991–1994)
America's No.1 Sports Network (1994–1998)
The Worldwide Leader in Sports (1998– )
I think they just wanted to go to next level in their slogan
The No. 1 CyberSport Leader in Sports (2012-- )
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I would tune all 3 of my house's TVs to espn2 for starcraft
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This would be a brilliant step forward in the entire eSports scene. I can't think of a (likely) reason that this would end poorly.
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NO. FUCKING.
WAY.
sudance is a goodddddd!!
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I dunno what to think of this thread.
On 1 hand it is good esport is trying to get bigger and even tough we don't even have it here i would find the idea pretty cool.
On the other hand i am honestly disgusted by the "vote yes even if you lie" attitude.
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Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
SC ON ESPN FUCK YES!!!
WE WIN. WE FINALLY WIN!
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On October 01 2011 11:50 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 11:47 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:41 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:37 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:32 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:13 Yergidy wrote:
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They work around commercials for every sport,in baseball they take breaks in between innings no matter how long they are. In Football they just take breaks when they can like timeouts or after a score, after a quarter etc. They can find a way to make it work. Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action. Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha They have different ways around it besides just after games. In a 55 minute game there is going to be some down time to macro up, like when tastosis talks about peanut butter and furry creatures, it is easy to get a 30 second commercial in there and have a recap if any tech switches happen, they can also come back from commercial early if some big action happens. Keep in mind this will only need to happen on the rare super long games any game less than 30 minutes long would be fine to wait till after the game. Yeah but hour long games don't just become hour long games at the end of an hour. They are 15 min games that can end at the 17 min mark if player x does y, 17 min games that can end at the 19 min mark that could end if player z does a etc etc etc. It'd become an art to understand when you could go to commercial xD as in no player has any timings and even a complete moron would not try to force potentially game-ending taktikz Ya I thought of that after posting it -_- lol. I'm still pretty confident they could work it out if enough people watch it. those little things become extremely important though. they only make money from the ads and potential future money if people enjoy the production. so what entices a guy to watch a 55 min tvt and (knowing he's going to have to sit thru 15 mins of commercials thereafter) watch through commercials waiting for the next game? IDK maybe they already know enough about sc2 to figure out when this guy will just randomly run all his shit into a PF or if genius is actually going to be able to end the game with his gw/void ray builds and they're not telling us! xD
Jeez guys. Ever watch REAL sports? You wouldn't need to speculate over this shit. They only break to commercial during dead time and between stuff. They will never break in the middle of shit.
And the reason normal programming have those cliffhangers is because the networks know you will stick around around. It's not a requirement, but it pleases the sponsors so the networks can charge them up the ass for ad space if they can prove people stick around during the whole show.
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On October 01 2011 12:17 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 11:50 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:47 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:41 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:37 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:32 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:16 Alejandrisha wrote:
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Yeah but SC2 doesn't have a time where the zealots and probes and stalkers run into the dugout for the transition into offense... and in football and other sports they actual have COMMERICIAL TIME OUTS. time outs not for the players or w/e, timeouts for commercial breaks. are you really going to have nestea PAUSE a game to take a break for commercials?? Think about it In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action. Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha They have different ways around it besides just after games. In a 55 minute game there is going to be some down time to macro up, like when tastosis talks about peanut butter and furry creatures, it is easy to get a 30 second commercial in there and have a recap if any tech switches happen, they can also come back from commercial early if some big action happens. Keep in mind this will only need to happen on the rare super long games any game less than 30 minutes long would be fine to wait till after the game. Yeah but hour long games don't just become hour long games at the end of an hour. They are 15 min games that can end at the 17 min mark if player x does y, 17 min games that can end at the 19 min mark that could end if player z does a etc etc etc. It'd become an art to understand when you could go to commercial xD as in no player has any timings and even a complete moron would not try to force potentially game-ending taktikz Ya I thought of that after posting it -_- lol. I'm still pretty confident they could work it out if enough people watch it. those little things become extremely important though. they only make money from the ads and potential future money if people enjoy the production. so what entices a guy to watch a 55 min tvt and (knowing he's going to have to sit thru 15 mins of commercials thereafter) watch through commercials waiting for the next game? IDK maybe they already know enough about sc2 to figure out when this guy will just randomly run all his shit into a PF or if genius is actually going to be able to end the game with his gw/void ray builds and they're not telling us! xD Jeez guys. Ever watch REAL sports? You wouldn't need to speculate over this shit. They only break to commercial during dead time and between stuff. They will never break in the middle of shit. NFL, NBA, NCAA, etc. all take TV timeouts. So yeah... you're wrong.
The soccer/European method of advertising is really ideal but again, MLG is a day long event. Do you guys really think they're going to get a block like that? It'll be pre-recorded, pre-edited stuff handled by ESPN's production team.
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On October 01 2011 12:19 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 12:17 Ownos wrote:On October 01 2011 11:50 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:47 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:41 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:37 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:32 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:
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In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action. Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha They have different ways around it besides just after games. In a 55 minute game there is going to be some down time to macro up, like when tastosis talks about peanut butter and furry creatures, it is easy to get a 30 second commercial in there and have a recap if any tech switches happen, they can also come back from commercial early if some big action happens. Keep in mind this will only need to happen on the rare super long games any game less than 30 minutes long would be fine to wait till after the game. Yeah but hour long games don't just become hour long games at the end of an hour. They are 15 min games that can end at the 17 min mark if player x does y, 17 min games that can end at the 19 min mark that could end if player z does a etc etc etc. It'd become an art to understand when you could go to commercial xD as in no player has any timings and even a complete moron would not try to force potentially game-ending taktikz Ya I thought of that after posting it -_- lol. I'm still pretty confident they could work it out if enough people watch it. those little things become extremely important though. they only make money from the ads and potential future money if people enjoy the production. so what entices a guy to watch a 55 min tvt and (knowing he's going to have to sit thru 15 mins of commercials thereafter) watch through commercials waiting for the next game? IDK maybe they already know enough about sc2 to figure out when this guy will just randomly run all his shit into a PF or if genius is actually going to be able to end the game with his gw/void ray builds and they're not telling us! xD Jeez guys. Ever watch REAL sports? You wouldn't need to speculate over this shit. They only break to commercial during dead time and between stuff. They will never break in the middle of shit. NFL, NBA, NCAA, etc. all take TV timeouts. So yeah... you're wrong.
And so can Starcraft.
It's not like SC2 game takes 1h everytime.
Commercial after every set sounds good to me.
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If starcraft gets on espn 2 I'll leave my tv running the 24/7 just to give extra viewership for the 1 hour it might air
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this would simplify barcraft work so much!! =D
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Dude this would be awesome. Idk if it will actually happen though.
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Ads will be fine because it will be casted from reps.
Can you imagine "WAITING FOR SERVER..." on ESPN? No, I can't either.
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On October 01 2011 12:19 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 12:17 Ownos wrote:On October 01 2011 11:50 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:47 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:41 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:37 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:32 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:
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In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action. Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha They have different ways around it besides just after games. In a 55 minute game there is going to be some down time to macro up, like when tastosis talks about peanut butter and furry creatures, it is easy to get a 30 second commercial in there and have a recap if any tech switches happen, they can also come back from commercial early if some big action happens. Keep in mind this will only need to happen on the rare super long games any game less than 30 minutes long would be fine to wait till after the game. Yeah but hour long games don't just become hour long games at the end of an hour. They are 15 min games that can end at the 17 min mark if player x does y, 17 min games that can end at the 19 min mark that could end if player z does a etc etc etc. It'd become an art to understand when you could go to commercial xD as in no player has any timings and even a complete moron would not try to force potentially game-ending taktikz Ya I thought of that after posting it -_- lol. I'm still pretty confident they could work it out if enough people watch it. those little things become extremely important though. they only make money from the ads and potential future money if people enjoy the production. so what entices a guy to watch a 55 min tvt and (knowing he's going to have to sit thru 15 mins of commercials thereafter) watch through commercials waiting for the next game? IDK maybe they already know enough about sc2 to figure out when this guy will just randomly run all his shit into a PF or if genius is actually going to be able to end the game with his gw/void ray builds and they're not telling us! xD Jeez guys. Ever watch REAL sports? You wouldn't need to speculate over this shit. They only break to commercial during dead time and between stuff. They will never break in the middle of shit. NFL, NBA, NCAA, etc. all take TV timeouts. So yeah... you're wrong. The soccer/European method of advertising is really ideal but again, MLG is a day long event. Do you guys really think they're going to get a block like that? It'll be pre-recorded, pre-edited stuff handled by ESPN's production team.
Keyword there is "timeout", they don't simply cut to commercial while the action continues off-air. There is plenty of opportunity for the network to get their advertising time in between games.
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woah, so is it actually going to appear on ESPN or did Sundance want to gauge how many people would actually watch it?
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On October 01 2011 12:19 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 12:17 Ownos wrote:On October 01 2011 11:50 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:47 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:41 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:37 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:32 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:29 Yergidy wrote:On October 01 2011 11:24 Alejandrisha wrote:On October 01 2011 11:20 Yergidy wrote:
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In between games, when someone pauses for technical difficulties. Most games only last 20-30 mins which is just fine for commercials. Starcraft would have to have a baseball style commercial system because of course you can't pause in the middle of the game, it would mess up the players too much. I don't know. I guess it's just be cause all the stations that are big have their schedules based around the advertisers ie you have to have a cliff hanger/dramatic moment at this time that fits into a commercial break sched. I could foresee a system where instead of a commercial break every 8 minutes they could skip it and have 2 breaks every other 16. but you're only accounting for the typical. What do you do in the case where you have a 55 minute tvt? could you imagine watching the whole game up to minute 53 and then suddenly the next scheduled program for the netword you're on comes on? And you missed the most insane viking cloud / dual prong nuke / mass yamato all over MVP's face. No just like in baseball they would wait until the inning(game) is over and have commercials after that. Sports have much more leeway with commercials than normal programming, they won't take breaks that will make you miss action. Wow I just had a case of crazy esports bias lol. I was just sitting here, like yeah, they actually never go to break in a 60-pitch-inning-middle-reliever-meltdown situation. But would a network allow for an ~hour (sc2 mins) without having a break and then showing like 5-6 straight at the end? would be a pretty crazy contract to see laid out haha They have different ways around it besides just after games. In a 55 minute game there is going to be some down time to macro up, like when tastosis talks about peanut butter and furry creatures, it is easy to get a 30 second commercial in there and have a recap if any tech switches happen, they can also come back from commercial early if some big action happens. Keep in mind this will only need to happen on the rare super long games any game less than 30 minutes long would be fine to wait till after the game. Yeah but hour long games don't just become hour long games at the end of an hour. They are 15 min games that can end at the 17 min mark if player x does y, 17 min games that can end at the 19 min mark that could end if player z does a etc etc etc. It'd become an art to understand when you could go to commercial xD as in no player has any timings and even a complete moron would not try to force potentially game-ending taktikz Ya I thought of that after posting it -_- lol. I'm still pretty confident they could work it out if enough people watch it. those little things become extremely important though. they only make money from the ads and potential future money if people enjoy the production. so what entices a guy to watch a 55 min tvt and (knowing he's going to have to sit thru 15 mins of commercials thereafter) watch through commercials waiting for the next game? IDK maybe they already know enough about sc2 to figure out when this guy will just randomly run all his shit into a PF or if genius is actually going to be able to end the game with his gw/void ray builds and they're not telling us! xD Jeez guys. Ever watch REAL sports? You wouldn't need to speculate over this shit. They only break to commercial during dead time and between stuff. They will never break in the middle of shit. NFL, NBA, NCAA, etc. all take TV timeouts. So yeah... you're wrong. The soccer/European method of advertising is really ideal but again, MLG is a day long event. Do you guys really think they're going to get a block like that? It'll be pre-recorded, pre-edited stuff handled by ESPN's production team.
Even if it was live coverage, they would be fine because of the soccer/baseball (sometimes you get marathon innings) method. How many sc2 games actually go for an hour anyways?
But I do agree that its going to be pre-recorded stuff at first at least, with the possibility of championship Sunday getting some live coverage.
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Fuck EVERYONE who voted no. Why on earth?
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