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Slikk
Profile Joined August 2008
Norway81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 19:51:44
September 30 2011 16:11 GMT
#921
What an incredible post. I'll take my time on this one...
CNSnow
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Greece67 Posts
October 01 2011 13:04 GMT
#922
OK, this is an awsome post!!! Very, very good job and I hope you to make more posts like this one.
But I wanna ask you, how did you find all those information? I know that at the score screen you can see how many workeers you created, but how can I see how many workers did I had at 10, at 15 or at 25 mins.
From the build order you can find only till 8-12.
I know that I can find out this from my replay but how can I find it from the score screen. Andhow did u found out that and made those graps. Thank you for this post!
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 13:12:35
October 01 2011 13:11 GMT
#923
I'm not so sure that only 300 games per league is a very accurate representation of each league as a whole, but I can see that you put a lot of work into this (and 1 person doing more than that would be insane) so good job nonetheless.

I think I would have rather seen 50 from each league with 6 games played a piece rather than 100 with 3, or something like that. Seems like it would be a little bit more of an average then.
zinic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands28 Posts
October 01 2011 13:42 GMT
#924
how does this guy not have a nobel price yet?

i liked it even though the calculations etc. i dont realy understand
since well ye i didnt study that... the end rusults and graphs are easy to
follow... its fun to see the great amounts of differences throughout all leagues :D
Why i no GM ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) !!!
Daedaluz
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany19 Posts
October 01 2011 14:01 GMT
#925
I'm not sure I'm calculating this right...
On the 2 games I just played I got a spending quotient of 94,2595920801 and 86,8441484526, which seems absurdly high for a lowly diamond scrub. My average unspent ressources were 725
and 1374 respectively, while my average income was 1768 and 2080 respectively. Could someone plop that into the formula and check if my calculation was correct?


On October 27 2011 21:52 Kabras wrote:Terran is the new zerg while toss is a fuckin skeleton vampire swordsman from hell who shoots fireballs from his ass and shits all over everyone else's stuff.
Brutus
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 14:56:53
October 01 2011 14:55 GMT
#926
On October 01 2011 23:01 Daedaluz wrote:
I'm not sure I'm calculating this right...
On the 2 games I just played I got a spending quotient of 94,2595920801 and 86,8441484526, which seems absurdly high for a lowly diamond scrub. My average unspent ressources were 725
and 1374 respectively, while my average income was 1768 and 2080 respectively. Could someone plop that into the formula and check if my calculation was correct?




It is also important to remember that there is a lot of game-to-game variability in SQ; a Diamond player could feasibly outscore a Grandmaster player in a single game, but they would be highly unlikely to do so when averaged across many games.
Daedaluz
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany19 Posts
October 01 2011 15:40 GMT
#927
On October 01 2011 23:55 Brutus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 23:01 Daedaluz wrote:
I'm not sure I'm calculating this right...
On the 2 games I just played I got a spending quotient of 94,2595920801 and 86,8441484526, which seems absurdly high for a lowly diamond scrub. My average unspent ressources were 725
and 1374 respectively, while my average income was 1768 and 2080 respectively. Could someone plop that into the formula and check if my calculation was correct?




It is also important to remember that there is a lot of game-to-game variability in SQ; a Diamond player could feasibly outscore a Grandmaster player in a single game, but they would be highly unlikely to do so when averaged across many games.


Ohhh I didn't see that. I wasn't implying I macro as well as a GM player ... I just thought that what I calculated was extremely improbable, so I just want someone to check if my math is correct.
On October 27 2011 21:52 Kabras wrote:Terran is the new zerg while toss is a fuckin skeleton vampire swordsman from hell who shoots fireballs from his ass and shits all over everyone else's stuff.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
October 01 2011 16:19 GMT
#928
On October 02 2011 00:40 Daedaluz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 23:55 Brutus wrote:
On October 01 2011 23:01 Daedaluz wrote:
I'm not sure I'm calculating this right...
On the 2 games I just played I got a spending quotient of 94,2595920801 and 86,8441484526, which seems absurdly high for a lowly diamond scrub. My average unspent ressources were 725
and 1374 respectively, while my average income was 1768 and 2080 respectively. Could someone plop that into the formula and check if my calculation was correct?




It is also important to remember that there is a lot of game-to-game variability in SQ; a Diamond player could feasibly outscore a Grandmaster player in a single game, but they would be highly unlikely to do so when averaged across many games.


Ohhh I didn't see that. I wasn't implying I macro as well as a GM player ... I just thought that what I calculated was extremely improbable, so I just want someone to check if my math is correct.


Your calculations are correct.
The spice must flow
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
October 01 2011 20:19 GMT
#929
I think Blizzard should add an average unspent resources tab for replays.
The spice must flow
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 21:21:08
October 01 2011 21:20 GMT
#930
I got 83...
I'm platinum...
Edit: didn't see above posts.
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CactusSC2
Profile Joined October 2010
United States61 Posts
October 01 2011 22:24 GMT
#931
After playing a bunch of games, I'm pretty impressed with this... While its not 100% accurate in the small sample size I've given it, it is very good as I compare it to itself and look for self improvement... I prefer checking this number than any other stat after games to see how I'm improving... Thank you for this...
"To absent friends, lost loves, old gods, and the season of mists; and may each and every one of us always give the devil his due."
springtree
Profile Joined August 2010
74 Posts
October 02 2011 14:48 GMT
#932
I played a bunch of games and it put me exactly in plat, where I'm at. Very cool.
斗 シ ツ ♪ ♡
SoulWager
Profile Joined August 2010
United States464 Posts
October 03 2011 20:15 GMT
#933
considering the way the different races' macro works, i think T should have the highest minimum SQ at a particular skill level, because there's no good reason for a T to wait on spending money, while Z quite often will save up larva and mins for a key tech building to finish, and protoss often produce in waves with warpin, where they have a moderate buildup of minerals between the construction of gateways and the second wave of warpins from those gateways.
Brainiak
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany91 Posts
October 03 2011 20:24 GMT
#934
On October 02 2011 00:40 Daedaluz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 23:55 Brutus wrote:
On October 01 2011 23:01 Daedaluz wrote:
I'm not sure I'm calculating this right...
On the 2 games I just played I got a spending quotient of 94,2595920801 and 86,8441484526, which seems absurdly high for a lowly diamond scrub. My average unspent ressources were 725
and 1374 respectively, while my average income was 1768 and 2080 respectively. Could someone plop that into the formula and check if my calculation was correct?




It is also important to remember that there is a lot of game-to-game variability in SQ; a Diamond player could feasibly outscore a Grandmaster player in a single game, but they would be highly unlikely to do so when averaged across many games.


Ohhh I didn't see that. I wasn't implying I macro as well as a GM player ... I just thought that what I calculated was extremely improbable, so I just want someone to check if my math is correct.

The problem with the math is, that blizzard only accounts for the money on the bank (top right). but you can also have units in the production line (goody style). This money doesnt do anything, but in the end you will have a great result, because you "spent" that money
“History is written by the victors.” Winston Churchill
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
October 03 2011 20:38 GMT
#935
This was a really goood read, surprised about the difference between gm and masters vs masters and diamond
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
2l84that
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkey35 Posts
October 03 2011 20:54 GMT
#936
I rarely post, yet I feel an urgent desire to express how well-written this post/article is. Kudos, to you, kudos. Pretty much the best post I have seen in TL in a while.
ChineseWife
Profile Joined August 2010
United States373 Posts
October 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#937
scored a 94 on a few games i played last night. does that make me a better macro player than idra?
Oops I made no units
ePAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
October 03 2011 21:11 GMT
#938
Quite the informative post, excellent analyses!

Thanks for taking the time to write this!
Th0R
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada359 Posts
October 05 2011 05:29 GMT
#939
Very nice post. I'm a high diamond player macroing at a mid-top masters level. Lol so sweet
Protoss Player | @ScThoR_ | www.Twitch.tv/ScThoR | Business Student and Entrepreneur
Wizard4k
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany4 Posts
October 05 2011 12:51 GMT
#940
Awesome work.

I have played around with the Excel file a little, adding in a simple yet in my believe appealing "graphical" display of the SQ. I won't waste your time trying to explain it, just take a look at it:
http://www.filesonic.com/file/2342166194/Spending_Quotient_SC2_Lower_Leagues.xlsx
http://www.filesonic.com/file/2342166204/Spending_Quotient_SC2.xlsx

I made 2 versions since sadly, the Excel scaling only allows 5 different leagues to be displayed properly. Naturally, you can adjust the scale to your own wishes by just selecting the cells and choosing "Conditional Formatting -> Manage Rules".
Let me know what you think about it!
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