On June 17 2012 01:04 freakhill wrote:
This severely needs to be refreshed. I'm bronze-silver and my SQ varies between 55 and 90 in 20mn+ games. (SQ 90 being the only game i managed to win TvP)

Edit: nvm

Sheet

Sweden2 Posts

June 25 2012 16:47 GMT

#1202

Great post with intresting reading and it gave me something to think about!

Joka

Sweden27 Posts

July 09 2012 18:26 GMT

#1203

So... any volunteers to make an updated SQ-scale?

Di3s3l

97 Posts

July 22 2012 18:16 GMT

#1204

This is absolutely amazing..speechless, this is hands down the single best item I've seen from anyone in any gaming community.

iremnant3847

Taiwan269 Posts

July 23 2012 06:48 GMT

#1205

A highly detailed, analytical, and thorough thread that I enjoyed reading every second of. Not only that, the article also tempts one to look back and just take a look at mechanics (worker production) and review general flaws in play. I can't even begin to imagine the amount of time you put in to this....

Great work! I look forward to more of your threads!

-Switch-

Canada506 Posts

July 23 2012 07:04 GMT

#1206

Pretty sick post.

Relevant

United States63 Posts

July 30 2012 16:51 GMT

#1207

Nooby scrub question: where do you get the data? I went to match history in bnet, but I can't click on any games...

Forsy

Canada36 Posts

August 02 2012 03:29 GMT

#1208

On July 10 2012 03:26 Joka wrote:
So... any volunteers to make an updated SQ-scale?

EDIT: Based on that SQ report from last year, the original scale still works well with Protoss. Terran I think could be moved up +25 at every league, while Z could be moved up +30 (5 more than terran).

If the players have improved macro since then, then each race/league would probably move up another 5 or 10pts.

Z T P
Bronze 69 64 39
Silver 78 73 48
Gold 82 77 52
Platinum 88 83 58
Diamond 95 90 65
Master 102 97 72
GM 112 107 82
Koreans 122 117 92
Limit 137 132 107

ElizarTringov

Bulgaria317 Posts

August 02 2012 14:16 GMT

#1209

Do the charts account for the fact that GrandMaster and Master players lose a lot more workers because they play Grandmaster and Master players harass a lot more than Bronze-Diamond? I think that is a pretty important factor, because of course a bronze player is going to drop off at a certain point because he is not being harrased and does not need to make more workers, while a masters player can get harrased and would need to make additional workers.

ScienceNotBusiness

United States91 Posts

August 02 2012 14:24 GMT

#1210

AnachronisticAnarchy

United States2957 Posts

August 08 2012 17:50 GMT

#1211

Do I substitute I and U in the equation with averages of unspent resources and income, or do I substitute I and U for whatever those values are at the end of the replay?

IronyDK

Denmark142 Posts

August 08 2012 18:38 GMT

#1212

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chris5180

198 Posts

August 19 2012 05:28 GMT

#1213

really informative post, thank you!!!!!

INTENZ-_-

Sweden137 Posts

August 19 2012 05:40 GMT

#1214

Great post, thanks!

ExoTau

Canada67 Posts

September 04 2012 01:21 GMT

#1215

On July 31 2012 01:51 Relevant wrote:
Nooby scrub question: where do you get the data? I went to match history in bnet, but I can't click on any games...

-On the game summary screen, click the second tab: Economy Breakdown.

-Use the UNSPENT and RESSOURCE COLLECTION RATE to plug in the formula.

Natespank

Canada449 Posts

September 04 2012 01:27 GMT

#1216

Forsy, where did you get those numbers?

Hordeon

Lithuania72 Posts

September 22 2012 21:26 GMT

#1217

My spending quotient (SQ is: 91)

Lol, the funniest thing is that I'm not even GM. But TOP25 Master.

ZackAttack

United States884 Posts

September 22 2012 21:39 GMT

#1218

A bronze player will never lose because he makes too many workers.

StarGalaxy

Germany744 Posts

September 22 2012 21:53 GMT

#1219

On September 23 2012 06:26 Hordeon wrote:
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My spending quotient (SQ is: 91)

Lol, the funniest thing is that I'm not even GM. But TOP25 Master.

sick, i am also high master but with only around 80 SQ.

nanoscorp

United States1237 Posts

September 22 2012 21:54 GMT

#1220

On September 23 2012 06:39 ZackAttack wrote:

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A bronze player will never lose because he makes too many workers.

What? Played zerg vs 4-gate? I'd wager that smooth macro in bronze league isn't enough to guarantee a win if you're up against an early timing attack. There are a lot of aggressive 1-base all-ins that aren't too hard to execute (ie Bronze can probably hit within 15-20s of a Diamond or higher) and can grab a quick win against heavy econ play.

I think a better way to put it would be: until you go all-in or your opponent does, don't cut workers, they'll pay off sooner than you think. Lower league players may have less total opportunity for worker production due to a prevalence of 1-base attacks, but their average game length should be shorter as well.