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MegaBUD
Canada179 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:20 Basique wrote: Every other games offers free changes ! Changing a name in a database is not hard AT ALL. How can you even defend this ? 1) Blizzard is slow to implement name change, 2) I'd like name change before the next three years. 3) Currently, name change costs $60 (for a new account) Blizzard will definitely not implement multiple free name changes (say, 1 per season), since if they were going to they would have done so when they implemented the first free name change. When someone asks for a $10 paid name change service, they're arguing for reducing the price of name change by $50. Blizzard simply will not give out additional free name changes. So our options are: Pay $60 for new accounts all the time, or argue for a cheaper, paid name change service. I chose the latter. | ||
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MintBerryC
United States12 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:16 PET wrote: Again. WHY isn't it normal to PAY for a service? Why do you presume this should be free? it's a service. You should pay for a service. Changing your name it's not something you should be doing every day anyway. It's a thing you should only want and have to do once in a while. I think if you REALLY need that name change you can get 10 bucks from your pocket and pay for it. If not... just don't change your damn name. Simple as that. Making this FREE will only allow people to abuse it. I remember when the Free Change was implemented. I got like 10 people on my list who I didn't even know who the hell they were. I had to ask each one of them. EDIT: When you go with your car to the service that puts AIR into your wheels... YOU PAY for that. It's not free even that he is pumping air. List can go on and on... There's no reason why a database query with 0 marginal cost should require a $10 fee, it's free to change your nickname in almost all other games. On a side note, it is often free to fill your tires with air. It is free at virtually all Swedish gas stations for example. | ||
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
It has existed for nearly every other video game in existence...and to PET if you don't like that your friends are changing names, then ask you friends to stop or tell you in advance...the logic there shouldn't be "force everyone to pay money". If people are changing names too often and its having some negative effects, then limit the number of name changes to once every two months or so. But this whole scheme is nonsensical. Reminds me of Blizzard's decision to force people to show their real names on the battle.net forums...hopefully this is just a remainder of their bad decisions phase. | ||
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eRoN_
91 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:01 Melchior wrote: Basically, at this point people will take what they can get from Blizzard. Plus, I think it's been mentioned that WoW has $10 name changes (I think? I don't actually play) so it's more of a "if you could do it for that game you made, why not this one?" thing. People shouldn't just let blizzard, or any company for that matter, walk all over them though because they want it bad. Having to pay for a name change when they limit you to 1 account is totally unacceptable. The fact people support this stuff really pisses me off. £10 for a service that can be done automatically by a computer, yea ok thats reasonable guys.... But i guess its mostly down to kids with too much money these days. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:28 MintBerryC wrote: There's no reason why a database query with 0 marginal cost should require a $10 fee, it's free to change your nickname in almost all other games. On a side note, it is often free to fill your tires with air. It is free at virtually all Swedish gas stations for example. There's a wonderful reason to force people to pay for name changes - it filters out all the trolls with bad intentions and forces you to pony up if you want it. It doesn't have to be much, just a nominal amount will do the trick. Heck, $2-3 at least forces someone to have a credit cards (what I think the filter should be). | ||
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PET
Romania430 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:29 radscorpion9 wrote: Agreed with Basique...there is no real defense for forcing people to pay money to change their name, one of the most basic of functions that probably takes less processing power than to open a chat window in SC2 and trying to initiate a conversation with the silent 20 people who are usually in general chat. It has existed for nearly every other video game in existence...and to PET if you don't like that your friends are changing names, then ask you friends to stop or tell you in advance...the logic there shouldn't be "force everyone to pay money". If people are changing names too often and its having some negative effects, then limit the number of name changes to once every two months or so. But this whole scheme is nonsensical. Reminds me of Blizzard's decision to force people to show their real names on the battle.net forums...hopefully this is just a remainder of their bad decisions phase. They are not forcing you to pay any money since they are not forcing you to change your name. Charging for playing games, charging to login now that would be absurd. But name change is not something you should be doing on regular basis and such it's ok for it to cost something. Again, the cost is the only way to stop people abusing the system. The other way would be to limit the name change to X months, but that can do more harm. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:29 eRoN_ wrote: People shouldn't just let blizzard, or any company for that matter, walk all over them though because they want it bad. Having to pay for a name change when they limit you to 1 account is totally unacceptable. The fact people support this stuff really pisses me off. £10 for a service that can be done automatically by a computer, yea ok thats reasonable guys.... But i guess its mostly down to kids with too much money these days. That's a fair point, and I think there's a lot of truth to it. However, currently the marginal cost of selling an additional copy of Sc2 for blizzard is about 30-40 cents. Furthermore, they've already covered the fix costs related to developing the game. This doesn't mean I think they should charge 30-40 cents for the game though. If Blizzard offered a free name change every season, I'd vastly prefer that. They won't, though-- so I'm gonna be realistic and ask for the option to change by name for $10 rather than the $60 it currently costs for a new account. | ||
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MintBerryC
United States12 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:31 0neder wrote: There's a wonderful reason to force people to pay for name changes - it filters out all the trolls with bad intentions and forces you to pony up if you want it. It doesn't have to be much, just a nominal amount will do the trick. Heck, $2-3 at least forces someone to have a credit cards (what I think the filter should be). That would only really be a problem at the highest levels - a valid point though. I think one change per season is a better fix. | ||
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OpTiKcoyote
United States60 Posts
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PET
Romania430 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:37 MintBerryC wrote: That would only really be a problem at the highest levels - a valid point though. I think one change per season is a better fix. Why limit someone with TIME when you can limit them with MONEY? Let's say, you are a PRO gamer. You join a team. You change your name. Then something happens and you leave your team for another after 1 month. Now you have to wait 2 months. You have the money, but you can't. Time limit it's wore than money limit. After all SC2 servers cost money. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:37 MintBerryC wrote: That would only really be a problem at the highest levels - a valid point though. I think one change per season is a better fix. Yeah, I'd consider "1 free name change per season" to be ideal. If season get longer, I'm cool with "1 free name change per 3 months" as well-- this would allow people to more easily move between clans, etc. Actually just having a clan tag system like S2 has for HoN or Blizzard had for War3 would be awesome too. OR BOTH. Failing that I would settle for paid name change. And I think realistically that's what will happen. | ||
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:44 GohgamX wrote: If the fee to change your name is reasonable its not that absurd. Having no name change feature means having to purchase a new account to change your name o_O Don't hate on Blizzard hate on your ability to select names To be fair to my debating adversaries, they're arguing for name selection features not because they want to change their name from "herpderp123" to "puddinghead", but because some GM player or professional player wants to change teams, and needs to change their name. sPsBlade, which some of you may know as Blade5555555fivefivefive, isn't even in sPs any more, but because he used his free name change to add the sPs tag, he's stuck with it. This is more for them than the "herpderp123" to "puddinghead" changes. | ||
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MintBerryC
United States12 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:43 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah, I'd consider "1 free name change per season" to be ideal. If season get longer, I'm cool with "1 free name change per 3 months" as well-- this would allow people to more easily move between clans, etc. Actually just having a clan tag system like S2 has for HoN or Blizzard had for War3 would be awesome too. OR BOTH. Failing that I would settle for paid name change. And I think realistically that's what will happen. I agree with all of this. I also think that I've heard that clan tag system will be implemented blizzard-soon. | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
You are already granted with a 1 name change for free, and it runs fully automatically. Shouldn't it be an easy as fuck task to change the variable from 1 free, to 50, or to 1 per week, 1 per season, or what ever? WHY should we PAY for such a trivial, automated task? WHY should it be ok for Blizzard to charge anything? That's ridiculous. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
Whatever happened to companies showing their loyal fans some gratitude instead of trying to screw them over? | ||
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Asprobouboulis
Greece42 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:51 Elefanto wrote: Can someone explain to me why they are in the need to program a name changing service when it already exists? You are already granted with a 1 name change for free, and it runs fully automatically. Shouldn't it be an easy as fuck task to change the variable from 1 free, to 50, or to 1 per week, 1 per season, or what ever? WHY should we PAY for such a trivial, automated task? WHY should it be ok for Blizzard to charge anything? That's ridiculous. This pretty much. But the guy that said that its a way to filter trolls and such is also correct. IMHO u can have a free name change for lets say every 1-2 months and if u want to change again in that period u have to pay a small fee.Having to pay 10$+ for a freaking name change that costs the company nothing at all to do is absurd and WE as customers shouldnt let this pass. My 2 cents . | ||
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Rubber
United States150 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On September 14 2011 03:08 Rubber wrote: I'd really prefer if they implemented the ability to watch replays with other players before they implemented free name changes, although I understand the latter change probably be much easier to add. I'm sure it's easier to make free name changes, given that they have the functionality already built into their system, and have voluntarily decided to limit it to 1 change. | ||
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