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Group B&C are pretty tough already.
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Group A: PiG? YHY?
Group B: Loner! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!
Group C: Idra probably thinks this group is trash
Group D: Dude. Strelok. My favorite group by far.
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Interesting groups. The line up is a little weaker tho compared to Cologne
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Dimaga is the only foreigner with a chance, IdrA will get to the playoffs and lose 1st round.
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Holy smokes group B!
Gogo GLaDe and Dima ! :D
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update: loner and lovecd forfeit their spot YET AGAIN (yes I'm so frustrated and angry), due to G-League finals (provides spot to the grand finals later in october, a mighty 23k$ 1st place prize)been held around the same week.
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This looks like free money for whichever Koreans they invite.
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I have a feeling Korean Invite #2 will win.
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PiG and mOOnGLaDe FIGHTING!!! <3
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Australian zergs fighting! Looking forward to this.
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On September 21 2011 00:06 digmouse wrote:
update: loner and lovecd forfeit their spot YET AGAIN (yes I'm so frustrated and angry), due to G-League finals (provides spot to the grand finals later in october, a mighty 23k$ 1st place prize)been held around the same week.
It feels kinda pointless to invite Chinese players to anything at this rate. They just seem to pull out all the time?
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On September 21 2011 00:06 digmouse wrote:
update: loner and lovecd forfeit their spot YET AGAIN (yes I'm so frustrated and angry), due to G-League finals (provides spot to the grand finals later in october, a mighty 23k$ 1st place prize)been held around the same week.
Do you have this from a chinese website? Can´t find anything on ESL or german esport sites. Source might be good.
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Elfi fighting! Now both Lovecd and Mana forfeit their spots T__T
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On September 21 2011 00:27 Hondelul wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 00:06 digmouse wrote:
update: loner and lovecd forfeit their spot YET AGAIN (yes I'm so frustrated and angry), due to G-League finals (provides spot to the grand finals later in october, a mighty 23k$ 1st place prize)been held around the same week. Do you have this from a chinese website? Can´t find anything on ESL or german esport sites. Source might be good.
direct message from the WE team, and I used to work at a major chinese esports website so sure I got confirmed information about Chinese scene.
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Elfi vs Idra...EZ win for Elfi.
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Glad to see Moonglade up and fighting :3
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If Loner and Lovecd forfeit, they will probably replaced by XiGua and CoMM, not that bad though.
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what the hell moonglade??
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On September 21 2011 00:56 Tchado wrote:
INFI will own all ! :D
INFIN will own all w3 tournaments but get stomped in serious sc2 tournaments!
I love infin but hes obvsly not up to the sc2 competitive level
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On September 22 2011 17:52 qoosakura wrote:INFIN will own all w3 tournaments but get stomped in serious sc2 tournaments! I love infin but hes obvsly not up to the sc2 competitive level
Uh, he used to be really good when I played him a few months ago, has he gotten worse or something?
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F*** yeah! Seeing chinese players playing is so awesome. They are our feature SC gods 
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we need more protosses guys
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A: Puma
B: JYP/Demuslim if he beats him TvP
C: Don't know.
D: Revival ez
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Sad to have Dimaga and Demuslim in the same group, they're my two favorite player and in addition to that their group is really really hard: JYP is a sick korean protoss, and Puma a sick korean terran  .
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Do these invites seem kind of.. random to anyone? No offense to any of the players, but just seems like there could've been better invites.
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My dark horse is Demuslim, realistically Puma.
I've been so impressed by how good Demuslim got lately...his TvZ seems godly.
Hugest upset i am expecting is Idra not taking 1/2ed in his group...don't like his play lately, meaning Jinro could take him, and his PvZ seems just broken, meaning some1 like Elfi could take it.
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any reason as to why iaguz is replacing moonglade?
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IdrA and Strelok to fly to IPL right after...insane-sports October begins.
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such a shame  XlorD had to cancel his participation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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iaguz can get out of that group.
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idra vs jinro cant wait to see that
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i can see XiGua being a real dark horse in his group tbh, also nice to see JYP at IEM ^^
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On September 23 2011 21:33 GTR wrote:
any reason as to why iaguz is replacing moonglade?
He forfeited I believe he had other commitments already so the next highest finisher took his slot.
Go Ethan!
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omg I want to see Dimaga again <3
Also go Dennis! 
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You'd imagine less players would pull out when an event has garunteed prize money even if u go 0-3 in the group stage but I guess not. Im still really excited for this event and hoping for strelok to do well. If nothing else, seeing how the chinese do will be pretty interesting against the foreigners and the 4 (3 lol) korean invites.
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haha You would think there would be better players overall at an iem... well hasu is good, dima is great, puma is great, strelock, jyp, revival and demuslim are all good.
Unfortunately I know no chinese plays aside from xigua.
Ya, well if a chinese player were to take a tournament they will have a better chance at this one that any other it seems.
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What is up with Idra and his sick luck of the draw. Getting Jinro and elfi.
A: Puma, HasuObs (should be easy for them)
B: JYP, Dimaga (group of death, could even see JYP fall)
C: Idra, Jinro
D: Revival, Strelok
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Lol Jinro is Korean and Swedish.
Idra n puma ftw EG
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Strelok wins his group EZ
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A and C are fairly weak groups, lol.
Should be interesting to see IdrA vs Jinro though. Who knows what Jinro's play is like nowadays.
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Weaker Koreans in this. I'd still fancy Puma to win though.
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mmm I think Puma can take it, but xigua also has a chance as he is a mad strong player
and stop bashing the chinese >: its not their fault sometimes when they withdraw
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Nooo Group B is unbearable T_T. Ssss
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Come on Jinro! Show them what you're made of!
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Oh man I can't wait to see how the Chinese perform. They're pretty good on ladder, but don't really participate in international events.
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hmm jinro vs Idra
battle of the slumping foreigners ;d
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I see PuMa taking this, idk too much about the chinese players, but they haven't done much outside of china, idk how they compare to someone like PuMa. Toss up probably between Xigua, demuslim, dimagaa, and idra for 2nd imo. Heard xigua is good, demuslim is really good in tvz when he plays right. IdrA can play really well, but he lets his emotions get to him too much.
Dimaga idk bout his zvt, his zvp is solid, his zvz is NesTea calibur so hmmmm
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Puma and Hasu out of group a,dimaga and demuslim from b, idra and TBA from group c, and Strelok and revival from the last group. Who will win the whole thing.... I just can't see puma losing this.
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My picks:
Group A:
Puma
Group B:
If the rumors of XiGua are true, then I can see him taking the group. If not him, then probably Dimaga.
Group C:
I would really like to say Idra, but Idra has been slumping from his old skill. Jinro seems to have really slumped. If the to be announced player is wicked sick, I could see him taking the group, if not him, then Idra.
Group D:
Strelok. He looks really strong lately.
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MaNa would destroy that group. Oh well.
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Extremely bias, but go Iaguz! ^_^
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On September 26 2011 08:54 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Group C:
I would really like to say Idra, but Idra has been slumping from his old skill. Jinro seems to have really slumped. If the to be announced player is wicked sick, I could see him taking the group, if not him, then Idra.
In shape Idra is obviously a force to be reckoned with.
I think he's actually starting to put in a little work these days, so we might see the best Grack has to offer.
That said, I seriously think Elfi has a chance to earn some fans in this group...
The kid is sick good, and he's been on fire over here in Europe lately.
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Group C IdrA vs Jinro! WOOO Nice groups imo, Group A I think we know who takes it but apart from that, it looks sick!
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hell yeah <3 PiG
Watchin your qualifiers now bro
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gogo strelok and dimaga :D
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Jinro and Strelok fighting! This is a great opportunity for both of them I think.
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hopefully elfi will suprise
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7 Terran
5 Zerg
3 Protoss
1 TBA
For those who were wondering. ;/
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as long as someone from Team EG wins than i will be happy.
side note please please please for the love of god lets this come on at a reasonable hour
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Few notables in this tournament more interested in the Chinese players as i have no idea what skill level they are.
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I think Puma will win this.
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Are Bitterdam casting this?
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Everyone looking for a chinese player beating PuMa. I'm looking for that too, but I hope the SEA peeps wreck some shit up!
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Group B is definitely the Group of Death. If Dimaga is as good as he was in GSLWC (dunno about his current shape) I definitely see him advancing along with xigua. Demuslim just recently recovered from his injury and JYP is Protoss despite being Korean and Protoss has been underperforming lately.
As a person who's aware of the Chinese BW and War3 scene for 6+years, I have no idea who YHY and Way are
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as much as i want to see idrA win it, i dont think he will
my expectations about his performance are very low right now, i will cheer with all my heart, but will not be suprised if it wont go well for him.
i think Dimaga and Puma are the favourites to win, GL to everyone.
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Jinro will make a comeback here !
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The Koreans are going to dominate so incredibly hard in this tournament, they are great and this is not the best representation of Foreigners.
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Anyone know if there is an update on the TBA from Group C? This tournament is only a couple days off lol.
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Group B is absolutely crazy, gl demu I'll be cheering for you as always!
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PuMa will probably take it all. None of those players really compare to him.
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I'd pay just to watch group B play lol, that's so absurdly stacked.
I mean, wow!
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Another Free tournament win for Puma. GL to the field
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I think Revival might take it actually. Puma will probably make the finals and JYP will get 3rd. Dimaga is my wildcard.
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Where is Infi.........
I rly hope Infi could owning them all ^^
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this will be no ez win for puma and IEM seems to get less hype compared to other tournaments, so sad.
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Group B is far and away the most interesting group.
Should be an entertaining event!
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On September 27 2011 06:04 Kazeyonoma wrote:
what, no xiaoqt?
afaik he is no longer playing, there were some rumors about him getting some big coach/management role but not quite sure what ended up happening.
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xiaOt is still playing but there is another major event in China this weekend, which is the reason why some of the best Chineese players opted out of IEM.
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Glade made iaguz look soo many levels below him the last time i saw them play.
I hope he doesn't just get stomped every game.
Australia fighting!
edit: and DIMAGA!
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Cheering for PiG just because of his awesome TLPD picture.
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Demuslim will be replaced by FnaticMSI.Rain, just so you all know.
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On September 27 2011 18:18 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Demuslim will be replaced by FnaticMSI.Rain, just so you all know.
That will make group B the group of death. Any update of the tba Chinese slot?
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On September 27 2011 05:58 Halcyondaze wrote:
Another Free tournament win for Puma. GL to the field
no one is winning tournaments for free, even Koreans
its not even close to BW difference really
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More free money for Puma I guess. Will be interesting to see how the Chinese players fare against the rest of the world.
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So is it basically confirmed that DeMusliM will be replaced by Rain?
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Oh my god group B is sick
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why are so many people saying stuff like "free win for puma"? yeah he is one of the favourites, but what about JYP? he's best just frickin amazing lateley
+ Show Spoiler +well.. apart from yesterday in the gsl
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I really think Revival is going to win this.
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On September 27 2011 20:53 bokchoi wrote:
So is it basically confirmed that DeMusliM will be replaced by Rain?
Yes, Rain will be ther instead of DeMusliM
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Thought this could be DeMusliM's breakout, badtimes .
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Demuslim ftw
Edit: Oops, apparently not
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I'm in disbelief this is like a couple days out and there is no word on the 4th Chinese invite. I'm supposed to be writing an article for a site on this event, but it's a couple days out they don't even have the invite list out?
Cmon ESL.......
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On September 27 2011 18:11 Za7oX wrote:
Glade made iaguz look soo many levels below him the last time i saw them play.
I hope he doesn't just get stomped every game.
You mean in my Dox Cup event where iaguz took 3 games in a row from GLaDe, narrowly losing by a single map in a double-best of three?
P.S. Go PiG and iaguz! Taking work off on Monday just to watch you guys and cheer you on. <3
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On September 29 2011 10:02 Dox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 18:11 Za7oX wrote:
Glade made iaguz look soo many levels below him the last time i saw them play.
I hope he doesn't just get stomped every game. You mean in my Dox Cup event where iaguz took 3 games in a row from GLaDe, narrowly losing by a single map in a double-best of three? P.S. Go PiG and iaguz! Taking work off on Monday just to watch you guys and cheer you on. <3
Nope not your cup. Didn't catch that.
Might have been the blizzcon invitational or something else not too long before it. Glade rolled him pritty bad.
Fingers crossed they do well and show the international scene that we have more players than Glade
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PuMa
Dimaga
Jinro
RevivaL
My picks.
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Rain missed his flight... IEM told us he didn't need a VISA and he went to the airport and said he needed one ~____________~
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At first, I was like "Yeah DeMusliM, he's on a roll right now!"
Then I heard Rain was going and I was like "YEAH! Rain!"
Now I'm sad.
T_T
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So, who will be playing in that slot? I don't think it's too late for SOMEONE to take the slot right?
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On September 30 2011 15:09 Xeris wrote:
Rain missed his flight... IEM told us he didn't need a VISA and he went to the airport and said he needed one ~____________~
Why would he not need his VISA?
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On September 30 2011 15:23 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 15:09 Xeris wrote:
Rain missed his flight... IEM told us he didn't need a VISA and he went to the airport and said he needed one ~____________~ Why would he not need his VISA?
Cuz... IEM said so..
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On September 30 2011 15:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So, who will be playing in that slot? I don't think it's too late for SOMEONE to take the slot right?
its in a day... I really doubt they can get someone to China on time for this.
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On September 30 2011 15:26 zemotion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 15:23 jmbthirteen wrote:On September 30 2011 15:09 Xeris wrote:
Rain missed his flight... IEM told us he didn't need a VISA and he went to the airport and said he needed one ~____________~ Why would he not need his VISA? Cuz... IEM said so..
I got that and am not blaming Rain or Xeris, just wondering why IEM thought he wouldn't need his VISA.
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On September 30 2011 15:28 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 15:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So, who will be playing in that slot? I don't think it's too late for SOMEONE to take the slot right? its in a day... I really doubt they can get someone to China on time for this.
I don't think they could get a foreigner there on time, but I think it wouldn't be TOO hard to get a Korean there, or a Chinese/Taiwanese player just to fill the slot.
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It's okay Rain got his visa and he'll be going to Guangzhou after all!
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lol group B, pretty sick
also idra gna be mad after elfi cheeses him
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Anyone know the time this is starting? Its not on TL calendar and I couldn't find it on ESL's site.
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We were told, in an exact quote, when IEM asked us if Rain could replace DeMusliM, "hes Korean and won't need a VISA."
Obviously we trust an official word from IEM staff -- Korea and China are neighbors, seems pretty reasonable that a Korean citizen might not need a VISA to go to China...
Then at the airport we find out that this isn't the case. Not only do we have to spend about $500 to get him an emergency VISA and change his flight to the next day, but the flight is changed to today, the tournament starts today.
We're told that his match starts at 11am and he should get to the venue and start playing immediately after arriving. They're expecting a 17 year old kid to get around that quickly in a foreign country T_____T
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sucks to hear that xeris... another drama story =(
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You seriously didn't bother double checking it when that kind of information is available in the net? Don't just blame IEM only imo.
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Lol Xeris, the tournaments hosted by you always had all kind of issues. Try to work on that first and then make public the issues you have with other organizers.
What are you trying to accomplish with that post? make us hate ESL?
Maybe IEM didn't knew that Rain is in US, and even if they knew, it's your job to double check possible VISA issues for your own players.
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Don't be dicks to Xeris because he does more for eSports then you bitches will ever do.. He's just frustrated and is venting. ESL fucked him there because he didn't have any time to do things right, the way it should be done!
It doesn't mean ESL is "killing esports" or whatever.. it just means they didn't behave like they usually do and should.
Ît sucks for ESL, Fnatix+Xeris and especially Rain..
GL tho hope they wait for him, i expect that for messing this up.
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Why should IEM have a clue about the Visa regulations between Korea/China (or/and a Korean that lives in the US)?
I mean, it's shitty that they said he doesn't need one, but ahm... Shouldn't the manager of Rain know these kind of things in the first place?
I understand your venting but blaming IEM 100% is also not the way. If i would blame anyone then the players (or the teams) that qualified and decided not to go... This most probably wasn't easy for IEM too...
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On September 30 2011 23:46 Xeris wrote:
I'm really disappointed with the IEM management in this case. We were told, in an exact quote, when IEM asked us if Rain could replace DeMusliM, "hes Korean and won't need a VISA."
Obviously we trust an official word from IEM staff -- Korea and China are neighbors, seems pretty reasonable that a Korean citizen might not need a VISA to go to China...
Then at the airport we find out that this isn't the case. Not only do we have to spend about $500 to get him an emergency VISA and change his flight to the next day, but the flight is changed to today, the tournament starts today.
Not only did IEM not apologize for giving us wrong information and screwing this trip for Rain, we're told that his match starts at 11am and he should get to the venue and start playing immediately after arriving. They're expecting a 17 year old kid to get around that quickly in a foreign country T_____T
Seems more like your team's management is incompetent, whether or not a VISA is needed by Rain is something your management should've addressed in advance. "Korea and China are neighbors" part is extremely naive and borderline ignorant. When traveling to other countries you should always check if a VISA is required, this simple information is available online. Yes the IEM staff might have mistaken your players situation, but is the job of management not to just take peoples word on something like this, but to explore every avenue and cross check the information with other sources.
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I'm not blaming IEM 100% , it's just a shitty situation and it seems strange that a tournament organizer would give us wrong info like that. I mean if the organizer of a tournament gives us some info, we expect it to be true.
If DH tells us that they will be covering the hotel for Valencia, for example, why would we second guess that? Especially with a big organization such as MLG, IEM, etc, we trust that they've been around and have built up enough credibility that when they say something it means they know it.
Obviously, should have double checked which is partly my fault of course. It's a crappy situation though, feel bad for Rain mostly
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ANYWAYS, point being it's worked out and he'll be getting there and will be playing
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On October 01 2011 00:14 shell wrote:
Don't be dicks to Xeris because he does more for eSports then you bitches will ever do.. He's just frustrated and is venting. ESL fucked him there because he didn't have any time to do things right, the way it should be done!
It doesn't mean ESL is "killing esports" or whatever.. it just means they didn't behave like they usually do and should.
Ît sucks for ESL, Fnatix+Xeris and especially Rain..
GL tho hope they wait for him, i expect that for messing this up.
"then you bitches will ever do" - temp ban anyone?
No one is being a Dick to Xeris, it's just that time and time again his incompetence shows through, and he always has a convenient excuse/explanation for it. ESL didn't screw him over, his own ignorance towards the issue did. Furthermore, just because you do something for eSports, doesn't mean you get to abuse the position. No one is doing "work" for eSports because of devoted selflessness, it's because they are passionate about the industry and gaming in general. He's doing what he loves, he doesn't need any special treatment.
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On October 01 2011 00:21 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 00:14 shell wrote:
Don't be dicks to Xeris because he does more for eSports then you bitches will ever do.. He's just frustrated and is venting. ESL fucked him there because he didn't have any time to do things right, the way it should be done!
It doesn't mean ESL is "killing esports" or whatever.. it just means they didn't behave like they usually do and should.
Ît sucks for ESL, Fnatix+Xeris and especially Rain..
GL tho hope they wait for him, i expect that for messing this up. "then you bitches will ever do" - temp ban anyone? No one is being a Dick to Xeris, it's just that time and time again his incompetence shows through, and he always has a convenient excuse/explanation for it. ESL didn't screw him over, his own ignorance towards the issue did. Furthermore, just because you do something for eSports, doesn't mean you get to abuse the position. No one is doing "work" for eSports because of devoted selflessness, it's because they are passionate about the industry and gaming in general. He's doing what he loves, he doesn't need any special treatment.
What abuse or special treatment are you talking about? I just posted about a situation and expressed my disappointment, no need to read too much intoit
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What incompetence are you talking about?
The fact that he was one of the guys responsible for giving 100k to SC2 players in prizes in a tournament like NASL? what is the problem? the lag? the casters? the players? Or maybe you don't like CGPL or you think fnatic is not being run properly?
100k man that's like all the MLG's vs 2 !
So yes you are being a bitch because if he is incompetent for some minor mistakes in a tournament then i guess i would love to have 10 more incompetent xeris out there creating tournaments, managing great teams like fnatic, more events, etc..
you are nothing but a whiner and a sorry ass that doesn't 1% of what the incompetent Xeris does...
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After talking with IEM they've arranged a pickup for Rain at the hotel (yay)... so everything is good.
peace and love everyone
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Nice, glad things worked out like they should.
<3
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LOL at group B. Best European, best American, best Korean and best Chinese all in the same group :oo
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Everyone else is already saying, but yeah group B is by far the hardest.
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Didn't rain have massive airport problems at dreamhack valenica too? (not visa problems but other problems that weren't his fault, which made him get stuck at the airport for a very very long time) poor rain
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On October 01 2011 00:57 Choboo wrote:
LOL at group B. Best European, best American, best Korean and best Chinese all in the same group :oo
rain better than puma is pushing it. def the roughest group overall though.
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On October 01 2011 03:26 Shaetan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 00:57 Choboo wrote:
LOL at group B. Best European, best American, best Korean and best Chinese all in the same group :oo rain better than puma is pushing it. def the roughest group overall though.
Rain is only the American invite, JYP is the Korean ^-^ That's what makes it the toughest!
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Ooh PiG and Idra <333
Gonna fucking love seeing this!
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