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eidol
United States20 Posts
On October 04 2011 06:05 ChineseWife wrote: scored a 94 on a few games i played last night. does that make me a better macro player than idra? Idra scored over 100 a few times. Your very high results are near his "average" macro games. | ||
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Brazil71 Posts
I'm a Bronze Leaguer. LOL avUR RCs SQ 1 507 1375 87,93336487 2 848 1486 75,25287775 3 492 1547 97,23189492 4 640 1451 83,42406383 5 402 1281 91,5481269 6 760 1403 75,10770484 avSQ: 85,08300552 | ||
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
On October 06 2011 07:12 submit wrote: Believe it, or not, I don't really care: I'm a Bronze Leaguer. LOL avUR RCs SQ 1 507 1375 87,93336487 2 848 1486 75,25287775 3 492 1547 97,23189492 4 640 1451 83,42406383 5 402 1281 91,5481269 6 760 1403 75,10770484 avSQ: 85,08300552 That's very good spending for bronze, but you really need more games than that to get a fully reliable estimate. I'd recommend using about 20 consecutive games (and no handpicking of games). | ||
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
A comparative analysis of SQ scores for pros in different ladder regions is currently being conducted. So far we have collected data for the American and European servers (with interesting conclusions). We'd very much like to extend this analysis to include other ladder regions. If you have an account on the Korean, Chinese, or South East Asian servers, and you are interested in contributing, please PM me for more details. The data collection has been greatly streamlined compared to the analysis I conducted here, meaning it does not take a great amount of time. | ||
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Brazil71 Posts
On October 06 2011 08:00 whatthefat wrote: That's very good spending for bronze, but you really need more games than that to get a fully reliable estimate. I'd recommend using about 20 consecutive games (and no handpicking of games). That's what I played so far in this season, going to play more games later :D | ||
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FreedomPeacer
Canada67 Posts
On October 06 2011 07:12 submit wrote: Believe it, or not, I don't really care: I'm a Bronze Leaguer. LOL avUR RCs SQ 1 507 1375 87,93336487 2 848 1486 75,25287775 3 492 1547 97,23189492 4 640 1451 83,42406383 5 402 1281 91,5481269 6 760 1403 75,10770484 avSQ: 85,08300552 that just shows a flaw in comparing sq across leagues. in bronze level games you have more time to devote to macro so you can easily get a high score, while in higher leagues you have less due to pressure/harass etc. | ||
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Brazil71 Posts
On October 06 2011 08:14 cosmincontra wrote: that just shows a flaw in comparing sq across leagues. in bronze level games you have more time to devote to macro so you can easily get a high score, while in higher leagues you have less due to pressure/harass etc. Not really, I'm just a Master league dude playing on my bro's bronze acc. lol | ||
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
On October 06 2011 08:31 submit wrote: Not really, I'm just a Master league dude playing on my bro's bronze acc. lol You may be trolling, but there could be some value in what you're doing. If you actually play a decent number of games on both a bronze league account and a master league account, it would be interesting to see how your SQ varies. I would say 20 consecutive 1v1 games (resource collection rate > 600) would be sufficient. It has been suggested that an easier opponent should result in a higher SQ. It would be interesting to put that to the test. Of course you could also do the reverse - have a bronze player play on a masters account - but I suspect there would be few willing volunteers for that project!  | ||
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ZalaBlade
United States3 Posts
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habermas
United Kingdom304 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6148/scr1ux.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/948/scr2an.jpg) It uses a CSV file to store the data, so you can open it in Excel if you wish so. You can also create an Excel file and then open it in the app as long as you keep the following format: first row: date, i, u, sq and then following rows with the data. The sq column can be left empty and it will be calculated by the program on the file load. It is kind of a messy code and I've written it under linux, so if you find any major bugs, let me know. Here's a standalone executable with all the dependencies included. Just run sq.exe: http://www.mediafire.com/?t0d504rmt6ma0yc And if you're a developer or if you're suspicious to run random .exe files from the Internet here is the source code: http://www.mediafire.com/?3g9fkth38di21a6 However to run this one you're going to have Python installed on your system, as well as matplotlib and wx python libraries. | ||
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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Marddox
United Kingdom108 Posts
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
On October 08 2011 08:30 habermas wrote: I've had a bit of spare time at work so I created a little app to help keep the track on SQ. I made it mainly for personal use, but I thought you may find it useful. It calculates an average SQ based on the data you give to it and also shows some graphs which you can use to see your progress. + Show Spoiler + It uses a CSV file to store the data, so you can open it in Excel if you wish so. You can also create an Excel file and then open it in the app as long as you keep the following format: first row: date, i, u, sq and then following rows with the data. The sq column can be left empty and it will be calculated by the program on the file load. It is kind of a messy code and I've written it under linux, so if you find any major bugs, let me know. Here's a standalone executable with all the dependencies included. Just run sq.exe: http://www.mediafire.com/?t0d504rmt6ma0yc And if you're a developer or if you're suspicious to run random .exe files from the Internet here is the source code: http://www.mediafire.com/?3g9fkth38di21a6 However to run this one you're going to have Python installed on your system, as well as matplotlib and wx python libraries. This is a great app! I just tried it out for my last week of games, and it's very cool. I'm not sure if the save/load function is working though. I tried entering data, saving, exiting, then re-opening and loading, and it didn't seem to add the previous data. The command window showed this error: + Show Spoiler + Traceback (most recent call last): File "sq.py", line 198, in onOpen File "sq.py", line 177, in readFile File "sq.py", line 154, in setTimeFrame ValueError: min() arg is an empty sequence Am I doing something wrong? | ||
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gengka
Malaysia461 Posts
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DayNNight
Germany13 Posts
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Kwanny
Germany222 Posts
If I were to say it in my words: Theoretically, if you're starting to get overmins while perfectly marcoing with the stuff you got, add more buildings. Buildings are an one time investment. So, in case your income stays at least the same, you'll be able to put future money into units. Else, you might know how much you can support 1 base. Just multiply that times the number of bases, while accounting for tech and upgrades. On a sidenote, Master League, I just had a game, 21 minutes, 79 workers created, 784 unspent to 2004 collection. Gave me an 102.8 SQ. I really had a good feeling that game. I average used to be slightly over 75 like a month ago. After conciously having the SQ in mind, the average of my last 10 games = 84.5. I'm feeling that I'm improving! | ||
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Malazin
Canada3 Posts
In addition, I made an application to track your SQ automatically, a bit like the one posted above. However, if you're on 1920x1080, you can auto-track your SQ simply by taking a screen shot of your stats at the end of the game; no tabbing needed. The UI is shown below: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZxMu4.jpg) The reddit thread with all the info can be found here and the download can be found here | ||
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DarQraven
Netherlands553 Posts
One week ago, I was still Gold. My SQ from that period, averaged over 24 games is 63, which should put me inbetween platinum and diamond. I can't look at the history for season 2 anymore, but I hardly improved my macro lately. In Season 2 I was Silver, and if I had to estimate, my SQ would have been just below the plat level. (I checked unspent resources and income rate then, as well, just divided one by the other to get an estimate of how well I did). It's anecdotal, sure, but it does show that there is slightly more to getting better at the game than straight macro. | ||
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Sampro
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. Gotta work on that ! Great post whatthefat keep the good work ! | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2582 Posts
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