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DreamHack Winter 2011 StarCraft II - Page 6

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hoepie
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom96 Posts
September 29 2011 22:41 GMT
#101
lucifron... fightttting?

I hope!
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France656 Posts
September 29 2011 22:43 GMT
#102
I think there is an error on the picture (the one in the OP). There should probably be 43 "open applicants" (rather than 45).

Event will be awesome regardless !
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
September 29 2011 22:43 GMT
#103
On September 30 2011 07:08 r!pp!n wrote:
Haven't seen Moon play in awhile, will be interesting to see how he has progressed


Afaik that's because he's been practising WC3. He qualified for WCG in WC3 a month ago or so. =/
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
September 29 2011 22:44 GMT
#104
On September 30 2011 06:39 BigLighthouse wrote:
I think it will be an amazing event, but I feel as if theyr too invite heavy at the moment. Its really hard to get new players coming through when tournaments become invite focussed sometimes. Still, big names are cool too I guess, gives the people what they want



Even if there were no invites, the people that have been invited would make it to the top anyways so you might as well just invite them knowing that they will accept, rather then making them climb through a pile of games they will most likely win anyways.

Also I feel that doing it this way a up and comer has a better shot of making a name for himself and showing people what he/she may be capable of.

IE: Unknown player shows up to tourney, has amazing skill and an opportunity to show that, only problem now is DRG wasn't an invite and is Unknown's first opponent.
Starcraftplaylist
Profile Joined May 2011
194 Posts
September 29 2011 22:46 GMT
#105
I agree with Thorzain, no communist/socialist prize pool please... attract top players with high price pools... not $1 for everyone.
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
September 29 2011 22:48 GMT
#106
I love the two stages of pool play
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37063 Posts
September 29 2011 22:53 GMT
#107
No DongRaeGu? T-T....
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netsky4
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 22:54:37
September 29 2011 22:54 GMT
#108
On September 30 2011 07:46 Starcraftplaylist wrote:
I agree with Thorzain, no communist/socialist prize pool please... attract top players with high price pools... not $1 for everyone.

Weirdly enough I quoted the same at Dreamhack Valencia and got flamed for hurting esports...
Prize distribution seems to be better than the invitationals though
Edit: OP cut out TB's face ô.Ô
Manical
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden42 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 23:01:03
September 29 2011 22:56 GMT
#109
On September 30 2011 06:52 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 06:07 Thorzain wrote:
On September 30 2011 05:57 AdreN- wrote:
On September 30 2011 05:54 Thorzain wrote:
I think that this tournament's prize distribution is really good. You get 8th and you get 1500$? That's fine. You don't deserve money if you're 9th-16th imo.

Interesting. So you think in a 64-person tourney that only top 8 should get paid? I would think Top 16, since thats the top 25% of the field. It's not like the players here are going to be open bracket masters noobs (like myself xD).

For example, in the tourney you got 2nd in, top 2 getting paid would have been top 25% of field.

Poker tournaments typically payout in this fashion as well (usually top ~30% of field).


The thing is that in a 8 man invitational tournament there's bound to be 8 great players. I'd say give top 3 or 4 money.

In a 64 man tournament held outside of Korea, most of the players are gonna be decent/good but not great.

If you would have a 512 player tournament with most of those players being random BYOC guys at dreamhack, should top 128 get money?

I think that the prize distribution should be relative to the skill of the players instead of the ammount of players.

I hope you get some revenge on DRG and take out #1 this tournament

That is a lot of money; a good spread and first place still gets ~$30,000, that is nice to see. I am interested to see the rest of the player list, but the players that have qualified so far look beastly! So much anticipation - maybe another DreamHuK? Or will the Koreans just roflstomp their way to victory..


No Korean have won the main Dreamhack tournaments yet(excluding the invitationals), even though people like Bomber, MC and July have attended. There's always hope!
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
September 29 2011 23:00 GMT
#110
Its gonna be so sick...
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 29 2011 23:17 GMT
#111
On September 30 2011 07:43 OKMarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 07:08 r!pp!n wrote:
Haven't seen Moon play in awhile, will be interesting to see how he has progressed


Afaik that's because he's been practising WC3. He qualified for WCG in WC3 a month ago or so. =/

There are a few other WC3 tournaments he's playing in as well. But yea, he's in heavy WC3 mode.
Vildhjarta
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden126 Posts
September 29 2011 23:20 GMT
#112
On September 30 2011 05:34 labbe wrote:
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On September 30 2011 05:28 claash wrote:
On September 30 2011 01:09 Morale wrote:
This makes me proud being a Swede (I usually aren't!). Abit top heavy price pool! If Nada and Boxer is coming im goin there for sure!

200 000 SEK = 28 229,45 USD
90 000 SEK = 12 703,25 USD


proud of what? of a high prizepool?
oh dear thats poor....

Yeah, cause national pride is soooo duuumb riight? If he feels proud about the fact that we have the biggest LAN-event in the world here, let him feel proud. It does not hurt anyone.


Spoiler: Off topic
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National pride is dumb. Being proud of something you have nothing to do with, (being born isn't exactly your own doing, neither that or the location of your birth) makes you look retarded. It doesn't hurt anyone..? wow kids these days.
No man has ever been entirely and completely himself. Yet each one strives to become that, one in an awkward, the other in a more intelligent way, each as best he can. - Hermann Hesse, Demian
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 29 2011 23:27 GMT
#113
Damn... so many events happening recently :o
Can't wait to see DRG play ^^
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Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
September 29 2011 23:27 GMT
#114
On September 30 2011 07:56 Manical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 06:52 bkrow wrote:
On September 30 2011 06:07 Thorzain wrote:
On September 30 2011 05:57 AdreN- wrote:
On September 30 2011 05:54 Thorzain wrote:
I think that this tournament's prize distribution is really good. You get 8th and you get 1500$? That's fine. You don't deserve money if you're 9th-16th imo.

Interesting. So you think in a 64-person tourney that only top 8 should get paid? I would think Top 16, since thats the top 25% of the field. It's not like the players here are going to be open bracket masters noobs (like myself xD).

For example, in the tourney you got 2nd in, top 2 getting paid would have been top 25% of field.

Poker tournaments typically payout in this fashion as well (usually top ~30% of field).


The thing is that in a 8 man invitational tournament there's bound to be 8 great players. I'd say give top 3 or 4 money.

In a 64 man tournament held outside of Korea, most of the players are gonna be decent/good but not great.

If you would have a 512 player tournament with most of those players being random BYOC guys at dreamhack, should top 128 get money?

I think that the prize distribution should be relative to the skill of the players instead of the ammount of players.

I hope you get some revenge on DRG and take out #1 this tournament

That is a lot of money; a good spread and first place still gets ~$30,000, that is nice to see. I am interested to see the rest of the player list, but the players that have qualified so far look beastly! So much anticipation - maybe another DreamHuK? Or will the Koreans just roflstomp their way to victory..


No Korean have won the main Dreamhack tournaments yet(excluding the invitationals), even though people like Bomber, MC and July have attended. There's always hope!

Yeah, DH Summer 2011 had Bomber, MC, July, Moon attending and DH Winter 2010 had oGs_TOP and oGs_InCa attending.
With HuK winning DH Summer 2011 and Naama winning DH Winter 2010.
RahviN-
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway18 Posts
September 29 2011 23:40 GMT
#115
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National pride is dumb. Being proud of something you have nothing to do with, (being born isn't exactly your own doing, neither that or the location of your birth) makes you look retarded. It doesn't hurt anyone..? wow kids these days.


Being pride of ones group-membership, wheter there is being a guy, a swede, a sc2-fan or a christian is only natural for humans. People like when other people have something i common, or when another person have something they can identify with, and there's absolutly nothing wrong with that. The error happens when people start flaming people of other groups (such in this example: a norwegian, a girl, a halo-player and a muslim) just based one their membership of other groups. Obviouly thats bad. Point being: Let the man root for his fellow countrymen, nothing bad in being proud of what you are/where you come from etc in itself


As for the tournement: Sweet! Rooting 100% for you ThorZaiN, you'll get the better of DRG this time around;). Also really hoping for 2GD as a host, that guy is a total baller^^
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
September 29 2011 23:40 GMT
#116
On September 30 2011 07:35 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 05:40 Thorzain wrote:
Thank god i placed 2nd in Valencia so that I don't have to apply and be one of 50 lucky chosen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they should also invite you. I doubt there are 50 players I'd rather watch instead of twice as many spoon terran games.

I hope most Korean teams apply for this, also does anyone know if players have to pay for their own travel or not?


You cant honestly imagine DH will be footing the bill for 64+ however many other events like LoL they might be having flights to Sweden do you? My head might actually explode if they were, in a good way of course, but it seems awful unlikely. Maybe we need another Marineking reddit!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45338 Posts
September 29 2011 23:42 GMT
#117
On September 30 2011 07:35 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 05:40 Thorzain wrote:
Thank god i placed 2nd in Valencia so that I don't have to apply and be one of 50 lucky chosen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they should also invite you. I doubt there are 50 players I'd rather watch instead of twice as many spoon terran games.

I hope most Korean teams apply for this, also does anyone know if players have to pay for their own travel or not?


But then it would be weird having a Thorzain vs. Thorzain finals, wouldn't it?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45338 Posts
September 29 2011 23:44 GMT
#118
On September 30 2011 07:53 Seeker wrote:
No DongRaeGu? T-T....


What? He's number five on the list...

And even if he wasn't already announced, he could be invited o.O
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
shawnyee
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden53 Posts
September 29 2011 23:44 GMT
#119
amagaad awesome, ill have to make the trip down there.
Sverige fajting!
AdreN-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States503 Posts
September 29 2011 23:48 GMT
#120
On September 30 2011 06:07 Thorzain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 05:57 AdreN- wrote:
On September 30 2011 05:54 Thorzain wrote:
I think that this tournament's prize distribution is really good. You get 8th and you get 1500$? That's fine. You don't deserve money if you're 9th-16th imo.

Interesting. So you think in a 64-person tourney that only top 8 should get paid? I would think Top 16, since thats the top 25% of the field. It's not like the players here are going to be open bracket masters noobs (like myself xD).

For example, in the tourney you got 2nd in, top 2 getting paid would have been top 25% of field.

Poker tournaments typically payout in this fashion as well (usually top ~30% of field).


The thing is that in a 8 man invitational tournament there's bound to be 8 great players. I'd say give top 3 or 4 money.

In a 64 man tournament held outside of Korea, most of the players are gonna be decent/good but not great.

If you would have a 512 player tournament with most of those players being random BYOC guys at dreamhack, should top 128 get money?

I think that the prize distribution should be relative to the skill of the players instead of the ammount of players.
I agree with you that for a BYOC tournament I wouldn't payout to that many players (see MLG open bracket example from previous post, for instance). However, you do make a good point that if a tournament is 100% invitational there should be a larger % of players that get paid. I think most would agree that at least the 2nd place should have been paid in that tournament. IMO this tournament will have 64 good players, 32 really good players, 16 excellent players, and 8 great ones. Should the "excellent" players not get paid anything (I know this is a generalization, but you get the point)? I just think a larger spread of prize money creates more opportunites for players to actually do this as a profession. Right now if you aren't on a top team with a salary then you're either a slave in korea or a player outside of Korea that plays for "fun" and any money is just an added bonus.
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