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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
June 03 2012 15:50 GMT
#1181
What is up with the players or the game where someone made over 160 workers by the 20 min mark :s
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Arvd
Profile Joined September 2011
England54 Posts
June 03 2012 15:56 GMT
#1182
On June 04 2012 00:50 Dontkillme wrote:
What is up with the players or the game where someone made over 160 workers by the 20 min mark :s

At higher levels of gameplay the game used to have tonnes of more effective harass than now-a-days so it was not rare in later games for 60+ workers to die and zerg liked their 100 workers ^^ I don't think you will see that many worker kills recently but that is probably why so many workers were made in that game :D

Ps: Anyone willing to bet that that was Ret? :D
"The better you get the more you realize you are really bad."
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
June 03 2012 15:56 GMT
#1183
On June 04 2012 00:26 NVRLand wrote:
I feel that there is something weird with this.
I got an avg SQ of 70 (Lowest 54, highest 85) and I find this very hard to believe since it would be equivelent to high master while I am top gold (facing platinum players time to time). I calculated the stats from my last 10 games which had an avg. income of 650+ (Only one game was below 1100 tho).

Really impressive work tho! Kudos to you for doing this!



average income of 650+ but only 1 game was below 1100?
NVRLand
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden203 Posts
June 03 2012 16:15 GMT
#1184
On June 04 2012 00:56 Kaitokid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 00:26 NVRLand wrote:
I feel that there is something weird with this.
I got an avg SQ of 70 (Lowest 54, highest 85) and I find this very hard to believe since it would be equivelent to high master while I am top gold (facing platinum players time to time). I calculated the stats from my last 10 games which had an avg. income of 650+ (Only one game was below 1100 tho).

Really impressive work tho! Kudos to you for doing this!



average income of 650+ but only 1 game was below 1100?


I chose only the games where the avg income was 650 or higher (for each game)
Xenocryst
Profile Joined December 2010
United States521 Posts
June 03 2012 16:32 GMT
#1185
Awesome im going to have to try to calculate ^^
_NIx_
Profile Joined June 2011
United States49 Posts
June 05 2012 22:00 GMT
#1186
I have an 81 SQ... but i'm diamond :I
MooseMasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden42 Posts
June 05 2012 22:14 GMT
#1187
I get 100+ consistently and I'm low masters

Does that make me a retard when it comes to decision-making?
Tell future generations it was good for the economy, when they can't farm the land, drink the water or breathe the air
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
June 05 2012 22:16 GMT
#1188
The macro level of professionals has increased quite a bit since the original OP, I would be curious to see similar numbers from a more recent tournament.
In Inca we trust
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 23:07:20
June 05 2012 22:56 GMT
#1189
On June 06 2012 07:14 MooseMasher wrote:
I get 100+ consistently and I'm low masters

Does that make me a retard when it comes to decision-making?


I'm in same shoes man, my macro is GM level but I'm low masters. Yeah, it's probably decision-making
Bumbler
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany10 Posts
June 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#1190
My SQ is about 86 during the last 5 games I played. (One game was a TvT macro game, where i have a SQ of 58)
But I'm just mid master.
I think that pros are constantly beyond 100 nowadays and decision-making has become more important then macro.
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
June 16 2012 16:04 GMT
#1191
This severely needs to be refreshed. I'm bronze-silver and my SQ varies between 55 and 90 in 20mn+ games. (SQ 90 being the only game i managed to win TvP)
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
June 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#1192
great post O_O
Allscorpion
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom319 Posts
June 16 2012 17:43 GMT
#1193
Definitely need a poll for thread of the year and this is no.1 for hard work.
Day[9] Made me do it
asdir
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany39 Posts
June 18 2012 11:55 GMT
#1194
@whatthefat: Have not read the whole thread, so forgive me if that has been asked before: Did you ever think about running a regression to try and determine if SQ is the best explanation for winning (or something else)?

If you still have the data, do you mind if I take a look and try my luck?
SuperMario
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 17:19:57
June 18 2012 17:19 GMT
#1195
would anyone be willing to team up and try to get a bigger and more current sample size??? i was thinking we could do 2 random divisions for each league(and all of Grand Master) and do the last three games each has played. What do you all think??? If we all take one division it wont take long.


Edit;typo
Scheme
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom210 Posts
June 24 2012 14:44 GMT
#1196
Do you think there will be any major difference if you data was to be increased substantially?
Maybe if you set up some sort of way to upload excel spreadsheet with the data and peoples Battle.net profile you would be able to confirm/revise your formula.
PauseBreak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
June 24 2012 18:32 GMT
#1197
I am a Gold player. I have a SQ like a Diamond/Platinum. But that obviously doesn't mean I play like one. Anyone can get themselves to mid and late game. Its all about engagements and handling situation which all comes with practice and a clear smart head. If you panic, like I do a lot of the times, little mistakes start adding up into bigger ones.

This thread is great! And has a lot of hard work in it. For someone who is having a good time in Bronze or Silver (winning most of their games) but can't seem to get out of the lower tier leagues, its probably because they SQ is low and they need to find a way to macro more effectiently. I think that's the key for those situations? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
June 24 2012 19:33 GMT
#1198
Interesting write up.

I tend to have 90-110 in my 20 minute+ games.
PersonDudeGuy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada47 Posts
June 24 2012 19:38 GMT
#1199
Jesus so does that mean that the difference between top masters and low diamond is the difference between GM and masters at least in terms of macro?
Double hellion openings ftw
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 19:53:25
June 24 2012 19:53 GMT
#1200
On June 25 2012 04:38 PersonDudeGuy wrote:
Jesus so does that mean that the difference between top masters and low diamond is the difference between GM and masters at least in terms of macro?


Difference between GM and low/mid is much higher than Top masters and low diamond in my opinion. When you are high master the mistakes you make and what you have to improve is much, much less clear than in let's say low diamond.
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